When G4 ends, will Bronies and mlp websites still be around?

1 minute ago, Thanos said:

Like

Hearth's Warming Con 2018

http://www.babscon.com/2018/

http://www.whinnycity.com/

https://everfreenw.com/

http://griffishisles.uk/

http://highrollerponycon.com/

http://www.derpyfest.de/

http://trotcon.net/

GalaCon 2018

https://www.crystalponycon.com/

http://everfree-encore.eu/

http://aliconmlp.com/

Ponyville Ciderfest 2018

Since those cons im assuming are smaller, are they less expensive to run? I have to stop worrying. everything will be just fine. (Rainbow dash slaps some sense into me) "OW! Thanks honey." >_>

SDP40F amtrak · August 5, 2018

1 minute ago, ccb20yes said:

Since those cons im assuming are smaller, are they less expensive to run? I have to stop worrying. everything will be just fine. (Rainbow dash slaps some sense into me) "OW! Thanks honey."

You don't worry there another cons than bronycon

ccb20yes · August 5, 2018

Thanks for talking with me. I need to quit getting worked up! I see questions like this asked with other works of fiction. is tf2 dying? is undertale dying? We may not be as big when we began, but we will last forever. atleast until humans go extinct! :derp:

Lucid_Nightlight · August 5, 2018

MLP G4 is unique, and fandom is even more unique. What we should realize is our fandom is a complete and total anomaly!

I want you to think back to before this generation of MLP ever existed. Before this show appeared, if someone would've told me I'd become obsessed with a show called My Little Pony, I'd laugh at them! We all would! But look at us now, on a forums site dedicated to My Little Pony.

We've become part of a fandom born from the chaotic 4Chan, after that, the bronies went hoof to toe with 4Chan and ended up getting a board called /mlp/. We are unforgettable. This fandom and these forums are here to stay.

10 minutes ago, Thanos said:

You don't worry there another cons than bronycon

There's soon to be a brand new con called HarmonyCon in Texas.

SDP40F amtrak · August 5, 2018

3 minutes ago, Lucid_Nightlight said:

MLP G4 is unique, and fandom is even more unique. What we should realize is our fandom is a complete and total anomaly!

I want you to think back to before this generation of MLP ever existed. Before this show appeared, if someone would've told me I'd become obsessed with a show called My Little Pony, I'd laugh at them! We all would! But look at us now, on a forums site dedicated to My Little Pony.

We've become part of a fandom born from the chaotic 4Chan, after that, the bronies went hoof to toe with 4Chan and ended up getting a board called /mlp/. We are unforgettable. This fandom and these forums are here to stay.

There's soon to be a brand new con called HarmonyCon in Texas.

Oh for real

where

Lucid_Nightlight · August 5, 2018

Just now, Thanos said:

Oh for real

where

Crowne Plaza Hotel in Addison, TX is where it will he held. Same place where Nightmare Nights was held.

BornAgainBrony · August 5, 2018

3 hours ago, ccb20yes said:

But, star wars is nearly 40 years old, and it still has fans! Classic cartoon network shows still have fans!

1 hour ago, Denim&Venom said:

The Doctor Who fandom has been going on for 55 years. Before the internet was around to immortalize fans and their subculture.

We'll be just fine. After all, why would they ever end?

Thing that worries me more than either of these, is the apparent lack of interest in Hasbro diving into... what would you call it? "Deep" world building? All of Doctor Who can be considered to be part of the same timeline. Same went for Star Wars, or the films anyway. The EU... that's another story. Would anyone call Star Trek: TNG "Star Trek G2?" Nope. It's radically different in some ways, but obviously a continuation in others. Same for DS9, Voyager... the reboot (that ripped the fanbase beyond recognition) didn't happen until JJ Abrams got his claws on it.

For MLP, I feel like a reboot or a "G5" is completely unnecessary. If they want to make a new show, they would be better off making a spinoff of sorts, a "sequel" series, whatever. Follow different ponies. Keep the backstory, the kingdom. Let the Mane 6 become background characters, maybe with occasional episodes where they play a bigger role. That's what I would do rather than risk causing a total trainwreck. Maybe MLP:FIM isn't a winning show anymore. But it's still a winning universe, with a winning artistic style, with countless stories yet to be told and countless places yet to be explored. Why throw all of that away and risk a massive trainwreck of a reboot?

But yeah. Not worried about the websites. They're relatively cheap to run. I'm much more worried about the conventions. BronyCon's announcement shook me to the core.

