Why Does Nintendo Get Free Passes?

[Unikitty 1,212]

Some people literally will justify their money spent to the point where they will ignore being dissatisfied. I am not kidding it's a physiological thing. People don't like admitting they made a mistake or that they got ripped off, so they will convince themselves something is good to not have to admit that. I have a feeling that's what is going on with a lot of this. People just don't want to admit that they may have been swindled.

 

Without a doubt that happens on all sides. You're bound to get people who overspend without thinking. Hell, I know I've spent money when I shouldn't have. But I feel quite confident I've yet to have that issue with a Nintendo product.

[Lexamena 391]

Id say Nintendo gets bashed alot more than any other console. All the articles i see do nothing but talk about how terrible sales are and that Nintendo is on track to go bankrupt if they don't change the type of games they make. They dont upgrade graphics, they dont do third party, they dont reach out to the hard core gamers. Blah blah blah. Not my idea of a free pass.

[Guest]

Id say Nintendo gets bashed alot more than any other console. All the articles i see do nothing but talk about how terrible sales are and that Nintendo is on track to go bankrupt if they don't change the type of games they make. They dont upgrade graphics, they dont do third party, they dont reach out to the hard core gamers. Blah blah blah. Not my idea of a free pass.

I'm more referring to from fans. Should have specified, sorry. Fans are ignoring a lot of the press about Nintendo and insisting that they are still "the best" and that "nothing is wrong".

[Lexamena 391]

I'm more referring to from fans. Should have specified, sorry. Fans are ignoring a lot of the press about Nintendo and insisting that they are still "the best" and that "nothing is wrong".

Well, in that case, yeah im probably one of them there fans. I do happen to think Nintendo is great, not the best, but great. I personally have 30 years of loyalty built up, so, nintendo will always be best in my mind. Regardless of whether or not their games look 100% real or are original or whatever, i dont care. I got my LoZ and that is literally all i need.

[long gone 8,929]

As much as I like Nintendo, I will refuse to give them free passes for a lot of things, like how they are treating the internet and online videos of their games (funny, considering how the late Satoru Iwata loved computers and held a degree in computer science), their reliance on old, aging technology instead of advancing with the rest of the industry, among other things. I do appreciate how they try not to bullshit their fans with "30FPS = more cinematic/better" and are sticking to 60FPS, but a lot of the things they've been doing lately are just inexcusable and I fully acknowledge this.

[Guest]

Well, in that case, yeah im probably one of them there fans. I do happen to think Nintendo is great, not the best, but great. I personally have 30 years of loyalty built up, so, nintendo will always be best in my mind. Regardless of whether or not their games look 100% real or are original or whatever, i dont care. I got my LoZ and that is literally all i need.

That's part of the problem though. I try and look at things objectively and a company surviving on blind loyalty of fans (no offense) is NOT a good business strategy as the sales are proving.

 

 

 

As much as I like Nintendo, I will refuse to give them free passes for a lot of things, like how they are treating the internet and online videos of their games (funny, considering how the late Satoru Iwata loved computers and held a degree in computer science), their reliance on old, aging technology instead of advancing with the rest of the industry, among other things. I do appreciate how they try not to bullshit their fans with "30FPS = more cinematic/better" and are sticking to 60FPS, but a lot of the things they've been doing lately are just inexcusable and I fully acknowledge this.

That's what baffles me. They KNOW they need to advance and adapt to compete, but they keep refusing...

[Radiance64 7,053]

As much as I love Nintendo, I despise the Wii U's current pricing as well actually. I mean, there's a lot I want to play on it, but damn... I just wouldn't feel good about dropping that money down, price drop anytime pls.

[Celli 4,338]

Honestly, all three companies need to get some sense slapped into them. 

Oh, you forgot to mention that Nintendo is taking to removing gameplay videos off of youtube for literally no reason, and their content creator plan, whatever it is, on YT, is complete BS.

