Guest June 28, 2015 Share June 28, 2015 Hit the nail on the head on that... nice example there because that makes perfect sense. I am glad that the writers did this actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 June 28, 2015 Share June 28, 2015 (edited) Oh now we're getting to insults now. How lower can we go? So tell me is Season 5 just another MLP season or is it just writer jerk-circling now? Slice of Life was not a MLP episode to me and now you're making this episode that I had no thought of being such a way turn out like it is another writer input. Because if that's the case this show is really hitting rock bottom now. Slice of Life says desperation big time. Now this new one says "Waaah." I guess Princess Spike would also be about how if writers (the princesses) gave the critics or unpleasant YAKs the reins to their show those Princess Spikes can do better but not really eh? Look the writers are selling their product and there's no need for me to clean and massage their feet and coo them. You can be whatever you want to be. If you like the episode okay, but if there are parts of it you don't like don't be afraid to speak out. I think we all just need to calm down about a show with pastel coloured horses... I honestly doubt the writers care enough to make an analogy like that, and they just wanted to set up the conflict for the episode. And to say mlp has hit rock bottom.... Have you seen Teen Titans Go? Breadwinners? Modern spongebob or family guy? Even if season 5 was the worst (which no one can say for sure since it isn't even half over yet, and it has had good episodes like Bloom and Gloom, Grifftonstone and Discord) it is still in the top tier of cartoons because it still isn't BAD by any means... You're honestly thinking into this way too deeply, it's a kids show and the writers have better things to do with their time. Episode 100 was a thank you, a message to the fans so calm down and just accept it for what it was. If you can't accept just a little bit of fun for the 100th episode anniversary of a beloved series, then you are going about watching the show in a very sad way.... Edited June 28, 2015 by Harshreality 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Piranha 29,499 June 29, 2015 Share June 29, 2015 I think the yaks embosy this trope http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/RuinedFOREVER/WesternAnimation And people, chill the hay out, it's not like FiM is the only show that throw light jabs at it's audience and critics :comeatus: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TakeThatAudience http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TakeThatCritics 4 Sig by Discords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostgage 7,982 June 29, 2015 Share June 29, 2015 Omg that's hilarious. I really hope this is the case xD 1 Signature by Lacerna | You should fill out my Johari Window. All the cool kids are doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truffles 2,033 June 29, 2015 Share June 29, 2015 Part of me wants this to be true, partly because even a diss towards the fans is almost like a form of loving acknowledgement, and partly because I think it's silly when someone complains bitterly about an episode simply because it breaks their headcanon. (OTOH I'm torn because I too have a pet peeve about how they treat Spike, but I digress....) But after also having my mind blown when it was first posted in the episode thread, I started thinking about it and if it really was the case the conclusion of the episode wouldn't have been about the ponies realizing they were wrong but would have instead been the yaks realizing they were the ones who were wrong. But like I said I'm still on the fence. It could be that stating the moral of "don't be so picky" might have been too obvious and now at least they all have plausible deniability. I think it's fine to poke fun at the fans, as long as it is done in a friendly way. If they had painted the fans with a broad brush and said they're all losers with no lives (it's been done in other TV shows....), that would send everyone running for the exits. Being poked at for being picky is pretty benign, and now I've learned something too in that I can look in the mirror when criticizing an episode and ask, "Am I being a pony here or a yak?" Are you a Spike fan? Click on the image above for a compendium of nearly every Spike scene in the show! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,207 June 29, 2015 Share June 29, 2015 Okay, if this ISN'T what the writers intended with this episode, that's what it should have been. It fits so well. The fact that some bronies actually hated Slice of Life makes me want this theory here to be true. I know not everyone is going to like everything, I get that, but I swear some comments that I read about that episode and how the person hated it because of 'too much fanservice' like if someone made me a cake with a picture of a ton of FiM ponies on it and I go 'TOO MUCH PONY, KYOSHI SMASH!' and I proceed to destroy the cake that was given to me as a gift. This kind of anger can apply to many other episodes too. Again, not every episode is going to hit the sweet spot with everyone, but it really seems like some people just want to hate everything in the show after season 3. I like this fandom, I love that it exists, but stuff like that frustrates me so. Makes me feel bad for the writers at times. 