Who do you think is smarter, Twilight Sparkle or Albert Einstein?

[GuyNamedEarl 1,332]

I don't see how you can compare these two

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

 Not as a sentient being. As a drawing or as pixels on a computer screen maybe, but not as a sentient being.

 

 

But what if I imagine a living Einstein, by your logic he begins to exist. Then who is the smartest one?

 

How sentient is a dead man?

 

Now you're finally thinking.  But were you referring to an imaginary still-living Einstein all the while?  Or to the Einstein that once lived in this world and no longer draws breath?  I assumed you and others meant the latter.

Cartoon horses (or anything else) do not magically start existing just because someone deiced to make a drawing of them or write a story about them, that's basic knowledge. What does start existing is the drawing or story and I would say that they are around as smart as some dead guy. 

How well-versed are you in the nature of magic?  I would think it basic knowledge that dead men are less intelligent than anyone living, but this topic has proven me wrong in that regard.

 

Then you're abandoning your claim that Einstein is more intelligent than Twilight Sparkle?  If he is as intelligent as Twilight, he is not more intelligent than she is.

[Ochre_Dust 329]

This is such an internet argument at this point.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

Oh, and by the way:

 

"Imagination is more important than knowledge.  For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."

- Albert Einstein

 

I find the general lack of imagination in this topic disturbing.

This is such an internet argument at this point.

Was it not an argument on the internet from the start? xD

[Ochre_Dust 329]

Oh, and by the way:

 

"Imagination is more important than knowledge.  For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."

- Albert Einstein

 

I find the general lack of imagination in this topic disturbing.

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Was it not an argument on the internet from the start? xD

I refer to internet argument in this case as distinguished by the peculiar feature of all parties concerned quite blatantly talking past one another.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

I refer to internet argument in this case as distinguished by the peculiar feature of all parties concerned quite blatantly talking past one another.

If you talk past the individual with whom you're arguing, you're likelier to reach receptive ears. x3

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

How well-versed are you in the nature of magic?  I would think it basic knowledge that dead men are less intelligent than anyone living, but this topic has proven me wrong in that regard.

 

Then you're abandoning your claim that Einstein is more intelligent than Twilight Sparkle?  If he is as intelligent as Twilight, he is not more intelligent than she is.

I know enough about magic to know that it doesn't exist. I would think it's basic knowledge that cartoon horses doesn't exist but this thread have proven me wrong. 

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

I know enough about magic to know that it doesn't exist. I would think it's basic knowledge that cartoon horses doesn't exist but this thread have proven me wrong. 

How can you know anything about something that doesn't exist?

 

So you admit that you're wrong?

[Ochre_Dust 329]

If you talk past the individual with whom you're arguing, you're likelier to reach receptive ears. x3

Have you read any works by Plato? I think you'd like him.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

How can you know anything about something that doesn't exist?

 

So you admit that you're wrong?

I didn't admit I'm wrong, what I meant was that some people obviously don't know that cartoon horses doesn't exist. 

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

I didn't admit I'm wrong, what I meant was that some people obviously don't know that cartoon horses doesn't exist. 

Who's talking about cartoon horses?  My Little Pony.

 

 

 

Have you read any works by Plato? I think you'd like him.

I have not.  Though perhaps I someday will.

[Gestum 2,493]

 

 

How sentient is a dead man?

 I don't know. That depends on what do you mean by a dead man. Do you mean is corpse or his soul?

 

 

 

How can you know anything about something that doesn't exist?

you can know the fact that it doesn't exist.

[Not Yellow Diamond 925]

I'm gonna say Twilight due to the fact she could learn and do whatever she wants because she's a part of a cartoon. An imaginary world, so her intellectual level is about as bounding as Equestria... so, that should be pretty self explanatory. 

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

 I don't know. That depends on what do you mean by a dead man. Do you mean is corpse or his soul?

 

 

you can know the fact that it doesn't exist.

 

I mean a corpse.  If a soul exists, I suspect it would not be anymore dead when the man dies than it was when the man lived.  So I would not associate it with a dead man at all.

 

And in response to the rest of your reply:

Edited July 9, 2015 by Ziggy and Angelbaby

[Gestum 2,493]

 

 

I mean a corpse.  

 I agree that a corpse isn't a sentinel being. But neither are none existing cartoon ponies. 

 

 

 

And in response to the rest of your reply:

Cartoon ponies doesn't exists and they will never do so. Someone made them up in his/her head. That's a fact.

[Tinkh_ 239]

We don't know how many things Twilight knows about or to what degree she knows them. And Einstein, in his current state, doesn't necessarily know anything. He is as intelligent as a tombstone at the moment.

