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Are There Any Villains In The Show You Think Deserve To Be Reformed?


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Looking back at the premiere's and finale's throughout the show, I've noticed there were villains who I think outright deserved what they got and should not be given another chance, like Tirek (Seriously, he might as well be MLP's Satan) , and those who I think it would be cool to bring them back for some kind of redemption episode or special where they are converted from evil to good (Maybe Chrysalis) , or at the very least, don't bring harm to Equestria, as I understand the turn a bad guy good shtick might come off overused to some. I don't care how many times they do it though, since it means we've gotten to see more of Discord and other villains in a more lighthearted setting and getting to know them in the show better. Plus, hey, it melts my heart every time I see a character reformed. So there are those two types, but then there are villains who just didn't interest me like King Sombra. Well, I've put in my two bits, what do you think? Anyone else who needs to TASTE THE RAINBOW... Of friendship?  :fluttershy:

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No, but that doesn't mean that they won't be reformed if the writers want them to.

If Starlight can be reformed after almost destroying the time space continuum and brainwashing others in her reeducation camp and enslaving them into her cult, only because her best friend moved away and for no other reason, than anyone can and will be redeemed.

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No, but that doesn't mean that they won't be reformed if the writers want them to.

If Starlight can be reformed after almost destroying the time space continuum and brainwashing others in her reeducation camp and enslaving them into her cult, only because her best friend moved away and for no other reason, than anyone can and will be redeemed.

Well, let's face it, if they went killing off characters like crazy some parents wouldn't consider that acceptable for the children audience MLP: FIM is originally marketed to, so I guess there's no way around it. Yeah, they could have just banished every villain to tartarus but I just don't find that interesting honestly.


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Well, let's face it, if they went killing off characters like crazy some parents wouldn't consider that acceptable for the children audience MLP: FIM is originally marketed to, so I guess there's no way around it. Yeah, they could have just banished every villain to tartarus but I just don't find that interesting honestly.

They could have just had her arrested or something.

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They could have just had her arrested or something.

Meh, going by that logic you'd think they'd have arrested Luna after what happened with the Elements Of Harmony in Season 1.


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There are three types of antagonists that FiM has introduced in respect to motivation. Blinded by anger due to a perceived personal slight, disruptive but not deadly, and old fashioned power hungry conquer types. There is a little fluidity between these (especially when you include comics), but those with personal baggage have usually been reformed.

 

Tirek will likely never be reformed because the writers specifically used a plot point that would have allowed him to be reformed, but turned it on its head by having Tirek acknowledge he understands friendship and brotherhood but simply doesn't care.

 

Starlight, Sunset, and Nightmare Moon had issues in their back stories that influenced their villainy. Jealousy and perceived abandonment. Their reformations made thematic sense, though with varying degrees of success.

 

Sombra gets weird ... cause comics. Looking at just the show and trying to ignore the comic series it is hard to see him redeemed, yet the comics laid down a way it could be done (though hopefully executed better).

 

Chrysalis ... she is a force of nature villain similar to Sombra and Discord. She hasn't exhibited the playfulness of Discord which made him likeable. For her to be reformed they need to give her a personality that we can sympathize with. As it stands she may be reformable ... but I hope they don't.

 

I want Tirek and Chrysalis to remain villains. I do hope the Changeling Queen finds herself sans subjects :)

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There are three types of antagonists that FiM has introduced in respect to motivation. Blinded by anger due to a perceived personal slight, disruptive but not deadly, and old fashioned power hungry conquer types. There is a little fluidity between these (especially when you include comics), but those with personal baggage have usually been reformed.

 

Tirek will likely never be reformed because the writers specifically used a plot point that would have allowed him to be reformed, but turned it on its head by having Tirek acknowledge he understands friendship and brotherhood but simply doesn't care.

 

Starlight, Sunset, and Nightmare Moon had issues in their back stories that influenced their villainy. Jealousy and perceived abandonment. Their reformations made thematic sense, though with varying degrees of success.

 

Sombra gets weird ... cause comics. Looking at just the show and trying to ignore the comic series it is hard to see him redeemed, yet the comics laid down a way it could be done (though hopefully executed better).

 

Chrysalis ... she is a force of nature villain similar to Sombra and Discord. She hasn't exhibited the playfulness of Discord which made him likeable. For her to be reformed they need to give her a personality that we can sympathize with. As it stands she may be reformable ... but I hope they don't.

 

I want Tirek and Chrysalis to remain villains. I do hope the Changeling Queen finds herself sans subjects :)

Interesting opinion. What about Discord though? You did mention him, but you never really said which category he would fit into.


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ummm..... Queen chrysalis for sure...... oh and the mane iac!