1 Redeem me into childhood. Show me myself without a shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,539 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 (edited) I think we all just need to calm down about a show with pastel coloured horses... I honestly doubt the writers care enough to make an analogy like that, and they just wanted to set up the conflict for the episode. And to say mlp has hit rock bottom.... Have you seen Teen Titans Go? Breadwinners? Modern spongebob or family guy? Even if season 5 was the worst (which no one can say for sure since it isn't even half over yet, and it has had good episodes like Bloom and Gloom, Grifftonstone and Discord) it is still in the top tier of cartoons because it still isn't BAD by any means... You're honestly thinking into this way too deeply, it's a kids show and the writers have better things to do with their time. Episode 100 was a thank you, a message to the fans so calm down and just accept it for what it was. If you can't accept just a little bit of fun for the 100th episode anniversary of a beloved series, then you are going about watching the show in a very sad way.... Nope episode 100 was for people that make so much stuff about those background ponies. For the most part I brushed those off because they were annoying but then episode 100 became a background pony episode basically a slap in the face. Internet fanny things should stay in the internet. I bet if they said anything about background ponies being irrelevant and such would get people like you making threads complaining about it for the next 3 years... like when Muffin was temporarily removed from the show. Edited June 30, 2015 by cider float Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jangocoolguy 433 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Interesting theory, but I think it was really just a case of clashing cultures for the sake of conflict. Heck, I there were times I was with the yaks (I hate player pianos too) "It's like I found a piece of myself I didn't even know was missing!" How do you think WE feel?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manic 121 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Nope episode 100 was for people that make so much stuff about those background ponies. For the most part I brushed those off because they were annoying but then episode 100 became a background pony episode basically a slap in the face. Internet fanny things should stay in the internet. I bet if they said anything about background ponies being irrelevant and such would get people like you making threads complaining about it for the next 3 years... like when Muffin was temporarily removed from the show. You realise there probably wouldn't be a season 5 without the internet fandom right? The creators acknowledge and celebrated this with slice of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,539 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 You realise there probably wouldn't be a season 5 without the internet fandom right? The creators acknowledge and celebrated this with slice of life. Like I care if there is a Season 5 or not. If they stop making them then they stop making them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 (edited) This theory makes absolutely no sense. It would be impossible for the production team to re-do an episode of the show so soon after the episode in question had aired. If this were a Season 6 episode, I'd be more likely to believe that this could be the case. But a week and a half after the fact is way too soon for this to be possible. You could argue that episode 100 was deliberately made as fanservice. And that is true. But the difference there is they had an entire YEAR to make that episode. The theory in the first post assumes that at best they had about 10 to 12 days to respond to the fan reaction to 100. It's the Armageddon vs Deep Impact debate. The former doesn't hold a candle to the latter in terms of realism. And even if they were capable of magically doing this, why would they have not done this with other episodes that garnered even worse reactions (like Twilicorn; if ever there was an episode to do this after, that would have been it)? The answer is obvious. Because they never had that intent with the episode. And as such, that wasn't what the episode was meant to be about. Not to mention, after what happened with Destiny, I don't think any production team would want that negative attention. If anything, I'd just as soon take this to be a regular episode of the show. An average episode, but a regular episode nonetheless. Edited June 30, 2015 by SBaby 1 A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manic 121 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Like I care if there is a Season 5 or not. If they stop making them then they stop making them. If you don't care why are you even here? I get that you don't like bg pony focus. Many of us do. What happened to love and tolerance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 Nope episode 100 was for people that make so much stuff about those background ponies. For the most part I brushed those off because they were annoying but then episode 100 became a background pony episode basically a slap in the face. Internet fanny things should stay in the internet. I bet if they said anything about background ponies being irrelevant and such would get people like you making threads complaining about it for the next 3 years... like when Muffin was temporarily removed from the show. But people HAVE done that. M.A Larson has stated multiple times at cons that he originally didnt want to do the episode, but hasbro coaxed him into it. The writers have also said several times that there is a 99% chance that none of these characters will ever return. No one cares about how the episode got made, just that it exists. The only complaining threads thst exist are made by people who HATE the episode, not those that are nitpicking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coffee Pony 1,390 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 (edited) Okay, if this ISN'T what the writers intended with this episode, that's what it should have been. It fits so well. The fact that some bronies actually hated Slice of Life makes me want this theory here to be true. I know not everyone is going to like everything, I get that, but I swear some comments that I read about that episode and how the person hated it because of 'too much fanservice' like if someone made me a cake with a picture of a ton of FiM ponies on it and I go 'TOO MUCH PONY, KYOSHI SMASH!' and I proceed to destroy the cake that was given to me as a gift. This kind of anger can apply to many other episodes too. Again, not every episode is going to hit the sweet spot with everyone, but it really seems like some people just want to hate everything in the show after season 3. I like this fandom, I love that it exists, but stuff like that frustrates me so. Makes me feel bad for the writers at times. I can't say I'm annoyed with