Edited August 5, 2018 by bornAgainEquestrian

ccb20yes · August 5, 2018

7 minutes ago, Lucid_Nightlight said:

MLP G4 is unique, and fandom is even more unique. What we should realize is our fandom is a complete and total anomaly!

I want you to think back to before this generation of MLP ever existed. Before this show appeared, if someone would've told me I'd become obsessed with a show called My Little Pony, I'd laugh at them! We all would! But look at us now, on a forums site dedicated to My Little Pony.

We've become part of a fandom born from the chaotic 4Chan, after that, the bronies went hoof to toe with 4Chan and ended up getting a board called /mlp/. We are unforgettable. This fandom and these forums are here to stay.

There's soon to be a brand new con called HarmonyCon in Texas.

Thanks you guys. Its really been great hearing from a little more positive feedback. (no offence) Maybe for my birthday, Rainbow will fly me to france for a honeymoon or something! :laugh: I like to imagine cartoons in my head existing for real, and them being awareof their cartoon shows, and them being actors.

Denim&Venöm · August 5, 2018

29 minutes ago, bornAgainEquestrian said:

Thing that worries me more than either of these, is the apparent lack of interest in Hasbro diving into... what would you call it? "Deep" world building? All of Doctor Who can be considered to be part of the same timeline. Same went for Star Wars, or the films anyway. The EU... that's another story. Would anyone call Star Trek: TNG "Star Trek G2?" Nope. It's radically different in some ways, but obviously a continuation in others. Same for DS9, Voyager... the reboot (that ripped the fanbase beyond recognition) didn't happen until JJ Abrams got his claws on it.

For MLP, I feel like a reboot or a "G5" is completely unnecessary. If they want to make a new show, they would be better off making a spinoff of sorts, a "sequel" series, whatever. Follow different ponies. Keep the backstory, the kingdom. Let the Mane 6 become background characters, maybe with occasional episodes where they play a bigger role. That's what I would do rather than risk causing a total trainwreck. Maybe MLP:FIM isn't a winning show anymore. But it's still a winning universe, with a winning artistic style, with countless stories yet to be told and countless places yet to be explored. Why throw all of that away and risk a massive trainwreck of a reboot?

But yeah. Not worried about the websites. They're relatively cheap to run. I'm much more worried about the conventions. BronyCon's announcement shook me to the core.

They might be trying to reach a new demographic.The youngest of FiM's core demographic will be starting Middle School next month. Their target audience has grown up and the peripheral audience has been declining for years. Hasbro is a business. A toy business. FiM did well, but it won't last forever. They need to make a 5th generation to keep the revenue going. They could make a G4.5, but that would still alienate new viewers and the legacy fan base isn't big enough to sustain the whole company. They need to start fresh with a fresh audience.

ccb20yes · August 5, 2018

2 minutes ago, Denim&Venom said:

They might be trying to reach a new demographic.The youngest of FiM's core demographic will be starting Middle School next month. Their target audience has grown up and the peripheral audience has been declining for years. Hasbro is a business. A toy business. FiM did well, but it won't last forever. They need to make a 5th generation to keep the revenue going. They could make a G4.5, but that would still alienate new viewers and the legacy fan base isn't big enough to sustain the whole company. They need to start fresh with a fresh audience.

Your right. But that doesnt mean we cant still enjoy watching g4 on dvd or netflix. I find it unbelievable how some people watch a certain episode of any show atleast once or twice and never touch it again, regardless how they felt.

BornAgainBrony · August 5, 2018

48 minutes ago, Denim&Venom said:

They might be trying to reach a new demographic.The youngest of FiM's core demographic will be starting Middle School next month. Their target audience has grown up and the peripheral audience has been declining for years. Hasbro is a business. A toy business. FiM did well, but it won't last forever. They need to make a 5th generation to keep the revenue going. They could make a G4.5, but that would still alienate new viewers and the legacy fan base isn't big enough to sustain the whole company. They need to start fresh with a fresh audience.

I'll bring another IP into this just for the sake of discussion. Harry Potter. Their solution to that one was very unique. Grow the characters as the audience grows. It was pretty brilliant, and it worked flawlessly. And now there's new films coming out that are drawing in new fans and... hey look at that... they're not alienating the old ones. Yeah, that's a harder sell for something as fluffy as MLP, but one of the things that makes the show unique are the more serious undertones laying just beneath the surface. Also, the Mane 6 are much more grown up from the very beginning than characters in most shows targeted at little girls. Most shows for little girls have a cast of... well... little girls. The ponies are already matured. They hold jobs. The youngest at the beginning is arguably Twilight, a college student.