Nintendo's out of touch, Sony and M$ are money-whoring companies that need to stop claiming shit and then saying "Oh, we're sorry, the game has to be downscaled because we can't invest in decent hardware. Sorry for lying to you."

Hence why I'm a PC gamer first and foremost.

Though, I will say that Sony and M$ are doing more questionable things than Nintendo. 

[The Nth Doctor 663]

I remember when there were codes to unlock skins and extra players

 

Now we have to pay money for it

 

 

I don't care what people think of me, I happily support people who go through the trouble of hacking the hidden content for people to use

[Guest]

Honestly, all three companies need to get some sense slapped into them. 

Oh, you forgot to mention that Nintendo is taking to removing gameplay videos off of youtube for literally no reason, and their content creator plan, whatever it is, on YT, is complete BS.

Nintendo's out of touch, Sony and M$ are money-whoring companies that need to stop claiming shit and then saying "Oh, we're sorry, the game has to be downscaled because we can't invest in decent hardware. Sorry for lying to you."

Hence why I'm a PC gamer first and foremost.

Though, I will say that Sony and M$ are doing more questionable things than Nintendo. 

Lol I am still a PC gamer, but come on, can we deny that PC has some crap as well? Hell remember how many people got "excited" that you could finally refund games on steam? Something we should have been able to do like... Close to 10 years ago?

 

Remember crappy PC ports that don't even run well on fairly high end rigs? Remember games that were released with insanely high spec requirements? Remember having to wait an additional 2 years to get GTAV?

 

Let's be honest: every platform has a lot of BS you have to deal with, but it feels like Nintendo is instead of lowering the BS, they're RAISING it.

[Celli 4,338]

Lol I am still a PC gamer, but come on, can we deny that PC has some crap as well? Hell remember how many people got "excited" that you could finally refund games on steam? Something we should have been able to do like... Close to 10 years ago?

 

Remember crappy PC ports that don't even run well on fairly high end rigs? Remember games that were released with insanely high spec requirements? Remember having to wait an additional 2 years to get GTAV?

 

Let's be honest: every platform has a lot of BS you have to deal with, but it feels like Nintendo is instead of lowering the BS, they're RAISING it.

I'm not denying that every platform has problems. And crappy PC ports aren't as common as you think. I do agree about steam, though.

Also, I disagree with Nintendo being the worst offender. Like people said in this thread, they don't lie to their customers and make bullshit claims. I'd rather have a company not have great third party support and do somewhat poorly than be lied to, and claim the console can do things it clearly can't. And they're far from the worst offenders. EA and Ubisoft are two of the worst companies in the industry and deserve all the flak they get. I don't care if they're not console makers.

Edited July 18, 2015 by Celli

[Guest]

I'm not denying that every platform has problems. And crappy PC ports aren't as common as you think. I do agree about steam, though.

Also, I disagree with Nintendo being the worst offender. Like people said in this thread, they don't lie to their customers and make bullshit claims. I'd rather have a company not have great third party support and do somewhat poorly than be lied to, and claim the console can do things it clearly can't. And they're far from the worst offenders. EA and Ubisoft are two of the worst companies in the industry and deserve all the flak they get. I don't care if they're not console makers.

Crappy PC ports seem to happen pretty often these days. Far worse than they used to be that's for sure. I've been playing PC for over 12 years and it's never been as bad as it is now. It's insanely awful now. 

 

Nintendo kind of does lie though... They promised they were going to cater to hardcore gamers, they didn't do that. They promised more third party support multiple times, they didn't do that either. They lied about two of their core elements of what they said they were going to be doing this generation. I'd consider that a pretty big slip up. They also try and disguise micro-transactions as amiibos and such. It's all the same crap, but different names slapped on it. I'd say that's all the same shady crap everyone else is doing, but at least they are being honest about being crappy.

 

 

Nintendo has made so many promises that they could not keep that I think they deserve a bit more flak than they are getting. Not to mention they are nickel and diming us with peripherals left and right. Hell if you are 3DS owner and want to take full advantage of the next animal crossing game you either need to buy a new 3DS or get a stupid card reader.

