My Little Pony is good, the show i mean, the identity stuff is what i get weirded out by

[Aosera 28]

Sonic fans are more fun. Its sort of good family business. But the overall imagination of personification in MLP is sort of what gay people are to the LGBT,

With Sonic they get together because, well its Sonic we like Sonic games. Its not, we identify as Sonics, and dress up and wanna obectify it. Which is why fans elsewhere generally are more relatable. Bronies are to what furries are, very much into the object of themselves through the show, content wise MLP atleast has that merit of entertainment of if i ignore this obectification of it, furries literally has nothing outside their art and dressup. If it was for drawing and stuff then furries would have had some dignity, but its the same thing in terms of the massive objectification, and not "because we think its cool to draw furry animals and looks fun to do" its more I AM A WOLF. And that stuff.

 

Just wondering what you think?

[Hierok 11,832]

2 minutes ago, Aosera said:

Sonic fans are more fun. Its sort of good family business. But the overall imagination of personification in MLP is sort of what gay people are to the LGBT,

With Sonic they get together because, well its Sonic we like Sonic games. Its not, we identify as Sonics, and dress up and wanna obectify it. Which is why fans elsewhere generally are more relatable. Bronies are to what furries are, very much into the object of themselves through the show, content wise MLP atleast has that merit of entertainment of if i ignore this obectification of it, furries literally has nothing outside their art and dressup. If it was for drawing and stuff then furries would have had some dignity, but its the same thing in terms of the massive objectification, and not "because we think its cool to draw furry animals and looks fun to do" its more I AM A WOLF. And that stuff.

 

Just wondering what you think?

You mean that we try to be better then the rest? 

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

Well, my experience with the Sonic Fanbase has generally been that it's a group of people who can't agree on anything and rather than respecting that, they tend to shout each out and claim their opinions as the "True" ones. Of course, that's only true of a very vocal section of the fanbase, there's also plenty of normal, respectful, sometimes very creative and talented people.

 Most Bronies are just people who like to watch the show, maybe it's their favorite show, maybe it isn't. Some of them like to read the comics and books, some don't, some like to collect plushes and other merch, some don't. Some want to endlessly discuss the show on forums and some don't, but ultimately most of them are just more normal people who like a cartoon about magical horses learning social skills. There's just a vocal section of the fanbase who maybe like to "Identify" as ponies and stuff, but they don't by any means make up the whole fanbase.

Honestly though? That's fine anyway. If someone wants to identify as a pony and dress up or whatever, who cares? As long as they're not hurting anybody, and they're still dealing with their responsibilities, let people enjoy the show however much they want. It's annoying when others force something down your throat, but if they're just off doing their own thing, why care about it?

[Hazard Time 1,127]

I don't really understand your thesis here.  You mention "objectification", which can be summarized in this context as taking a person and reducing them to the status of an inanimate object without personality, but then you mention that bronies actually WANT to be ponies.

That's not to say that this doesn't happen in the brony community, as not only do I see people worshipping characters from the show, but I've also seen people who will go to extreme lengths to hypnotize and condition themselves until they either believe this character is real, or that they are this character, themselves.  However, and you touched on this, neither of these things are indigenous to our fandom, and you can find similar things in nearly every other internet fandom.

[Le Trotteur Sauvage 13,053]

53 minutes ago, Aosera said:

Bronies are to what furries are

I think MLP is like, the safe and clean way to say "Hi I'm a furry you know !"

[GrimGrimoire 4,973]

3 minutes ago, Trotteur Sauvage said:

I think MLP is like, the safe and clean way to say "Hi I'm a furry you know !"

Why is saying "Hi I'm a furry" unsafe and unclean?

1 hour ago, Aosera said:

Just wondering what you think?

That you had a running thought and it never quite came to a stop and collected itself. I am not even sure what YOU think, since you just described just about every fandom in existence and were somehow trying to separate the MLP fandom for doing the same things all fandoms do. Sonic fans dress up and do the same weird shit some MLP fans do, some furry fans do, some Star Wars fans do, some Star Trek fans do... etc...

[Le Trotteur Sauvage 13,053]

1 minute ago, GrimGrimoire said:

Why is saying "Hi I'm a furry" unsafe and unclean?

By that I mean that saying you're a furry is that kind of declaration that can shock people, because people judges, they judges really hard ! A friend of mine was once talking about furry (and mostly the "adult art" of furry) and I now know that I'll never say him that I'm one ! 

