season of Fluttershy's Character development!

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But Friends is a sitcom, it's not supposed to have incredible character development, it's a comedy show. And they aren't "Goody two shoes" They still have flawed moments. The other mane 5 aren't perfect either, I don't know if we're watching the same show, but Dash still acts like an obnoxious airhead, and Rarity still acts over the top quite a bit. This is a show that needs the characters to grow. Whether you like it or not, and the first season is definitely the weakest, say what you want about "charm", characterization was pretty weird sometimes, and the show was finding it's footing, and the writing was definitely sloppy and some episodes were all over the place.

I don't know about you but everything usually fell into place with season 1. Other seasons it just feels rushed and there seems to be a lot of things missing in them. I can't see the same personalities the mane six had before, this could be because they don't focus on them to get a whole episode out of it or whatever reason. Friends actually does have character development but characters change from having flaws to having different new flaws when they make a change in personality.

 

My Little Pony isn't entirely like anime with extensive character development either it's a very "filler" like show. Lighthearted and something where you don't have to follow from A to Z.

Edited May 26, 2015 by cidershield

[Dark Qiviut 22,582]

 

 

Fluttershy's been developing ever since season 1. Take Hurricane Fluttershy and Keep Calm and Flutter On as examples.

Although Keep Calm showed 'Shy grow, it's not the best example due to horrible implications. The problem there is how Fluttershy states the moral: the implications that she only became Discord's lone friend to be her and Celestia's pawn. It proves what happens if you take 'Shy's growth way too far and make her look cold and evil instead. Season five is the very first time we see Fluttershy's growth taken advantage without such implications (ones we don't immediately see, anyway).

[Buck Testa 5,505]

I'm fine with ss5 fluttershy. She isnt that timid pony that we saw in ss1 anymore, good job writers. However, i still love the old fluttershy ; ( . Hope her shyness is still there cuz that make i like her in 1st place. To me," Character over-developing " results losing character's charm...

I really don't see where her charm is gone though, I'm loving her characterization this season

Also props for the Umineko name and profile pic X3 

 

 

The massive drop in Fluttershy's popularity does show that the change in her personality is not positive. She was a lot more adorable and funny before, now not so much.

 

Also need to point out Fluttershy isn't the only one that isn't the same as before. Such as the absence of Twilight's adorkable nature and how she panics way too much (some of it is salvaged just a bit in Griffonstone but still on average she has become a flat character), Rainbow Dash's obnoxious self-worshipping and competitive nature is gone or severely weakened (this was who she was and shouldn't have changed), Rarity no longer has her drama queen attacks or wears ridiculous clothing for inappropriate circumstances, Spike has lost a lot of his sarcasm and his naivety or it's just not highlighted or shown anymore. Hopefully in future episodes where a few ponies make an adventure it's possible to see these personalities rekindle but otherwise... Season 1 was the best.

There's a massive drop in her popularity? Why? She's been fantastic this season, they all have. 

 

Season 1 is one of my least favorite seasons apart from season 3 (cause pacing). I'm the kind of person that values character development and progression, and the show clearly values this as well as all the characters have made great strides on improving who they are. If they would of just stagnated and stayed with the status quo the whole time I would of been bored with the show after awhile, because there is only so much you can do when you don't develop a character. 

 

I really don't understand the hate on character development, its entirely alien to me. 

[Celli 4,348]

I don't know about you but everything usually fell into place with season 1. Other seasons it just feels rushed and there seems to be a lot of things missing in them. I can't see the same personalities the mane six had before, this could be because they don't focus on them to get a whole episode out of it or whatever reason. Friends actually does have character development but characters change from having flaws to having different new flaws when they make a change in personality.

I'm guessing you're one of those "The show was better with Faust" fans. Let me just say that the show is better off without her.  And I stand by what I said about season 1. The writing was sloppier, and clearly the writers hadn't really gotten the mane 6 down yet, also I'd argue that season 1 and 2 were more rushed, not the current ones. And you can't really compare Friends to FiM, they're entirely different types of shows, so your logic makes no sense. 

 

My Little Pony isn't entirely like anime with extensive character development either it's a very "filler" like show. Lighthearted and something where you don't have to follow from A to Z.