[cider float 2,538]

Probably because those that play playstation or XBox are the ones that complain about the DLC and microtransanctions in their games while the ones playing Wii U have no problem with it?

 

You got to give Nintendo games one thing though, they don't make the same game twice unlike any Space Marine or Army FPS series out there.

Edited July 18, 2015 by cider float

[Celli 4,338]

 

 

Crappy PC ports seem to happen pretty often these days. Far worse than they used to be that's for sure. I've been playing PC for over 12 years and it's never been as bad as it is now. It's insanely awful now.

I've seen a few shoddy ports here and there, mostly from Ubisoft, and Rocksteady, but I'm fairly certain I've not seen that many.

 

 

Nintendo kind of does lie though... They promised they were going to cater to hardcore gamers, they didn't do that. They promised more third party support multiple times, they didn't do that either. They lied about two of their core elements of what they said they were going to be doing this generation. I'd consider that a pretty big slip up. They also try and disguise micro-transactions as amiibos and such. It's all the same crap, but different names slapped on it. I'd say that's all the same shady crap everyone else is doing, but at least they are being honest about being crappy

I don't recall them ever saying they were going to cater the "hardcore" players. And trash talk the amiibos all you want, at least they're not gating content that's required to complete a game Yes, they're microtransactions, but they're optional and add small stuff like additonal characters in some games. EA is the worst offender when it comes to DLC that blocks important parts of a game. 

 

 

Nintendo has made so many promises that they could not keep that I think they deserve a bit more flak than they are getting. Not to mention they are nickel and diming us with peripherals left and right. Hell if you are 3DS owner and want to take full advantage of the next animal crossing game you either need to buy a new 3DS or get a stupid card reader

But they don't promise amazing visuals and the best gameplay experience, only to say, "Yeah, we had to cut this out due to hardware restrictions." And the only peripheral I know of is the Wii U gamepad and maybe the 3DS circle pad pro. I don't know where you're getting that they're adding more and more controllers/addons from, but I'm pretty sure that's wrong.

[long gone 8,929]

Y'know, I've felt that Nintendo needed a change in leadership for about five or six years now. Iwata dying was not how I wanted it to happen, though.

[Hocus Pocus 636]

I've never heard anyone buy a Playstation for the exclusives and then get an Xbox for all the rest

 

I kind of have to ask.... What does this have to do with the Wii U? You say that people shouldn't buy the Wii U for exclusives because they shouldn't buy BOTH Xbox and ps4 for both of theirs? I'm a little confused. If someone's buying one console for the excusives, why should it matter if it's Wii U? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you're equating buying one Wii U to buying both an Xbone and a PS4 in order to get both of their exclusives.

 

 

 

Why is it okay for Nintendo to give us a system that is significantly less powerful and can't handle third party?

 

Actually, the Wii U has higher definition than Xbone and a better framerate than PS4. The reason that there aren't as many third party titles (which there still are several: Bayonetta 2, Assassin's Creed: Black Flag, Batman: Arkham Origins, Ray Man, Shin Megami Tinsei, Scribblenauts, Monster Hunter, etc.) is because Nintendo has somewhat of a reputation for being hard to work with. I'm not sure how true the rumor is, as I am not a game developer, however, don't say that Nintendo doesn't have third party titles because its system can't handle them. Nintendo has proven its hardware can handle third party titles.

 

 

 

And finally: amiiboos, and the upcoming amiiboo cards.

 

The Amiibos, however, I won't defend. It's a decent concept on paper, as I'm actually not against the idea of DLC. When it comes to DLC, Nintendo handles it really well in general.... Just not with Amiibos. They supply a great, and finished game such as Hyrule Warriors, with hours upon hours of content, and then they release DLC as a sort of "expansion pack". When DLC goes too far is when we're sold an unfinished product and then we're expected to pay for it again through DLC in order to get a product worth actually playing. Even with Amiibo, Nintendo isn't doing this, however, deliberately making low-supplies of Amiibo in order to generate value for your product is just plain stupid. It bars off players from those expansion packs while scalpers sit back and laugh.

