That argument: It's a show for children stop being so serious

[cider float 2,538]

Soooo now you're saying it's not fun? It seems you're changing things now. And as you said, people who dislike people who overanalyze the show aren't weird. I agree. And those who have a problem with that should get over it. Okay...I respect that.

.but one could say this: people who overanalyze the show should expect that not everyone will agree with them. And if someone jumps in saying "yo that's too much, chill out" then that person needs to "get over it and move on"

 

There will always be those who agree and disagree. A REAL critic must be prepared for both praises and counter criticism. A person who jumps in saying it's a kids show will appear. You have to be prepared for that.

 

 

First you create a topic saying the kids show argument is stupid. Then say those who over analyze it do it for fun. And those who come in and say "it's a kids show" do it for fun...contradiction right there. And then you backtrack and say how it's more frustrating and how people SHOULDN'T disagree with people and say it's a kid show? That if people disagree....they shouldn't post at all? And they need to go somewhere else where people say what they want to hear?

Actually nobody needs to keep taking criticism while being able to give it. There is no requirement for that. And nobody needs to calm down just because someone suggested it. 

 

The main point of why I made this if you wanted a point was to discuss this but apparently you think there is some kind of goal to it when you say I contradicted myself because it isn't a contradiction it's a possible realization and theory that people that say "chill out it's just a show for children" do that do it for fun.

[Silver Stream. 708]

Actually nobody needs to keep taking criticism while being able to give it. There is no requirement for that. And nobody needs to calm down just because someone suggested it.

 

The main point of why I made this if you wanted a point was to discuss this but apparently you think there is some kind of goal to it when you say I contradicted myself because it isn't a contradiction it's a possible realization and theory that people that say "chill out it's just a show for children" do that do it for fun.

And it's not a requirement for people to not express a dislike for criticism just like it's not a requirement to accept just anything that the show does.

 

If you was ranting about something you didn't like on a show, and I came in saying "hey calm down it's a kids show" would you honestly calm down and force yourself to stop expressing your opinion which you are entitled to do?

 

No....you wouldn't. You'd either ignore me and move on or acknowledge me and express how you have the right to your opinion and you shouldn't calm down.

 

I never said it was a requirement....I said any critic needs to be prepared for it. Prepare for feedback always....whether that feedback is positive or negative. That's not a requirement, that's life.

 

Just like how people who see someone over analyzing something shouldn't take it personal, people who are told "chill out, it's a kid show" shouldn't take it personally either.

 

Everyone is a critic. There will always be both praises and criticism to what is said anywhere. Just how you are entitled to believe the "it's just a kids show...don't be too serious about it" isn't a grounded defense for over-analyst, then it's only fair that people who use the phrase think the reasons behind criticism over a sml detail isn't well grounded either.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Princess Sunset

[Luna the Great of all the Russias 3,003]

"It's a show for children. Stop being so serious."

 

Personally, there are many shows supposedly aimed towards children which I wouldn't feel comfortable showing to them. After watching many of MrEnter's Animated Atrocities, I realize how bad some cartoons can be. Some of them are bad but ultimately harmless, but others I see as too terrible to be worth time watching.

 

While that children's show statement exists, on opposite side, it was interesting for him to note that this mindset seems to exist as well (though people aren't outright saying it) "It's a show for adults. It should only have gore, sex, and shock moments".

[Trixio 443]

There are some people who want to go too "deeply" about things. When this happens about MLP, there will be people like me, who will say: "It's a show for children stop being so serious".

[Trixie Heartstrings 434]

 

 

I wouldn't think it was for toddlers or anything.... maybe preteens and teenagers. "Kids" is a very broad term when it comes to what ages each individual means when they say "kids show".

I actually did not think about that. If that's the case, then I guess I'm within the target audience since I'm a teenager(although I'm a guy, so maybe not). Even if I'm not though, I'm completley fine with that. It's not going to have any effect on my enjoyment of the show, same thing with people nitpicking. If there are things like major plotholes that completely ruin an episode, that would effect my enjoyment of the episode, but not of the entire show.