I'd argue against that. There is substance to this show, it's not some "filler show" It has great storytelling and character progression. Friends, on the other hand, while it may have some character development, is still just a simple show for laughs, And if you don't like good writing and substance, this show clearly isn't meant for you.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Celli

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I'm guessing you're one of those "The show was better with Faust" fans. Let me just say that the show is better off without her.  And I stand by what I said about season 1. The writing was sloppier, and clearly the writers hadn't really gotten the mane 6 down yet, also I'd argue that season 1 and 2 were more rushed, not the current ones. And you can't really compare Friends to FiM, they're entirely different types of shows, so your logic makes no sense. 

 

I'd argue against that. There is substance to this show, it's not some "filler show" It has great storytelling and character progression. Friends, on the other hand, while it may have some character development, is still just a simple show for laughs, And if you don't like good writing and substance, this show clearly isn't meant for you.

Having character development alone doesn't mean it has good writing and substance.

 

And yes the show was better with Faust. She's the one that made it after all.

Edited May 26, 2015 by cidershield

[Celli 4,348]

Having character development alone doesn't mean it has good writing and substance.

 

And yes the show was better with Faust. She's the one that made it after all.

Except for the fact that the show does have much better writing and substance.

Also, Faust was sloppy, and season one was incredibly weak. And being the one who made it doesn't mean it's automatically better. 

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Except for the fact that the show does have much better writing and substance.

Also, Faust was sloppy, and season one was incredibly weak. And being the one who made it doesn't mean it's automatically better. 

Actually without Faust the show wouldn't exist so there wouldn't be a better or less moment of the show, but having the show exist is better than zero.

 

It being sloppy and the writing being better now is your opinion. I disagree and say the first season the one that created the Brony fandom is the best, the writing and display of characterization far exceeded any other seasons and hasn't been outdone yet.

Edited May 26, 2015 by cidershield

[Celli 4,348]

Actually without Faust the show wouldn't exist so there wouldn't be a better or less moment of the show, but having the show exist is better than zero.

 

It being sloppy and the writing being better now is your opinion. I disagree and say the first season the one that created the Brony fandom is the best, the writing and display of characterization far exceeded any other seasons and hasn't been outdone yet.

Again, the fact that Faust made it doesn't mean it was better off. And it's not my opinion, ask a lot of people and they'll say season 1 was the worst objectively. Each season has outdone the last, it's not negotiable. But it's clear I can't convince you otherwise when it's clear what the real answer is, so I'll agree to disagree. 

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Again, the fact that Faust made it doesn't mean it was better off. And it's not my opinion, ask a lot of people and they'll say season 1 was the worst objectively. Each season has outdone the last, it's not negotiable. But it's clear I can't convince you otherwise when it's clear what the real answer is, so I'll agree to disagree. 

Actually without Faust the show wouldn't exist so there wouldn't be a better or less moment of the show, but having the show exist is better than zero.

 

It being sloppy and the writing being better now is your opinion. I disagree and say the first season the one that created the Brony fandom is the best, the writing and display of characterization far exceeded any other seasons and hasn't been outdone yet.

 

If you caught onto what that means it means the writing in MLP was so good that people that didn't even know My Little Pony exist suddenly like the show because of Season 1. Now up to Season 2 it keeps it's glamor (probably because Lauren Faust was still involved somewhat). Any other season that comes after seems to use the same gag from Season 1 and 2 which gets old fast.

[Celli 4,348]

Actually without Faust the show wouldn't exist so there wouldn't be a better or less moment of the show, but having the show exist is better than zero.

 

It being sloppy and the writing being better now is your opinion. I disagree and say the first season the one that created the Brony fandom is the best, the writing and display of characterization far exceeded any other seasons and hasn't been outdone yet.

 

If you caught onto what that means it means the writing in MLP was so good that people that didn't even know My Little Pony exist suddenly like the show because of Season 1. Now up to Season 2 it keeps it's glamor (probably because Lauren Faust was still involved somewhat). Any other season that comes after seems to use the same gag from Season 1 and 2 which gets old fast.

I just answered your question and I said I'm done arguing with you. 

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I just answered your question and I said I'm done arguing with you. 

We can go on and on and it'll be the same thing.

 

Actually without Faust the show wouldn't exist so there wouldn't be a better or less moment of the show, but having the show exist is better than zero.

 

It being sloppy and the writing being better now is your opinion. I disagree and say the first season the one that created the Brony fandom is the best, the writing and display of characterization far exceeded any other seasons and hasn't been outdone yet

[Buck Testa 5,505]

 

 

And yes the show was better with Faust. She's the one that made it after all.