Yeah, I get that it's a business. I just see others having little trouble sustaining multi-generational IP's. Maybe Hasbro simply has no interest in being that kind of a company, that caters to more than the K-8 demographic (except when it happens marvelously by accident as it did with Ponies G4). With the merchandise, they barely capitalized on Brony culture as much as they could have. Take Nintendo for example. You can find the Triforce or any other Hylian emblem on pretty much ANY product you want, ranging from t-shirts to wallets. If you want the Equestria "2 sisters" flag on ANYTHING, head over to Etsy. Hay, enough people would have shelled out HUNDREDS for an "authentic" full-size gonfalon on real canvas, supported by poles and ropes. Hasbro could have made FAR more money off of FiM than they did, but they mostly ignored the adults... the people who are just as, if not even MORE zealous than the kids, AND have a lot more money to spend.

"Cartoons are for children" is an outdated concept and some companies still appear to be struggling with that concept. All of Japan never even had that concept to begin with, but the U.S.A. has been particularly stubborn with getting over that hurdle. We're kind of halfway through destroying that stereotype. Disney and Dreamworks sure have it figured out, and I'm pretty sure Disney realized how powerful animation was, way back when with Snow White. For all of Disney's blunders which I could write a whole book about if I had the time, they have a firm understanding of their adult fanbase and give them just as much attention as the children. I get the feeling that Hasbro hasn't figured this out yet; they don't seem to know what they have. The big exception to the kiddies-only attitude might be Nerf, with the Rival line of weaponry... wannabe "airsoft" guns clearly geared towards older players, and not really suitable for children.

Edited August 5, 2018 by bornAgainEquestrian

PacificGreen · August 5, 2018

3 hours ago, bornAgainEquestrian said:

For MLP, I feel like a reboot or a "G5" is completely unnecessary. If they want to make a new show, they would be better off making a spinoff of sorts, a "sequel" series, whatever. Follow different ponies. Keep the backstory, the kingdom. Let the Mane 6 become background characters, maybe with occasional episodes where they play a bigger role. That's what I would do rather than risk causing a total trainwreck. Maybe MLP:FIM isn't a winning show anymore. But it's still a winning universe, with a winning artistic style, with countless stories yet to be told and countless places yet to be explored. Why throw all of that away and risk a massive trainwreck of a reboot?

(emphasis mine)

Honestly, as much as I'm dreading the end of G4, I don't really think G5 will be a trainwreck. They know what works, so chances are they'll mostly stick to what made G4 so magical but still take lots of risks with new elements. Sure, there's a good chance our favorite characters rebooted will be nothing like the ponies we know and love now, and that G5 may not have the stuff that made G4 so attractive, but I wouldn't be too apprehensive about show quality.

That said, I think you echoed a lot of my sentiments pretty well. TBH I feel like the show, while still pretty good, has lost a lot of its magic and may have overstayed its welcome a bit. But we still have so many ponies and stories to look into in this universe; I'm not ready to see that potential thrown away for the reboot quite yet.

Denim&Venöm · August 5, 2018

11 hours ago, bornAgainEquestrian said:

I'll bring another IP into this just for the sake of discussion. Harry Potter. Their solution to that one was very unique. Grow the characters as the audience grows. It was pretty brilliant, and it worked flawlessly. And now there's new films coming out that are drawing in new fans and... hey look at that... they're not alienating the old ones. Yeah, that's a harder sell for something as fluffy as MLP, but one of the things that makes the show unique are the more serious undertones laying just beneath the surface. Also, the Mane 6 are much more grown up from the very beginning than characters in most shows targeted at little girls. Most shows for little girls have a cast of... well... little girls. The ponies are already matured. They hold jobs. The youngest at the beginning is arguably Twilight, a college student.

Yeah, I get that it's a business. I just see others having little trouble sustaining multi-generational IP's. Maybe Hasbro simply has no interest in being that kind of a company, that caters to more than the K-8 demographic (except when it happens marvelously by accident as it did with Ponies G4). With the merchandise, they barely capitalized on Brony culture as much as they could have. Take Nintendo for example. You can find the Triforce or any other Hylian emblem on pretty much ANY product you want, ranging from t-shirts to wallets. If you want the Equestria "2 sisters" flag on ANYTHING, head over to Etsy. Hay, enough people would have shelled out HUNDREDS for an "authentic" full-size gonfalon on real canvas, supported by poles and ropes. Hasbro could have made FAR more money off of FiM than they did, but they mostly ignored the adults... the people who are just as, if not even MORE zealous than the kids, AND have a lot more money to spend.