It was specified absolutely nowhere that we were talking about his current state as a corpse, so I assumed we were talking about Einstein as he was, Lol.

 

They do know about different things, but I think Einstein had more physical experience in the science, life and affairs of his time than twilight does in her time. I'm just assuming that for the most part, her knowledge is based more on facts and studying. I dunno what all she knows either, but what I get from the show is that she uses books.

 

I think they'd have almost equal intellect, just different knowledge.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

It was specified absolutely nowhere that we were talking about his current state as a corpse, so I assumed we were talking about Einstein as he was, Lol.

Einstein is dead.  No matter how intelligent he was in life.  We live in a time in which he is a corpse.  It's curious to me how people in this topic will scoff at magic and talking ponies whilst magically resurrecting a dead man and restoring his former intelligence for the purpose of an inherently silly argument. x3

[null123456 759]

Einstein is dead.  No matter how intelligent he was in life.  We live in a time in which he is a corpse.  It's curious to me how people in this topic will scoff at magic and talking ponies whilst magically resurrecting a dead man and restoring his former intelligence for the purpose of an inherently silly argument. x3

And we also live in a time where pastel colored horses don't exist. By your logic it's basically something that doesn't exist vs something that is dead.

[shy0wl 484]

It depends what you consider "smart"

 

Twilight lives in a world that is much different than that of the human world, where everything is based on magic, whereas in our world that Einstein lived in, things are based on science and religion and art and technology, the list goes on.

 

Twilight is very smart in her field of studies.  Einstein was very smart in his field of studies.  Does Twilight know much about science? Probably not.  Did Einstein know much about magic?  Most likely not.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

And we also live in a time where pastel colored horses don't exist. By your logic it's basically something that doesn't exist vs something that is dead.

If such colorful ponies don't exist, then the television series that's largely devoted to them must be similarly nonexistent.  If MLP:FIM does not exist, then you have never watched it.  If you have never watched this nonexistent television program, you could not be a fan of it.  In which case you would not be a member of this fandom that could not exist because it is founded on nothing.  If you're not a member of said nonexistent fandom (and you couldn't be, as it does not exist), then you probably aren't posting on MLPF; a website accommodating an imaginary fandom founded on a television series no one's seen that features colorful ponies that you claim do not exist.  If you aren't here posting on this website, your post does not exist.  If your post does not exist, you've not actually said anything.  And since I rely upon your post to determine whether or not you exist, I can't be certain that you do.

[Flint Sparklehooves 37]

Well, I suppose Twilight is as smart as the writers want or need her to be.  Einstein certainly didn't have that luxury. 

[null123456 759]

If such colorful ponies don't exist, then the television series that's largely devoted to them must be similarly nonexistent.  If MLP:FIM does not exist, then you have never watched it.  If you have never watched this nonexistent television program, you could not be a fan of it.  In which case you would not be a member of this fandom that could not exist because it is founded on nothing.  If you're not a member of said nonexistent fandom (and you couldn't be, as it does not exist), then you probably aren't posting on MLPF; a website accommodating an imaginary fandom founded on a television series no one's seen that features colorful ponies that you claim do not exist.  If you aren't here posting on this website, your post does not exist.  If your post does not exist, you've not actually said anything.  And since I rely upon your post to determine whether or not you exist, I can't be certain that you do.

My brain is gushing with confusion.

[Kayjin 15]

Twilight because she knows about magic.

[RainbowVortex 1]

If such colorful ponies don't exist, then the television series that's largely devoted to them must be similarly nonexistent.  If MLP:FIM does not exist, then you have never watched it.  If you have never watched this nonexistent television program, you could not be a fan of it.  In which case you would not be a member of this fandom that could not exist because it is founded on nothing.  If you're not a member of said nonexistent fandom (and you couldn't be, as it does not exist), then you probably aren't posting on MLPF; a website accommodating an imaginary fandom founded on a television series no one's seen that features colorful ponies that you claim do not exist.  If you aren't here posting on this website, your post does not exist.  If your post does not exist, you've not actually said anything.  And since I rely upon your post to determine whether or not you exist, I can't be certain that you do.

 

Einstein did exist, does exist and his work will be remembered for many years. MLP will be forgotten eventually.

Edited July 11, 2015 by RainbowVortex

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

Einstein did exist, does exist and his work will be remembered for many years. MLP will be forgotten eventually.

But he doesn't currently exist; except for as a corpse.  Corpses are not known for being highly (or even slightly) communicative.  If you went and asked his skeleton to explain the theory of relativity, you'd likely get a whole lot of nothing.  Though you could ask Einstein's skeleton the result of two plus two, and Einstein's skeleton would still be at a loss.