[GrimGrimoire 4,973]

It is that type of stereotyping and the spread of it that has led to people being so judgemental. Once upon a time furries used to just be a catch all term for those who enjoyed anthropomorphic artwork, and thinking, roleplaying and dreaming about what it would be like to be an anthropomorphic character.  Now apparently all furries are just into getting freaky with animals, despite the fact a large majority of them have no interest in that at all.

Any fan of a particular subject in my opinion owes it to themselves and their fandom to set the record straight when that type of blabber starts spreading around. True, no one may believe you, but it is better to say, "No you are wrong, that is not how it is" than to just stay silent and swallow the ignorance.

[Le Trotteur Sauvage 13,053]

8 minutes ago, GrimGrimoire said:

It is that type of stereotyping and the spread of it that has led to people being so judgemental. Once upon a time furries used to just be a catch all term for those who enjoyed anthropomorphic artwork, and thinking, roleplaying and dreaming about what it would be like to be an anthropomorphic character.  Now apparently all furries are just into getting freaky with animals, despite the fact a large majority of them have no interest in that at all.

Any fan of a particular subject in my opinion owes it to themselves and their fandom to set the record straight when that type of blabber starts spreading around. True, no one may believe you, but it is better to say, "No you are wrong, that is not how it is" than to just stay silent and swallow the ignorance.

That's cute and everything but, you know that's not that easy, and I don't want to waste my time arguing with people for nothing. I just keep my mouth shut and keep my furryness secret.

[Jeric 46,863]

1 hour ago, Aosera said:

Just wondering what you think?

It's a cute and entertaining cartoon. As far the fandom goes, and fandoms in general, every group has an identity. In almost every fandom I've belonged to I usually step back and watch for a while. Did that with a bunch of fandoms I consider myself a member of, and some that I passed on. I certainly did it here and nothing more similarities with other fandoms, but this one had a few curious wrinkles. 

 

1 hour ago, BasementSparkle said:

Most Bronies are just people who like to watch the show, maybe it's their favorite show, maybe it isn't. Some of them like to read the comics and books, some don't, some like to collect plushes and other merch, some don't. Some want to endlessly discuss the show on forums and some don't, but ultimately most of them are just more normal people who like a cartoon about magical horses learning social skills. There's just a vocal section of the fanbase who maybe like to "Identify" as ponies and stuff, but they don't by any means make up the whole fanbase.

This is a pretty general view on the variety of individuals that make of this particular fandom. There also appears to be a larger than usual amount of mental health issues and general eccentric types. It's too hard to properly analyze that correlation, so I noted it and let that one just ... be.

Now, one element that is definitely obvious to me, compared with other fandom older than MLP, is likely generational and not specifically tied to this fandom as much as it is a broader population. It certainly gets more prominent due to the higher population of individuals who are not comfortable with personal interaction. That particular trait is the  volume of people who take what they hear or read and regurgitate slightly modified versions of what fits their base or evolved belief systems, and how they engage others. Beliefs tend to coalesce, and that part is in every generation. My generation was influenced more by TV and print. This generation, and my kids generation, is influenced more by information internet. The difference? When discussion and sharing of information, values, and beliefs are done in via a medium that tends to subconsciously encourage a person to see another person as a mental avatar (beyond first impressions), it takes a very unique form. Since this fandom owes it's growth to the internet ... it's like a loud beacon that jumps out at me. 

There is also an obsessive nature that individuals who grew up with instantly sharable information have. People who hyper focus on one element of the show, and discuss things only through that lens. During the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, I would find plenty of younger individuals, but few seemed as determined to share their obsessive specialization. Here .... it rains people who have a quirk that is so tied to their identity it finds it's way into almost every post. I also find that with younger individuals who became Star Wars fans post-Disney purchase. The internet may have functionally changed how people process information. Hard to say exactly. 

By and large though, it's just a fandom that is a product of the era in which it formed. From a sociological perspective, it's quite facinating. 

 

1 hour ago, Hierok said:

You mean that we try to be better then the rest? 

 

Well ... 

Earlier on in this fandom, and this is a fairly obvious when you read the tone of several older blogs and comments, it was regularly stated that Bronies are seemingly unique in a few respects. Within its own flavor of apologetics, there was almost this sense that Bronies were more of a movement than just a fandom. An odd concept, but one you can easily see forming considering the novelty of breaking the expected viewing demographics. 

44 minutes ago, GrimGrimoire said:

Why is saying "Hi I'm a furry" unsafe and unclean?

