What MLP episode's lesson(s) do you least like & think it poorly expressed?

[TBD 17,256]

So since we have about 142 episode , which mean there is 142 lesson total, So which out of the 142 lesson do  you least like & think it poorly expressed? and Why?

 

Mine would be 28 pranks later's lesson.

 

Lets be real here, how in the world is a prankster/jokers going knows if a person going to like being prank or not? I think the writer does even know the definition of pranks. Pranking people is alright as long it doesn't hurt anyone and as long the prankster doesn't prank  the same person like a millionth time constantly. Which RD didn't, she basically prank everyone once and her pranks is practically harmless (and clever). I dont get it how anyone would cry about it or be mad at being prank instead of laughing it off like Pinkie. 

 

I think Pinkie is the only sane one here when it come to jokes and pranks. And at least RD acknowledge  that their prank on her was awesome and laugh it off at the end. Basically  the lesson is  RD aren't allow to prank anyone since everyone in ponyville hates being prank on. worst lesson ever.

 

I think the lesson should be "Suck it up."

Edited January 3, 2017 by Satrox

[AlbaTross 1,586]

So since we have about 142 episode , which mean there is 142 lesson total, So which out of the 142 lesson do  you least like & think it poorly expressed? and Why?

 

Mine would be 28 pranks later's lesson.

 

Lets be real here, how in the world is a prankster/jokers going knows if a person going to like being prank or not? I think the writer does even know the definition of pranks. Pranking people is alright as long it doesn't hurt anyone and as long the prankster doesn't prank  the same person like a millionth time constantly. Which RD didn't, she basically prank everyone once and her pranks is practically harmless (and clever). I dont get it how anyone would cry about it or be mad at being prank instead of laughing it off like Pinkie. 

 

I think Pinkie is the only sane one here when it come to jokes and pranks. And at least RD acknowledge  that their prank on her was awesome and laugh it off at the end. Basically  the lesson is  RD aren't allow to prank anyone since everyone in ponyville hates being prank on. worst lesson ever.

 

I think the lesson should be "Suck it up."

In all fairness, she did prank Fluttershy, which she never should have done. Nopony should prank Fluttershy, and no pranks aren't always funny to everyone. I also think Spike's prank was a bad idea since it also cost Twilight a ton of scrolls and I'm pretty sure Princess Celestia didn't know it was a prank. Putting a brick in Carrot Cake's sandwich crossed the line into hazardous. I think that episode could have been handled better but as Rainbow isn't the type to listen to reason the residents of Ponyville clearly had to figure out a roundabout way to get the message across that not everyone finds pranks funny. I suppose they could have tried harder to communicate that with Dashy, but I guess they figured her ego would only respond to a challenge, and then when that didn't work, a prank to top her pranks.

 

If anything Newbie Dash has a much worse message IMHO, because it basically boils down to the notion that all hazing should just be accepted regardless of whether it crosses into the realm of hurtful. The show has always had the occasional dud IMHO, starting way back in season 1 with Boast Busters, which basically dumps on showmanship when the real lesson should be don't be an idiot and bring a giant bear to town.

[cmarston1 5,959]

Starlight Glimmer's reformation in The Cutie Re-Mark comes to mind.

While it was supposed to portray the cliche "everyone has a little bit of good in them" that the villain reformations have conveyed in the show prior, it crossed the line.

With how unbelievably rushed it was, the ending of the episode basically said that you can do as many horrible, horrible, actions as you can, as long as you say you are sorry and you don't have to take any sort of responsibilities for your actions.

With her later continuing to brainwash the remane 5 in Every Little Things She Does into doing her bidding and getting off scott free, that episode also teaches that you don't have to take responsibility for your actions.

[Vlazamal 338]

With her later continuing to brainwash the remane 5 in Every Little Things She Does into doing her bidding and getting off scott free, that episode also teaches that you don't have to take responsibility for your actions.