 

 

I'm going to drop a truth bomb on you. 

 

Things rarely ever stay to their original creators intent, ever. Case and point this is a picture of the original batman created by Bob Kane, the guy who came up with the idea for Bats in the first place

 

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compare that to the myriad of versions and stories of batman throughout the decades and it really pales in comparison. I'm grateful it was there to start the ball rolling, but that doesn't mean its automatically the best. 

 

Bob made the idea, but its the writers who came after who made the character truly great, who developed him into the true icon he is today. 

 

Faust made the idea for the show, but its the writers that came after that evolved it into what it is today. If you want to be stuck with the original recipe season 1, that's your thing I guess, but that does not mean that every subsequent season is bad, it just means its just not exactly how you want it anymore. 

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

 

I really don't see where her charm is gone though, I'm loving her characterization this season

Also props for the Umineko name and profile pic X3

I just miss the old Flutterbitch ... wait ... Do i tell you "putting your hoof down" my favorite... :0 

Thanks, Umineko is my only best series that i ever have :''>. 

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I just answered your question and I said I'm done arguing with you.

 

Ok two questions.

 

1. What do you mean sloppy specifically?

 

2. And if it was sloppy writing why is it people still liked it?

[Buck Testa 5,505]

I just miss the old Flutterbitch ... wait ... Do i tell you "putting your hoof down" my favorite... :0 

Thanks, Umineko is my only best series that i ever have :''>. 

Yay! someone else that liked putting your hoof down! (I thought I was the only one lol) 

 

You could probably tell with my profile pic that I like it too X3

 

Flutters still has it in her, she's probably going to direct it at bad ponies though. 

[Sidral Mundet 1,666]

 

Although Keep Calm showed 'Shy grow, it's not the best example due to horrible implications. The problem there is how Fluttershy states the moral: the implications that she only became Discord's lone friend to be her and Celestia's pawn. It proves what happens if you take 'Shy's growth way too far and make her look cold and evil instead. Season five is the very first time we see Fluttershy's growth taken advantage without such implications (ones we don't immediately see, anyway).

Wow we do not see eye to eye on this episode at all.  I think Fluttershy was at her best.  She was kind and understanding, but to a point, which made her very strong in this episode IMO as well as still having the True Good alignment.  I can understand where you're getting your point from though, I just don't see it that way. 

 

Yay! someone else that liked putting your hoof down! (I thought I was the only one lol) 

 

You could probably tell with my profile pic that I like it too X3

Flutters still has it in her, she's probably going to direct it at bad ponies though. 

 

I like Putting Your Hoof Down as well, though I do like other Fluttershy episode more.  And she still does have her anger, she just knows how to control it. 

[RarityFan01 2,444]

Season 1: Twilight 

Season 2: Applejack 

Season 3: Rainbow Dash

Season 4: Rarity

Season 5: Fluttershy

 

Introduction of the characters:

1. Twilight

2. Applejack

3. Rainbow Dash 

4. Rarity 

5. Fluttershy

6. Pinkie Pie

 

So I would think this is Fluttershy's time to shine. 

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Season 1: Twilight 

Season 2: Applejack 

Season 3: Rainbow Dash

Season 4: Rarity

Season 5: Fluttershy

 

Introduction of the characters:

1. Twilight

2. Applejack

3. Rainbow Dash 

4. Rarity 

5. Fluttershy

6. Pinkie Pie

 

So I would think this is Fluttershy's time to shine. 

Whoa that's pretty sweet

Do you have examples on how this pattern works, like did Aj get more episodes and development in season two than others? 

And would that mean Pinkie gets Season 6?! 

[RarityFan01 2,444]

Whoa that's pretty sweet

Do you have examples on how this pattern works, like did Aj get more episodes and development in season two than others? 

And would that mean Pinkie gets Season 6?! 

Season 1 was definitely Twilight. She was the only one who had to learn lessons to write to Princess Celestia. 

 

For Season 2, all the characters were still being developed, but... I don't know why. She didn't exactly get many episodes in season 2, but she developed a lot.. We see a lot of her in Luna Eclipsed, Sister Hooves Social, Cutie Pox is about her element, We see her develop in the last Roundup (though most bronies probably don't remember Applejack in that episode...) We also see a not so humble side of Applejack in Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. So season 2 shows that Applejack isn't a one dimensional character. A lot of the episodes did revolve around honesty, though. 