Maybe it's like that show, "You Can't Do That on Television". If you say this sentence, does slime fall from the sky on you? 

If it's water, then it's obvious a clean introduction, but if it's slime the guy may have a point. 

 

[Frostgage 7,976]

Seems like a fairly large generalization. Overall it's unlikely that the MLP fandom is that drastically different from Sonic or any other. I personally don't practice any of the things you stated in your post, not that I have any problem with them at all - what you call weird many people would view simply as a more dedicated/enthusiastic fan

[Aosera 28]

2 hours ago, Hierok said:

You mean that we try to be better then the rest? 

No not at all. Like i think MLP is fun, but in my free time i think video games is fun to talk about. But i notice MLP aswell as furries are much more objectible than like "Oh that was funny" or something. I dunno, it makes me feel weirded out is what i am saying. But then again people like Game of thrones and as a human being i am not into those type of shows, but that doesn't mean i don't get happy when i see people being passionate about it.

[Jeric 46,863]

5 minutes ago, Aosera said:

No not at all. Like i think MLP is fun, but in my free time i think video games is fun to talk about. But i notice MLP aswell as furries are much more objectible than like "Oh that was funny" or something. I dunno, it makes me feel weirded out is what i am saying. But then again people like Game of thrones and as a human being i am not into those type of shows, but that doesn't mean i don't get happy when i see people being passionate about it.

The most active areas of this website have nothing to do with My Little Pony. A salient fact that you may have overlooked in your formed impression. Curiously, your post actually represents the very point I made in my preceding post. The whole, avatar as a reference idea, you just did it. 

[Aosera 28]

Just now, Jeric said:

The most active areas of this website have nothing to do with My Little Pony. A salient fact that you may have overlooked in your formed impression. Curiously, your post actually represents the very point I made in my preceding post. The whole, avatar as a reference idea, you just did it. 

Well i am not critcizing liking characters or admiring them. People probably think i am some old person who is small minded, which i try not to be but its just what i feel and can't help when it goes to the point that its not so much about the show as it is about yourselves. Like maybe i am somewhat jelous too since its like music. Some grew up in the 80s when hair metal was cool, then you get old and Nirvana comes along and you just cannot understand it and you are like 25 and its over (well i listened to some Bill Burr commentary on that) same way with old people.

Like i love that people are massivel passionate about their hobbies, and i hope nobody takes that away from it. I have seen some insanely reactionary youtubers who hates games such as Metal Gear Solid for example which was the bomb on PS2 when i was a 11 year old kid. But i dunno, maybe its because of shame too. Like you could for example say some people would think if you are an adult with a bandana how stupid that would look. Now if you are a teen or a kid then its sort of acceptable more to fool around. Or maybe its the lonliness, as in you don't actually know people you can relate to it.

I am rambling but yeah... You should just do what makes you happy. As the above comment says. It doesn't hurt any people.. well atleast to respectable limits, but you get what i mean

[ShadOBabe 19,013]

10 minutes ago, Aosera said:

People probably think i am some old person who is small minded

LOL, I just love that this was said around Jeric, who is probably like one of the oldest people on the forums. And not small minded in the least. XD

11 minutes ago, Aosera said:

its not so much about the show as it is about yourselves

What’s wrong with that?

We bring our own experiences into our experience with the show, and the outcome is unique for all.

Edited November 8, 2017 by ShadOBabe

[Aosera 28]

1 minute ago, ShadOBabe said:

LOL, I just love that this was said around Jeric, who is probably like one of the oldest people on the forums. XD

I meant as in one who is not open to atleast try to be open to new ideas or new generation of peoples interest. There exists such people, like i used to watch Razorfist or while i have also seen for example Retsupurae commentaries on some games due to grinding in some RPGs that i do. But they tend to have views on what they consider a good game or not which is essentially not compatible to what i like, then again i don't think Chipcheezum or Retsupurae is anti Metal Gear Solid though they do joke alot somewhat respectibly. But then again i do realise that people have different views on what they like and thats totally fine and normal. I think this is the case if you are going to be as an individual on the bandwagon or not, kind of like anti bronies are which exists, but the problem is they probably just have made up their mind and just don't try to listen to the other side of view, and it ends up just cursing and all sorts of negativity. While this is not always the case and i can't like be close minded to people who simply say "i don't agree or dislike eitheR" because its afterall a good thing people think differently is what i am saying. Not that i agree though but its good it essentially exist so that way you can make argument for why you think they are essentially wrong, respectfully of course