 

 

 

On top of this, many people claim the Wii U is the "cheapest" system so it's justified. Ummm... No it isn't. Let's look at a PS4: In the box: -Headset -System -Controller -Cables -Charge cable -Game

 

Literally the only thing that's in this box that isn't in a  box for a Wii U is the headset.

 

 

 

I got my Wii U with the Windwaker pack. Now that is the 32GB deluxe system, unfortunately even at the price of $349, I still would need more stuff right after I got it: -Wiimote $30-50 if you shop around -Numchuk $10-20 -Rechargable batteries - About $10 -External Hard drive - Around $40-50 depending on the size, because let's face it that internal isn't going to store shit.

 

This does bring up a good point. The Wii U really does need to ship with at least one Wiimote + Nunchuck combo in box... However, where the heck are you buying if your wiimotes are costing $30-$50?!?!?! Do a quick google search and you'll see they're AT MOST $25 even with motion plus and Nunchuck included (most of them are only about $15, which is half as much as the minimum you have listed)! And how many games do you play if 32 GB isn't enough to store it all on?!?! You really shouldn't need an external hard drive unless all of your games were downloaded from the e-shop! 32 GB Stores way more than I'll ever need!

 

I'm not denying that you bring up a few good points, but for goodness sake, please do your research on what you say.

Edited July 18, 2015 by Hocus Pocus

[Guest]

 

 

I don't recall them ever saying they were going to cater the "hardcore" players. And trash talk the amiibos all you want, at least they're not gating content that's required to complete a game Yes, they're microtransactions, but they're optional and add small stuff like additonal characters in some games. EA is the worst offender when it comes to DLC that blocks important parts of a game. 

 

 

That was literally what they promised when they announced the Wii U. They promised a system that is more catered to hardcore gamers and would have the third party support. Thus why they launched with Mass Effect 3, Arkham City, etc.

 

And I'm sorry, but I consider all locking out of any content until you buy some stupid extra thing, not okay. Micro-transactions suck all around. I like owning the FULL copy of games.

 

 

 

But they don't promise amazing visuals and the best gameplay experience, only to say, "Yeah, we had to cut this out due to hardware restrictions." And the only peripheral I know of is the Wii U gamepad and maybe the 3DS circle pad pro. I don't know where you're getting that they're adding more and more controllers/addons from, but I'm pretty sure that's wrong.

 

Gamecube controller adapter.

Pro controller

Wiimote

Gamecube controller

 

All of which not included with the Wii U. Now Amiibos, which are peripherals, physical items you need to get to add to games. And if you are an old 3DS owner, now you need a scanner to scan the upcoming amiibo cards. I am pretty certain I am not wrong. Nintendo is well known for having a crap ton of peripherals for their games. Look at the Wii:

 

Balance Board

Wii motion plus

Classic Controller

Gamecube controller

 

All of which used in Wii games, but none of which included with the original system. Nintendo has too many damn controllers for playing games, thus.

[Celli 4,338]

@,Ugh, I'm not even going to try arguing any further. There is literally nothing else I can add. I'm done with this conversation. 

[Denim&Venöm 19,261]

Simple. It's not. That's why I don't own a Wii U.

 

Hypocritically of myself now, I want a Wii U just so I can play Splatoon. I'm probably just gonna buy used editions of both console and game (and a standard controller (unless gamecube controllers work) because motion controls and that touch screen look clunk as hell.)

[Guest]

I kind of have to ask.... What does this have to do with the Wii U? You say that people shouldn't buy the Wii U for exclusives because they shouldn't buy BOTH Xbox and ps4 for both of theirs? I'm a little confused. If someone's buying one console for the excusives, why should it matter if it's Wii U? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you're equating buying one Wii U to buying both an Xbone and a PS4 in order to get both of their exclusives.