Meh, going by that logic you'd think they'd have arrested Luna after what happened with the Elements Of Harmony in Season 1.

but celestia forgave Luna after all.  :please:

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ummm..... Queen chrysalis for sure...... oh and the mane iac!

but celestia forgave Luna after all.  :please:

True, I wouldn't have it any other way, though sadly I doubt they'll ever bring back the Mane-Iac unless Spike finds another cursed comic book.


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No, not really. I'm getting tired of all the villain redemptions, honestly.

Fair enough. it's a little tiring, I guess. But, ya know, kids show, so... Well, they can't really kill them off.


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As far as major villains go, keep them all away from the redemption hammer.

 

Keep that shit for secondary antagonists. Like for example Lightning Dust wants to change her ways because having her current behavior wasn't worth screwing up her chances of being a WB. Just pick someone who'd be more believable 

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The real villain who needs to be reformed are all of humanity. It's truly an evil civilization that must be shown the light of Friendship.

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The real villain who needs to be reformed are all of humanity. It's truly an evil civilization that must be shown the light of Friendship.

Heh. You know what, as humorous and weird as that sounds, It's sadly true. If world peace means converting everyone on earth into a brony... Well, we're screwed.


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Heh. You know what, as humorous and weird as that sounds, It's sadly true. If world peace means converting everyone on earth into a brony... Well, we're screwed.

World peace means ensuring that humanity won't make it across the second universe.

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World peace means ensuring that humanity won't make it across the second universe.

Second universe? Buddy I have NO idea what you're talking about...


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Then you need to get more psychic powers... :-P

 

"I can teach you to control your psychic powers." XD

 

(anyone who guesses that reference gets an imaginary cookie!)


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"I can teach you to control your psychic powers." XD

 

(anyone who guesses that reference gets an imaginary cookie!)

 

Cookies! yay...  :fluttershy:

 

Oh wait, we have to get the reference? Dang it...  :okiedokieloki:

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Cookies! yay...  :fluttershy:

 

Oh wait, we have to get the reference? Dang it...  :okiedokieloki:

Yep, everything has a price... Except friendship.

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Lightning Dust for sure. She was reckless and a bit selfish, but not even all that malicious, let alone "evil". Great candidate to learn the error of their ways.

 

No, but that doesn't mean that they won't be reformed if the writers want them to.

If Starlight can be reformed after almost destroying the time space continuum and brainwashing others in her reeducation camp and enslaving them into her cult, only because her best friend moved away and for no other reason, than anyone can and will be redeemed.

A lot of people say this, so I want to explain why I don't agree with it. Starlight's friend leaving her gave her a bias against cutie marks, which combined with existing personality flaws to lead to the village, which she thought would lead to her ideal society. It was the destruction of her lifelong dream that led her to fuck with the timelines, and it's worth noting that she didn't grasp the consequences of her actions there. And besides, none of that matters, because she was given a second chance because Twilight COULDN'T defeat her. It was a matter of necessity, even ignoring that teaching ponies about friendship is Twilight's job description. Was Starlight turned around too quickly? Maybe, yeah. But it's not exactly absurd that Twilight decided to try, and it's not "just because she lost her friend" - that was merely the first in presumably a long chain of dominos.

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King Sombra was Edgelord Masterflex so no

 

Discord was understandably reformed because he was honestly one of the more fun and interesting characters

 

Nightmare Moon has already been reformed so no

 

Queen Chrysalis is fine being evil, I see no benefits to making her character reformed

 

Tirek is defeated and I don't think he had much that would benefit from being reformed as well

 

Who were the other villians? I've forgotten

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it should be me yes me I need reforming

 

 

naaa I'm only kidding it should either be mrs Harshwinnie or that Critic from that one season 6 episode which I can't bare to think about serious Rarity making the restaurant like the others bad idea get off stage rarity Booooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

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King Sombra was Edgelord Masterflex so no

 

Discord was understandably reformed because he was honestly one of the more fun and interesting characters

 

Nightmare Moon has already been reformed so no

 

Queen Chrysalis is fine being evil, I see no benefits to making her character reformed

 

Tirek is defeated and I don't think he had much that would benefit from being reformed as well

 

Who were the other villians? I've forgotten

None others that I can think of, other than Starlight, but she was already reformed.

it should be me yes me I need reforming

 

 

naaa I'm only kidding it should either be mrs Harshwinnie or that Critic from that one season 6 episode which I can't bare to think about serious Rarity making the restaurant like the others bad idea get off stage rarity Booooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Well, I hope your reforming goes well XD

Well thank you, but I'm only talented in speaking the truth.

 

This man seems like the smartest one alive. We should elect him as our leader in taking down the hierarchy of the reptilian overlords.

Love the LeafyIsHere reference. Congratulations, you're the next Russel Howard XD

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