the fans who disliked the episodes as everyone has their own opinion and they have the right to dislike it. You're going to please everyone after all. However, I am really annoyed with the ones who try to use this episode as a reason why the show "has gone downhill", It's special, not a regular episode. Specials always go with something outside the regular format. So even if you didn't like the episode you could easily ignore it! And again, I don't take issue with those who prefer Season 1 and 2 (or the Lauren Faust-era seasons if you want to call them that) over the newer seasons, they have the right to their opinion. But I do get bothered by the ones who try to push their opinion that The Faust-Era Seasons are better as fact, lash out at anyone that says otherwise and endlessly complain about the newer seasons. They can complain all they want that Seasons 3, 4 and 5 are inferior all they want but that doesn't and will never make them right. Saying that the Meghan McCarthey-era Seasons (3, 4 and 5) are factually bad is an invalid statement. Edited June 30, 2015 by The Coffee Pony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,539 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 (edited) If you don't care why are you even here? I get that you don't like bg pony focus. Many of us do. What happened to love and tolerance? What does that mean "why am I here?" I'm here because I liked the show to actually care for what it used to been. Not everyone must fall under your reasons to like a show. And please don't bring out love and tolerance... that too is like background ponies, it doesn't represent all bronies. Love and tolerance was mostly used as a slogan built for bronies that go out internet arguing with anti-bronies. I prefer to use the ignore anti-bronies idea. Edited June 30, 2015 by cider float Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 What does that mean "why am I here?" I'm here because I liked the show to actually care for what it used to been. Not everyone must fall under your reasons to like a show. And please don't bring out love and tolerance... that too is like background ponies, it doesn't represent all bronies. What exactly did it use to be like then? Yeah sure the show changed after Lauren left, but the elements are still there. You complain about background ponies, yet season 2 contained the highest amount of derpy overall before season 5. You complain about Hasbro pandering to bronies, when they mentioned bronies BY NAME in a season 1 promo. Currently season 5 seems to paying more attention than ever to the show's beginnings. I mean, they brought Gilda, Cranky, Steven Magnet, Cherry Jubilee and more. I'm sorry but I just don't see where you're coming from. Sure "back them" we had great episodes like Party of One, Lesson Zero and Luna Eclipsed, but we also had the greatest concentration of crap, in the form of Putting your Hoof down, Mare do well, Dragon Quest, Baby Cakes, Boast Busters, A bird in the hoof, the show stoppere and ticket master. It really just seems like nostalgia is talking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,539 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 (edited) What exactly did it use to be like then? Yeah sure the show changed after Lauren left, but the elements are still there. You complain about background ponies, yet season 2 contained the highest amount of derpy overall before season 5. You complain about Hasbro pandering to bronies, when they mentioned bronies BY NAME in a season 1 promo. Currently season 5 seems to paying more attention than ever to the show's beginnings. I mean, they brought Gilda, Cranky, Steven Magnet, Cherry Jubilee and more. I'm sorry but I just don't see where you're coming from. Sure "back them" we had great episodes like Party of One, Lesson Zero and Luna Eclipsed, but we also had the greatest concentration of crap, in the form of Putting your Hoof down, Mare do well, Dragon Quest, Baby Cakes, Boast Busters, A bird in the hoof, the show stoppere and ticket master. It really just seems like nostalgia is talking.... No your own mindset is talking. Muffins was never officially named and that's the way I liked it. That D-word is just another internet thing that I'm glad they kept away and that's the least they gave me in Slice of Life. Background ponies were never officially introduced as the fanon so far until Slice of Life and I preferred it that way. And you speak of nostalgia like it's a bad thing... if the show stayed the way it was before it wouldn't be nostalgia though right? But you know what stay in your illusions like I stay in mine. But I'm done giving you people anything more to make drama over. Go find other critics to have meltdown over. Edited June 30, 2015 by cider float Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 No your own mindset is talking. Muffins was never officially named and that's the way I liked it. That D-word is just another internet thing that I'm glad they kept away and that's the least they gave me in Slice of Life. Background ponies were never officially introduced as the fanon so far until Slice of Life and I preferred it that way. And you speak of nostalgia like it's a bad thing... if the show stayed the way it was before it wouldn't be nostalgia though right? But you know what stay in your illusions like I stay in mine. But I'm done giving you people anything more to make drama over. Go find other critics to have meltdown over. Dude, calm down, we just all like the show. That's why we're here. ALL episodes deserve criticsm, and that is just a fact. Lighten up, we're all in the same fandom, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,890 June 30, 2015 Share June 30, 2015 This topic has started to become more and more toxic with each passing post. Love and tolerate is more a slogan originating from from /b/ or /co/. It is this site's primary tenet. Respect for other opinions isn't just the appropriate approach for internet citizenship, it is one of our rules. I've received more complaints over this topic per page than the typical 'I hate character x' topic. That is saying something. Locking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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