She took responsibility! She just didn't get punished XD

 

Some kind of punishment would of driven home the message.

[Cleverclover 1,526]

Oh, man, where do I even begin....? 

 

The Mysterious Mare Do Well and 28 Pranks Later - "If one of your friends is acting out, the best possible course of action is to follow their example to make them see how they like it, and then self-righteously act as though they're in the wrong and you're not." 

 

Putting Your Hoof Down - "You can be a massive jerk to your friends, even going as far as to insult their life aspirations, and they'll still want to be friends with you. You certainly don't need to seek them out to apologize. Just wait for them come to you." 

 

One Bad Apple - "If you're being bullied, the best course of action is to recognize that your oppressor has problems of their own, and also recognize that you're simply a therapeutic release for them. But you'd certainly better not EVER take a stand to defend yourself against them! Oh, no! You're an absolutely awful person if you do that." 

 

Tanks for the Memories - "Irrational fear entitles you to cause as much deliberate damage to public or private property as you want. And you certainly don't need to worry about suffering any consequences for it later, because no one will care." 

 

Newbie Dash - "If your peers are persistently taunting you with a nickname you don't care for, just suck it up and get used to it. They totally still respect you. They're just acting like they don't." 

 

Flutter Brutter - "If you lack confidence in yourself, it is your family's job to bend over backwards to help you succeed. And if your family decides to give up on you due to your lack of effort towards helping yourself, just wait until they start feeling sorry for you again." 

 

Every Little Thing She Does - "Taking shortcuts is always preferable to doing something right, especially if those shortcuts trample all over the rights and liberties of another person, or even multiple people. Oh, and make sure you apologize only after being told to do so. People will still want to be your friend, no matter how awful a friend you are." 

 

 

Yeah, this show has had some pretty lousy morals....

[strongwilled_pegasus 5,157]

For me, I think it's the episode where the CMC turned the school paper into a trashy tabloid all in pursuit of their cutie mark, nothing is worth risking friends and family over. I know, I know, they all made up and apologized at the end, and the morel was "the end's don't justify the means",

probably could've been expressed better.

 

I guess the episode rubbed me the wrong way, and I can't even articulate why.

[Luminance 2,186]

Lesson Zero.

 

Your friend goes insane over something and you've only realize it until the consequences comes to realization. Your consideration didn't come into play and you feel guilty.

[Megas 27,765]

The Mysterious Mare Do Well - Don't like how your friend acts? Show them up and humiliate them at every turn! And do it while acting like a bunch of hypocritical and self righteous cunts!

 

28 Pranks Later somehow does everything an awful episode already does even worse - If you don't like what your friends do, get revenge! Do everything that they do, crank it to 11! Lets see how they'll like it! And then act like a bunch of hypocritical, self righteous cunts once again! The moral might as well have been "who needs a good story, competent writing, and likeable characters when you can have fucking zombies!"

 

Both of these episodes can fucking blow me

Edited January 4, 2017 by Megas

[Swifty 249]

Maud Pie

 

We don't share any interests and hobbies with you. You behave like you don't give a shit about meeting us. But you have shown that you love our friend Pinkie for being your sister. So we start to like you as well and call you our friend from now on.

 

Wut? What kind of friendship logic is that?

[Thrond 3,263]

I know this only asks for one, but someone's already gone and started listing, and it's easier than finding the #1 to specify. 

 

Feeling Pinkie Keen - Is this trying to say something about believing your friends? Because I have no idea what it could be saying aside from advocating blind, unthinking faith. At best, whatever this episode is trying to communicate just isn't presented clearly. 

 

Luna Eclipsed - The actual moral which is stated is fine, but the whole thing with Pinkie Pie bothers me. So it's okay to outright exclude and ostracize someone if it's in the name of "fun"? Pinkie never apologizes or faces consequences.