 

Season 3: Sleepless in Ponyville, Wonderbolt's Academy, both develop Rainbow Dash. It was the shortest season, but it was her best season. I can't give much examples because the season is too short. 

 

Season 4: Rarity had several episodes to herself as well as episodes that show her character. In Princess Twilight Sparkle, she is unfazed when she sees the evil vines at first. Which is strange. But we see Rarity's generosity and artistic side from episode 3, Castle Mania, where she tries to repair the tapestry. No, she wasn't doing it for her own greed like certain art work implies. In Power Ponies, Rarity tries to cheer Spike up. Though that's normal for her... so nevermind... Rarity Takes Manehattan, Simple Ways, Filly Vanilli, and Inspiration Manifestation all show a lot of Rarity's character. (Even though FIlly Vanilli isn't really a Rarity episode, we learn more about her.) Besides, there's a generosity undertone in the season, especially on the key episodes. 

 

Seaosn 5: So far, Fluttershy is developing as a character. We are still early in the season, but I'm confident that it is her season. 

 

Season 6: I expect it to be the funniest and craziest season, but we have to wait. 

 

Maybe Seasons 7-9 develop each of the CMC? (They said there's going to be at least 9 seasons.)

 

Honestly, I don't know how a TV show can run out of ideas of developing characters. I mean if we can still learn, then why can't fictional characters? Maybe they could try new stuff, there's still a lot to learn about them. They are still young, and they still have a lot to learn. Though maybe coming up with brilliant ideas when they seem impossible is a gift only a few possess, and I'm one of the few. I don't know. But I don't think the characters will ever truly be fully developed... Sorry about that. 

[AmberDust 1,118]

It's good that she's learning to stand up to others, but she lacks a certain tact and understanding of others, and its really working against her. :/

Her actions/words in Make new Friends but Keep Discord and in Tanks For The Memories had some dire consequences because she didn't bother explaining herself the first time around and just left people to stew in their own negative emotions with her new thats-just-how-it-is attitude. I don't really like it. It's as though she's completely abandoned the idea of preserving ponies' emotions. :/ She's become the poster pony for ignorance among the mane six, which bothers me. I used to like her a lot better before this season.

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

Ok two questions.

 

1. What do you mean sloppy specifically?

 

2. And if it was sloppy writing why is it people still liked it?

 

None of us our saying that Season 1 was bad however compared to Season 2, 3, 4 and 5 if it keeps going the way it's going, Season  is definitely the weakest.

 

Recently I saw a comment that best explained why this is.

 

 

Luaren Faust routinely seemed to have no idea what she was doing. Bronydom started mid season 1 and after it finished. It continued to climb during the hiatus between the first two seasons and peaked somewhere during season 2. The more you visit the older portions of the fandom the more you have views distorted by nostalgia and stupid visions of what the show might be had Faust not left. I for one am actually glad she is gone, or at least not in the driver's seat anymore.

 

When you examine season 1 both critically, and with the common criticisms leveled at the previous two seasons in mind, you realize that many of the issues actually started there.

 

> FiM is the worst two parter for rushed plot and contrivance after contrivance. Destiny was used here as heavy handed subtext, it was first introduced here, yet Meghan and Larson get blamed for Twilicorn and destiny as a cheap storytelling device, yet Lauren started it herself.

> The Ticket Master had AJ utter one of worst lines in the show. Talking to Spike, she said, "Ain't that just like a boy, can't handle the least bit of sentiment" after noticing Spike react a certain way. This, coming from an admitted feminist, looked really, really poor. It's one of the only, if not the only time gender is brought up in such a direct way. Faust is supposed to be subverting these tropes, right? Isn't that one of the main points of the damn show? She co-wrote this, and here we have AJ reinforcing gender stereotypes. What the actual fuck?

> Bird in the Hoof and Applebuck Season both slip into cringe humour territory, you know, the stuff that is reviled in current show's considered unwatchable like Spongebob. The show really hasn't had other episodes like that since.

> Boast Busters screwed up so much they turned the cast that was present into hecklers, some of the most rude and disgusting things to do in public. In doing so they helped create an entire cult following for Trixie, the planned antagonist of that episode. In the end the ponies run her out of town, where is that love and tolerance i keep hearing about? AJ says that "Magic is who you are, Twilight." The fuck, isn't that who Trixie is too? Just a different type of magic? Seriously, the ponies were at their most unlikable here, Mare Do Well doesn't even come close.