 

That's not what I am equating it to. I am stating how many people make the argument of getting Nintendo console that you buy Nintendo console ONLY for first party titles and you don't hear that as often with Playstation or Xbox. My point being that it's an excuse people make for Nintendo not having third party.

 

 

 

Actually, the Wii U has higher definition than Xbone and a better framerate than PS4.

 

Err... That's not exactly a fair comparison... It's far easier to run 1080p games in 60FPS when you are running lower graphics and reduced textures... :|

 

Also even Mario Kart 8 which is one of the best looking games on the Wii U is 720p, not 1080p: http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Mario-Kart-8-Confirmed-Native-720p-60fps-Wii-U-64285.html

 

Splatoon is 720p as well, as is Hyrule Warriors (which also suffers res and texture drops when playing co-op), many of the games initially reported running at 1080p were actually confirmed incorrect. Turns out they are actually 720p upscales. Nintendo did a naughty and didn't tell the truth to news reports about their upscaling. So unless you count upscaling as 1080p, no it does not. You may want to read up before making such claims.

 

 

The reason that there aren't as many third party titles (which there still are several: Bayonetta 2, Assassin's Creed: Black Flag, Batman: Arkham Origins, Ray Man, Shin Megami Tinsei, Scribblenauts, Monster Hunter, etc.) is because Nintendo has somewhat of a reputation for being hard to work with. I'm not sure how true the rumor is, as I am not a game developer, however, don't say that Nintendo doesn't have third party titles because its system can't handle them. Nintendo has proven its hardware can handle third party titles.

 

That's hardly many third party titles, considering Ubisoft has stated they are more or less completely pulling support for the Wii U entirely. The next CoD is not coming to Wii U either. Bayonetta 2 only happened because Nintendo forked over some cash. The system is not powerful enough to run games from third party. Square Enix even stated the reason the Wii U is not getting Kingdom Hearts 3 is because the system is not powerful enough. The low end hardware means developers need to develop a second version of their games for the Wii U and the game will not look how they want it to look. The hardware being not powerful enough is half the reason why the Wii U is not getting much third party support.

 

 

 

The Amiibos, however, I won't defend. It's a decent concept on paper, as I'm actually not against the idea of DLC. When it comes to DLC, Nintendo handles it really well in general.... Just not with Amiibos.

 

Except they release systems which hardly have enough space on them to support having much installed natively on the console. So I'd say that hindsight is definitely not 20/20.

 

 

 

Even with Amiibo, Nintendo isn't doing this, however, deliberately making low-supplies of Amiibo in order to generate value for your product is just plain stupid. It bars off players from those expansion packs while scalpers sit back and laugh.

 

That I agree with. The supply is ridiculous.

 

 

 

Literally the only thing that's in this box that isn't in a  box for a Wii U is the headset.

 

Err... I own a Wii U. You don't get a Wiimote (which is needed for many features such as if you want to buy the Metroid Prime trilogy, and several games), batteries for said wiimote even after you buy it, nukchuk, hard drive (which even if you have the 32GB unit, you'll be needing it fairly quickly). The Wii U needs to come with more in the box because it does NOT come with everything you need to get FULL use of the system. If you want to get FULL use of the system. I do not consider it "complete" when there are things I'll need for modern games being released and features that come packaged with the unit.

 

 

 

This does bring up a good point. The Wii U really does need to ship with at least one Wiimote + Nunchuck combo in box... However, where the heck are you buying if your wiimotes are costing $30-$50?!?!?! Do a quick google search and you'll see they're AT MOST $25 even with motion plus and Nunchuck included (most of them are only about $15, which is half as much as the minimum you have listed)! And how many games do you play if 32 GB isn't enough to store it all on?!?! You really shouldn't need an external hard drive unless all of your games were downloaded from the e-shop! 32 GB Stores way more than I'll ever need!   I'm not denying that you bring up a few good points, but for goodness sake, please do your research on what you say.