"Cartoons are for children" is an outdated concept and some companies still appear to be struggling with that concept. All of Japan never even had that concept to begin with, but the U.S.A. has been particularly stubborn with getting over that hurdle. We're kind of halfway through destroying that stereotype. Disney and Dreamworks sure have it figured out, and I'm pretty sure Disney realized how powerful animation was, way back when with Snow White. For all of Disney's blunders which I could write a whole book about if I had the time, they have a firm understanding of their adult fanbase and give them just as much attention as the children. I get the feeling that Hasbro hasn't figured this out yet; they don't seem to know what they have. The big exception to the kiddies-only attitude might be Nerf, with the Rival line of weaponry... wannabe "airsoft" guns clearly geared towards older players, and not really suitable for children.

Just because it's popular doesn't mean the company behind it has the resources to capitalize. Hasbro are a toy company. They don't have the staying power or clout to do anything beyond that. The likes of Lego and Mattel haven't been able to achieve the types of cultural succsess that Nintendo and Disney have. Those are multi-media giants. And toy companies exist to make toys for those giants. They don't use their intellectual properties. The properties use them. The Lego movies may have been good, but everything featured in there wasn't a Lego IP. It was other companies using Lego for their own promotion. Just like how Hasbro now makes toys for Avengers and Star Wars. They don't own those IPs. They don't get to make shows to promote them. They get to do as Disney and Marvel say and do their job as a toy company.

And trying to go beyond what you know is a huge risk. One that investors may not want. Hasbro tried it's hand at shows and movies. And for the most part, they've been unsuccessful. MLP is more an exception than the rule. Same with Transformers Prime. Out of all the shows they made this decade, those are the only two that could be called a smashing success. Everything else has been met with lukewarm responses. You don't see people walking around with Pound Puppies or Littlest Pet Shop merch.

And the movies have met a worse fate. Transformers and Battleship have been critical bombs. GI Joe and MLP the movie were commercial ones. Gem was both. These ventures to move from toy company to cultural land mark haven't been going well. So it might not be worth the risk to expand and capitalize on a niche sub culture. Let other independent companies and fans do the job, and handle that financial risk. It benefits them in the end. They don't have to lift a finger and they're already getting free publicity.

Then again, it could just be the stigma we have. They make toys for kids. Not grown ups.

Look I'm not happy about it either. They should've capitalized more. I'm just trying to make sense of why they don't.

Kevin Tang · August 5, 2018

Ur overreacting m8, The fandom won't die as long as it still have its fans and for the forum, it's MLP in general not only G4 Don't worry!

NathanW200 · August 18, 2018

Well if websites do go from the show ending I hope this website will at least stay I really love this one My Little Pony Forums is my favorite Fandom website this website keeps me connected as a fan to the My Little Pony series if it goes I go I would be very sad to have to leave the fandom but I've made my choice If MLP Forums goes I go

ccb20yes · August 18, 2018

4 minutes ago, NathanW200 said:

Well if websites do go from the show ending I hope this website will at least stay I really love this one My Little Pony Forums is my favorite Fandom website this website keeps me connected as a fan to the My Little Pony series if it goes I go I would be very sad to have to leave the fandom but I've made my choice If MLP Forums goes I go

It doesnt make sense at all to shut these gems down when G4 ends.

NathanW200 · August 18, 2018

15 minutes ago, ccb20yes said:

It doesnt make sense at all to shut these gems down when G4 ends.

You make a good point I trust you it won't go away when the show does

Matraxial Artemi · August 18, 2018

The Bronies, Pegasisters and the MLP Website will be still alive!

NathanW200 · August 21, 2018

On 8/18/2018 at 1:48 PM, Matraxio Artemis said:

The Bronies, Pegasisters and the MLP Website will be still alive!

I really hope your right

Iam · August 21, 2018

No, fandom won't die no matter what. True fans will stay and "non-true" won't. That's my opinion.

================ (digression)

As an opposition to previous generation changes, I would like to have G5 in G4 world, I just had been growing with G4 next to me and such change could be unpredictible not to me, but other people. Maybe Twilight and other mares from the *old* Mane 6 would be on secondary plan, while other ponies (or creatures) on first plan. ~~Plz Starlight be on 1st plan as frequent as poss thx.~~

Edited August 21, 2018 by Iam
*forgot about the topic, ops*

EpicEnergy · September 24, 2020

I'm certain MLP websites will be around for a very long time from now.

Splashee · September 24, 2020

Ponyverse was down for me yesterday morning, do I fear we will all be doomed once Pony Life ends! :lostit:

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