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

The show can't be for little kids anyway because, how are these little kids who sometimes don't even know how to control their bowels going to understand how complicated the plot is overall. Also they don't get all of the references to pop culture like we do

 

By the gods, what show have you been watching? There's no "complicated" plot, they just solve friendship problem and sometimes they use the power of friendship to defeat villains.

[BPCannon 193]

I wouldn't just say "it's a show for kids" quote as a defence to someone nitpicking because i'm more incline to think that it's a show that can be enjoyed by either kids, or teens and adults who like a fairly decent bit of entertainment, but also have other things to do with their life besides constantly obsessing over it and being unreasonably pedantic, which is not most people, but unfortunately it does apply to some

 

If someone likes a predominantly light hearted show about friendship, perhaps they could lighten up a bit and enjoy, instead of constantly looking for any problem or negative they can find. Pointing out and continuity issues and errors to open up discussion and possible explantions is ok, I only have issue with people who get really angry over it - perphaps more frequent in youtube comments than here, but there are people who throw a hissy fit about something in every single episode. Really makes me think they should find something else to do

[SteveMorison 404]

Would this be known as hyper-criticism?

[Chronamut 355]

what I love about the show is that most, if not ALL of the plot holes can be justified SOMEHOW, and that sometimes I wonder if the staff simply uses the fanbase as a thinktank on how to stabilize the storyline they are cowboying - why hire people to write it when you can simply look at the fanbase, see this this and that person made a pretty legit argument and theory, and add it to the story? The engagement with the fans is one of the things that makes this show into a community, and not just a bunch of die-hard fans.

[BPCannon 193]

Would this be known as hyper-criticism?

 

That's actually one of the clips I commented on myself, on the yootoobs. It was in an anti brony clip complilation. Annoying that someone had compiled a bunch of clips to show only the worst of a very large, comprehensive, often talented and creative fandom. But in the end what annoyed me most was this guy. It's not even the show he's complaining about, it's a fricking colouring and activity book. Both my kids would be perfectly happy with that book, and all his whining and the bit about "true demographic" just comes across like someone who would rather the show was just aimed at his age group and stopped trying to cater for kids altogether

 

It's a good show, and it's nice that different age groups can enjoy it, but we all have to share. So in the same way that youg kids won't get some of the pop culture references and fandom nods, there should also be elements that exist for the younger audience, that might not click with the older ones. Tis only fair afterall

[SteveMorison 404]

That's actually one of the clips I commented on myself, on the yootoobs. It was in an anti brony clip complilation. Annoying that someone had compiled a bunch of clips to show only the worst of a very large, comprehensive, often talented and creative fandom. But in the end what annoyed me most was this guy. It's not even the show he's complaining about, it's a fricking colouring and activity book. Both my kids would be perfectly happy with that book, and all his whining and the bit about "true demographic" just comes across like someone who would rather the show was just aimed at his age group and stopped trying to cater for kids altogether

 

It's a good show, and it's nice that different age groups can enjoy it, but we all have to share. So in the same way that youg kids won't get some of the pop culture references and fandom nods, there should also be elements that exist for the younger audience, that might not click with the older ones. Tis only fair afterall

I kind of feel that way with all the critics of G3 MLP. Unlike FiM, G3 is not written in a way that would appeal to adults as well as kids but it was never supposed to be, it was just a mildly entertaining cartoon for 2-4 year old girls. And at the time it had a decent amount of success with it's target demographic, enough to have it's own live show at the Kodac Theatre. It wasn't great admittedly and it probably would have faded into forgetable mediocrity if not for the existence of bronies who now feel the need to attack the show for not living up to FiM.

[Chronamut 355]

it was pretty creepy though compared to FiM standards hehe.. 

[SteveMorison 404]

it was pretty creepy though compared to FiM standards hehe..

I'll definitely nod to that

[BPCannon 193]

Showed it to my daugher a few months ago (age 6 at the time) her response to the young scootaloo and freinds was "oh my god, these things are freaky"

 

Mabe would have had a different reaction if not for the fact that she had already been watching G4 for a long time

[Kivil 1,721]

By the gods, what show have you been watching? There's no "complicated" plot, they just solve friendship problem and sometimes they use the power of friendship to defeat villains.

Maybe I am just looking to deep into it but Season 5 episodes 1+2 were rather complicated because of the brainwashing thing