 

I am ONLY counting first party controllers here and assuming people want NEW. Yes, you can buy anything "used" for cheaper, but when I get a NEW console, I want NEW controllers too. My prices may be a bit out of date though, admittedly. I apologize.

 

However I will defend my point of 32GB not being enough! I own the Windwaker model and it does not include the physical game, instead it's a download. So that's a couple of your GB already taken up outside the box from the 27GB left over after system memory. Effectively you're left with not that much space. I bought 3 games off the eShop, no DLC yet and I am already down to 12.6GB. That's DEFINITELY a problem because that means if I buy 2-3 more games off the eShop, I'm more or less full. God help me if I decide I want DLC packs. This is definitely not enough when games are taking up several GBs at a time. When a good chunk of gamers buy games digitally, this is something that needs to be fixed. Remember most Nintendo exclusives are sold out for a good few weeks upon release, so for a lot of people digital is the only way to play them on release.

 

 

For those who are trying to figure out what I am talking about. Out of the box for the Wii U, even with the deluxe model, here is a list of things you CAN NOT DO without having to buy additional hardware:

 

Wii Mode - You can not play any wii games, or access ANY of the Wii virtual console games, which is a lot because the Wii U's virtual console is very small. You will NEED the Wii mode virtual console for a majority of old school games.

 

Play all Virtual Console games - Some of them require a classic controller, or a gamecube controller, which you can't use for the Wii U, so you will NEED a classic controller if you want to play Majora's Mask off the virtual console.

 

Metroid Prime Trilogy - Sold right on the Wii U eShop, can't play it out of the box, need a Wiimote.

 

Gamecube Controllers in Smash bros. - Need to buy an adapter.

 

Download many games off the eShop - You're going to run out of storage after about 4-5 games. Not really a lot.

 

Play some Wii U games - Some Wii U games ACTUALLY REQUIRE A WIIMOTE. Even if the list is small, requiring a controller for some games and not including said controller is a problem.

 

 

And of course features you can't do at all on the Wii U:

 

Play DVDs

Play Blurays

Play Videos off of harddrives/flash drives

Play music in any capacity that isn't off of youtube

Voice Chat with friends in a convenient setting (literally the voice chat app basically forces you both to be on the app at the same time, and have nothing else open)

Form parties

Achievements

Have players get the same game experience in local co-op. Players are forced to use different controllers with the exception of some games.

Etc.

Edited July 18, 2015 by Guest

[VulpineTaco 525]

Maybe because the Wii U actually has fun games that are experiences you can't get better on PC? Honestly, though, there is not a single PS4 game out that I can't get for better on PC, or a similar, better experience.

[Guest]

Maybe because the Wii U actually has fun games that are experiences you can't get better on PC? Honestly, though, there is not a single PS4 game out that I can't get for better on PC, or a similar, better experience.

But you also can't get a majority of those games on the Wii U at all. Sure I can get Fallout 4 on the PC with better graphics and all, but I can't get it on the Wii U at all. At least the PS4 has the game. It's convenient for those who don't have the money to invest in multiple platforms.

[long gone 8,929]

 

 

Actually, the Wii U has higher definition than Xbone and a better framerate than PS4.

 Do you mean resolution? Because if so, that's false. The majority of Wii U games run at 720p with a handful at 1080p, while most Xbone games run at 792p or 900p, or 1080p if the developer wants to push it. It is true, though, that the Wii U has a better average frame rate than the PS4. I still remember when having a low frame rate was a disadvantage in games. *sigh*

[VulpineTaco 525]

But you also can't get a majority of those games on the Wii U at all. Sure I can get Fallout 4 on the PC with better graphics and all, but I can't get it on the Wii U at all. At least the PS4 has the game. It's convenient for those who don't have the money to invest in multiple platforms.