> Look before you Sleep had AJ and Rarity acting more like their younger sisters than reasonable adults. Twilight was shown to be an idiot, because reasons.

> Bridle Gossip portrayed Pinkie as straight up asshole who used fear mongering to whip the ponies into a frenzy against poor Zecora. Pinkie contributed to the problem here, and not just in an innocent way, this runs contrary to her character. What happened to the pony who wanted to be everyone's friend? Zecora's hut is filled with trite borderline offensive tribal imagery. It wasn't enough that Zecora's design is enough of a disparity, nope, we gotta plaster the place with all kinds of stupid stuff. Because Faust lacks subtlety. The other thing this screws up is the moral. Twilight is resolute in not judging a book by it's cover through the episode, right until the end when she drops her convictions and believes Zecora is bad. She lost all credibility. The moral about not judging a book by it's cover, one closely tied to racism and bigotry, and fuck it up. They should not fuck up a moral that serious. 

> Feeling Pinkie Keen delivered a god awful moral of "sometimes you just gotta believe things!1!!" It came with an unintended secondary moral, one that put science and religion at odds. Faust said that was unintended, so ignorance is to blame, which isn't good at all.

> The Show Stoppers started off by showing everyone the CMC's talents, only to have them be completely oblivious to set them up crusading. Which might be the biggest contrivance in the show, ever.

> Over a Barrel lacked the same subtlety as Bridle Gossip with the Indian attire of the Buffalo. Pinkie was an idiot, and contributed to multiple problems in this episode, similar to how people got mad at her in Filli Vanilli.

> Owl's Well that Ends Well has the mane 6 praising an animal with equal to or greater praise than what they gave Spike at the beginning of the episode. An owl they just met, and they're doing that? Twilight berates Spike for the way he feels. That complaint about Spike being abused? It started right here, and it's arguably the worst case of it.

 

That's almost thirteen episodes that dropped the ball in serious ways enough to ruin episodes for a lot of people, including myself. Don't get me wrong, the greats in this season were pretty great, but still, that's almost half the entire season. The length of season 3. Pinkie being a moron and trouble starter, Spike being abused, Twilight being shoehorned into lots of episodes. Some of these things persist into the latter seasons, it's true. I'm not going to ignore that or excuse it. But I'm also not going to pretend season 1 was some golden goose that could do no wrong because Faust. For the above reasons, it's my least favorite season. The show has improved on some of these things, especially the delivery of it's morals. The people who think the latter seasons are complete trash often cite that without Lauren's guidance, they don't know what they're doing. That McCarthy doesn't know how to run the show. To them I say fine, fair enough. But as I've shown, many of the issues in the recent seasons are still in season 1, and they started there. And Season 1 had Faust, so what's it's excuse?"

 

Now I don't agree with what this guy said 100% but for the most part he is on the ball.

 

I prefer how things have been going, I like how Twilight, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash and the others have developed. If they had just stayed the same throughout the shows run, it would have been boring. And seeing characters learn lessons just to forget them would just simply be annoying. With Fluttershy, I cannot describe how many times I've seen people complain that as soon as she learned a lesson (be more assertive) she would just immediately forget. Character development is essential to a show and without it the show would have fallen victim to seasonal rot a lot sooner.

[ManaMinori 4,149]

I'm not a fan of Fluttershy, but I'd really like so see her underlying anger/ rage issues tackled, now that she's becoming more assertive and coming out her shell. She acts all sweet and innocent, but underneath,  that pony's got some deeper lying anger issues she needs checked. Seriously. Her little temper tantrums in "Best Night ever", "Power Ponies", and "Putting your hoof down" are enough proof of that, I think.

[cider float 2,539]

None of us our saying that Season 1 was bad however compared to Season 2, 3, 4 and 5 if it keeps going the way it's going, Season is definitely the weakest.

 

Recently I saw a comment that best explained why this is.

 

 

 

Now I don't agree with what this guy said 100% but for the most part he is on the ball.

 

I prefer how things have been going, I like how Twilight, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash and the others have developed. If they had just stayed the same throughout the shows run, it would have been boring. And seeing characters learn lessons just to forget them would just simply be annoying. With Fluttershy, I cannot describe how many times I've seen people complain that as soon as she learned a lesson (be more assertive) she would just immediately forget. Character development is essential to a show and without it the show would have fallen victim to seasonal rot a lot sooner.