 

(To be clear, why this doesn't bother me in "Newbie Dash" is that Dash hides her anxiety and so it makes sense that the Wonderbolts might not perceive an issue beyond Dash's ego being wounded. Plus, Dash at least comes clean about how she feels at the end, and the Wonderbolts seem to take it seriously, and I just don't think an affectionately unflattering nickname is as bad as borderline ostracism.)

 

The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well - Your boring message about not being egotistical falls flat a little when it only applies to one character and not to others when they boast. 

 

Magical Mystery Cure - On one hand, Twilight seems to have had alicorn princesshood basically forced on her, and is being told she "earned" it as if we should be happy about radical changes to our lives which we never asked for. On the other, treating Twilight like she's earned something when she hasn't done all that much different from her friends, who don't get to become princesses, irks me. Also, the whole deal with cutie marks just furthers my feeling that these ponies' lives are predetermined and their choices don't matter. 

 

Bats! - There's nothing wrong with wanting to get rid of pests, especially if they're threatening your livelihood. Dunno if that's what the episode thinks it's about, but it's certainly how it comes across!

 

Appleoosa's Most Wanted - Same issues as "Magical Mystery Cure," as Troubleshoes's "bad luck" cutie mark disturbs me quite a bit - can you just randomly be saddled with a shitty life, with nothing you or anyone else can do about it? The nice "roll with the punches" message isn't enough to make it less upsetting. 

 

The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone - The whole deal of ponies trying to teach griffons their "superior" values strikes me as deeply questionable. That pony values are basically just "friendship" would help, except that it makes no sense to me that griffons wouldn't find friendship on their own. How did they even have a society in the first place? Am I really expected to believe that griffons would completely forget that and never think to work together in the face of severe hardship?

 

Amending Fences - Remember, if you're worried about a friend and think they need help, the best way to do this is to stalk them and invade their privacy. Even in my most charitable interpretation of the episode, I have trouble seeing this as appropriate. Aside from that, I kinda struggle to grasp what this episode is even trying to say. "Don't neglect your friends?" It doesn't really add to that beyond the cold open. 

 

Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep? - Luna seems pretty traumatized, so asking her to just "move on" strikes me as insensitive, and having that work irks me quite a bit. Were I just picking one "least favourite," it'd probably be this one. 

Edited January 4, 2017 by AlexanderThrond

[LeafFerret 3,382]

Most Rainbow Dash's episodes, because most episodes that she learnt something, the next episode, it seems like she has forgotten what she had learnt and it starts all over, look at Trade Ya!, Rainbow Falls, Tanks for the Memories, etc. Seems like I'm watching the same episode.

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Most season six lessons kind of failed

Mostly 28 pranks later and newbie dash

 

mysterious mare do well

Just like @GlimGlam04 said, rainbow dash episodes have horrible lessons

 

the last roundup

i dont feel like applejack needed to learn this lesson

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,730]

Feeling Pinkie Keen is one that I have never liked. Sure, was Twilight being obsessive? Yes, but even if that is the case, by the end of the episode, she has given up trying to find the answers entirely, when that isn't how the scientific method works. I mean, she could still study the goings on of the Pinkie Sense thing, but not in an obsessive way.

 

Another wonderfully bleh moral mix up was Newbie Dash. Apparently, when a group that you highly respect is treating you like garbage for no reason and stressing you out without justification, it is perfectly fine as long as they do it to all new members and they are the good guys in the end. Hate it, hate it, HATE IT.

 

Those are the two I hate the most.

[PoisonClaw 8,166]

Two old "favorites" of mine in regards to poorly done lessons would be Swarm of the Century and Mysterious Mare-Do-Well. In the first, the lesson is supposedly about trusting someone... except Pinkie at no point gives any of them a reason to trust her, being incredibly cryptic.

 

In MMDW, I think the lesson is something about hubris or not letting stuff get to your head, except I can't tell due to the beyond awful execution. What it comes off more as is: "Are your friends acting like total jerks? Then publicly humiliate them until they fall into depression. That'll show 'em!"