If you don't have the money to invest in multiple platforms, build a PC and have a cheaper, objectively better experience. The WiiU has some of the most creative, fun exclusives out there, and unlike many (and I dare use the word) entitled gamers today, I buy a console for games, not social media and movies. I have a TV, phone, and computer for those things. Nintendo focuses on games, and they focus on fun, something other consoles have left in the dust for "big, epic experiences" that turn out to be another throwaway grey shooter. The WiiU has some of the most fun and memorable gaming experiences I've had on a console since the early Xbox 360, and I don't need all these bells and whistles to have that good time. I can tell you all about the wacky moments I've seen playing Bayonetta 2, the frustratingly rewarding monsters in Monster Hunter, the times I've spent with family on the couch playing Mario, the awesome fun I've had playing Splatoon. But if you ask me about the other console exclusives and the memories I've had with them, I don't, because they don't have the same focus on fun, save for Killer Instinct, which I do adore. And let's not forget that more WiiU games run at 60 FPS than the other two consoles, which goes to show that even if you have more advanced hardware, your games won't run any better for it.

 

TLDR; If you want to play more games cheaply, just build a PC, but the WiiU has more fun, memorable experiences than any other current-gen console.

Edited July 19, 2015 by VulpineTaco

[Guest]

If you don't have the money to invest in multiple platforms, build a PC and have a cheaper, objectively better experience. The WiiU has some of the most creative, fun exclusives out there, and unlike many (and I dare use the word) entitled gamers today, I buy a console for games, not social media and movies. I have a TV, phone, and computer for those things. Nintendo focuses on games, and they focus on fun, something other consoles have left in the dust for "big, epic experiences" that turn out to be another throwaway grey shooter. The WiiU has some of the most fun and memorable gaming experiences I've had on a console since the early Xbox 360, and I don't need all these bells and whistles to have that good time. I can tell you all about the wacky moments I've seen playing Bayonetta 2, the frustratingly rewarding monsters in Monster Hunter, the times I've spent with family on the couch playing Mario, the awesome fun I've had playing Splatoon. But if you ask me about the other console exclusives and the memories I've had with them, I don't, because they don't have the same focus on fun, save for Killer Instinct, which I do adore. And let's not forget that more WiiU games run at 60 FPS than the other two consoles, which goes to show that even if you have more advanced hardware, your games won't run any better for it.

 

TLDR; If you want to play more games cheaply, just build a PC, but the WiiU has more fun, memorable experiences than any other current-gen console.

I am a PC gamer, and I can safely say that building a PC that can run modern games is more expensive than buying a console.

 

I think you need to take a step back and stop looking through the fan glasses and look more objectively. You're kind of coming off as a fan who is mad that someone has criticized their favorite company rather than someone creating a sound argument against said criticisms.

 

That being said, I shall respond to your points as objectively as possible:

 

On the note of people being "entitled" for expecting social media and movie features on consoles, I disagree heavily. These features exist on the PC, they exist on the PS3, and Xbox 360. They have become a part of what people expect with gaming devices these days, not out of entitledness, but out of the fact that every other gaming device can do them. You can't charge me close to the same price and give me less and then say me being upset about that is because I'm entitled. The Wii U is pretty damn close to price to its competitors For only $50 more you can get an Xbox One, and really that $50 you are going to spend on extra hardware to get the Wii U's full functionality. Not being able to use social media aspects is a detriment to the gaming experience. Gaming has become far more social and to not fully include that aspect is lessening the experience for players.

 

Your argument that the other consoles are not focusing on fun is not only subjective, but incorrect. I would wager that twice the sales of the Wii U would say people are having fun on the PS4. The PS4 is leading in software sales, which means people are buying games up the wazoo for it. Your definition of fun may be different, but I am not trying to argue the subjective idea of fun, because that's a moot point and not a good argument standpoint.

 

Your idea of fun clearly is not matching the majority, and when you're a business that's what counts: sales. When sales are dropping, you need to change your gameplan.

 

Your argument of running at 60FPS... Well to respond: 60FPS is far easier to achieve when a majority of your games run at 720p with lower res textures. You're over simplifying the logistics of it.