I skimmed it but I would appreciate it if you stated why it was sloppy. So from the gist of what this person was writing his feelings were hurt when the characters were somewhat harrassed and no character was morally perfect. And you are saying the term Mary Sue is being misused on the Discord is the Real Mary Sue thread. Give me a break. By your agreement to what the poster who said Mary Sues are ideal charactets you would of preferred if all the characters were ideal Mary Sues at Season 1 and that also goes against your love for character development. If the characters did not have flawed personalities how would they develop if they are ideal Mary Sues you wanted them to be in season 1?

 

Anyway whoever's quote that is more in the thought of someone that thought good writing involves characters that are unrealistically nice and politically correct 100% of the time. Within your definition of being a Mary Sue.

 

If Lauren Faust did write it the way that guy (one who made that post) wanted than we would see G3.5-2 just as how Season 3 and above is turning out like. Okay maybe not that bad maybe G1-2 but you get the picture with this homogenization.

Edited May 27, 2015 by cidershield

[The Awesome One 1,315]

She has come out of her shell a lot thanks to hanging out with her friends who are far more out-going than her and it kind of rubbed off on Fluttershy. Good for her!

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

I skimmed it but I would appreciate it if you stated why it was sloppy. So from the gist of what this person was writing his feelings were hurt when the characters were somewhat harrassed and no character was morally perfect.

 

1) So basically, you have no argument to refute any of his claims and most likely can't, so you're just going to make up something on the spot and say "Oh his feelings are just hurt because blah blah blah".

 

Sir, if you don't do anything to refute his arguments any statements you make against him are invalid.

 

2) There's a difference between character flaws and being written badly.

 

Let me give you an example

 

Twilight having anxiety issues and Fluttershy being shy is a character flaw. And they've been slowly overcoming those flaws over time by learning lessons that help them overcome that flaw.

 

Rarity and Applejack bickering like 5 year olds for the entire night at Twilight's House, that's just being very childish and Twilight not noticing it and going "hmmm...this is not in the book?" is just being an idiot.

 

The Mane Six showing up at Trixie's Magic show and then berating her and eventually driving her out of town for DOING HER JOB (being and entertainer) is just being an asshole and it's written badly for portraying the Mane 6 as the "good guys" when they were just antagonistic as all hell.

 

 

 

 And you are saying the term Mary Sue is being misused on the Discord is the Real Mary Sue thread. Give me a break. By your agreement to what the poster who said Mary Sues are ideal charactets you would of preferred if all the characters were ideal Mary Sues at Season 1 and that also goes against your love for character development. If the characters did not have flawed personalities how would they develop if they are ideal Mary Sues you wanted them to be in season 1?

Do refrain from making up any statements. A Mary Sue is a character who is unrealistically perfect in every way possible. The person I quoted NEVER said that Mary Sues are ideal characters. But if you are referring to my post in the Discord thread where I mentioned Jerry Peet then you obviously didn't read my post right. I said that I, VERY RELUCTANTLY, agree that the term Mary Sue has become fancy internet speak for "character I don't like." and that's the only thing bout his video that agree with, the rest of the video is full of flawed logic and generalized insulting statements which I heavily disagree with. For example he believes there is no such thing as a Mary Sue, I on the other hand believe there is such a thing as a Mary Sue just the term is being misused.

 

 

 

 

Anyway whoever's quote that is more in the thought of someone that thought good writing involves characters that are unrealistically nice and politically correct 100% of the time. Within your definition of being a Mary Sue.If Lauren Faust did write it the way that guy (one who made that post) wanted than we would see G3.5-2 just as how Season 3 and above is turning out like. Okay maybe not that bad maybe G1-2 but you get the picture with this homogenization.

 

Yep, you're definitely making up BS and haven't seen any of the other gens.

 

For starters Gen 1 had Villains attacking them on a regular daily basis with plenty of 80's cheese. FiM

 

Gen 1.5 was pretty much real life just with Ponies. FiM has plenty of fantasy elements to them and don't have the 

 

There was no cartoon for G2. Please do some research before making an argument.

 

Gen 3 and 3.5 was just plotless garbage that lacked conflict, the driving element of a story. FiM throughout all seasons had conflict, a problem to solve, developed characters, lessons learned so on and so forth.

Edited May 27, 2015 by The Coffee Pony