Could Princess Celestia Defeat Superman? Could Other Alicorns/Unicorns?

[FrozenSpark 47]

In Smallville tv series he appears to be vulnerable to magic, at that time he was young but the vulnerability probably remained.

[Cwanky 17,579]

Why is this sounding an awful lot like Superman vs Goku? Or rather X comic book superhero/character vs my personal favorite beloved character?

 

Quick Robin, grab me some popcorn! It's nice to be on the sidelines for once.

Edited August 2, 2015 by Cwanky

[cider float 2,538]

Celestia would have a better chance against say Darth Vader

[Harshreality 60]

Seriously!? Celestia has no chance. Superman is the ultimate character in terms of power and is designed to be godlike and almost invincible. Celestia may be powerful magically, but one Infinite Mass Punch, Solar Flare or Heat Vision and it would be the end. Plus Celestia's solar control means nothing, as Superman absorbs solar radiation, making it useless as a weapon.

[Princess Lona 382]

Not sure if this has already been said, and I'm sorry to be a party pooper, but Celestia and Superman would never fight. They both love peace. Even if they disagreed over something, there is no way one of them would ever do something that would make the other one have to resort to force to stop them.

[DND 2,355]

Actually, taking the magic factor into account, Celestia probably would and could beat Superman in a fight, since magic is one of the few things that he's really vulnerable too. Of course, it could just devolve into an endless cycle of her sending him to the moon and then just having to rinse and repeat once he flies back from the moon, but hey, maybe one of them will get bored and just give up. Or she could just turn him into stone. Personality wise, it's a little trickier. Celestia ably ruling and managing an entire kingdom is certainly more impressive than Superman living as Daily Planet Press reporter Clark Kent, but I gotta say that, although they're both probably equally kind, Supes is a little more humble, and definitely doesn't ever like entertaining himself at other people's expense. Celestia on the other hand, well... there are very good reasons that we've nicknamed her Trollestia. VERY GOOD REASONS!!! So, I gotta say, that I'd probably rather hang out with Superman, since he'd probably have a more pleasant personality... *gasp* maybe we could even get muffins with each other and talk about how we both fight crime!!! That'd be SO AWESOME!!!!

 

Not to mention the possibilities of Celestia's magic ability and knowledge and just magic in general could have Superman (Clark Kent) defeated in numerous ways. Princess Sunbutt horse overlord rules over alien powered by yellow suns.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

No as Superman is far too fast and strong for Princess Celestia to be able to keep up. Superman is not going to fall over due to magical prowess as he has tanked magic attacks and survived them just fine. The whole weakness against magic is greatly exaggerated as he's not especially weak against magic but rather his ridiculous energy field doesn't block magic so he's taking magic at full blast, which again he can tank without it. 

[Luna_tic 120]

What universe Superman are we talking about? Universe 1 and 2 have an extreme weakness to magic, Superman Prime has no weakness to magic, but burns off solar energy much quicker than others.  There's like 49 more universes to talk about, but those are the main 3.  Universe 32 is popular as well, I suppose, but is similar to universe 2 in the Superman aspects.  I digress.  If any Superman other than Superman Prime were to fight any alicorn, or unicorn for that matter, they would lose easily because of their powerlessness against magic.  If Superman Prime were involved it gets trickier.  Celestia could beat him, but it would be at a large cost because it would involve not raising the Sun for an extended period of time and then attacking him once he's weakened.  But if he was wearing his Anti-Monitor armored suit which allows him to store and more efficiently utilized yellow sun energy, then technically the same method could be used and would be the only way to beat him... But This would take way longer than it would take him to rip apart everything on the planet, including Celestia.  Unless, of course, Celestia could somehow have the ability to change the type of radiation from the sun into red solar radiation... This would quickly subdue Superman Prime, regardless of the suit, in a decent amount of time. The post New 52 Superman continuity is another story entirely, so I'll go with the proven and fully established timeline.  So that's my 2 bits.

 

Also, I like Celestia far better than Superman.  He is overpowered and unrelatable.  His boy scout crap drives me nuts and his black and white sense of justice is juvenile.  Plus that power with that sense of justice should lead to more of a Rorschach mindset, so I find his character development unrealistic.

Edited August 5, 2015 by Luna_tic

[CT-1138 3,182]

Not just is Superman vulnerable to magic, but remember he gets his super strength from a yellow Sun, like the one Celestia controls. As Celestia controls a yellow Sun, that means she could potentially also control Supermans ability to use his powers. She could, effectively, render him human. 

[Harshreality 60]

Not just is Superman vulnerable to magic, but remember he gets his super strength from a yellow Sun, like the one Celestia controls. As Celestia controls a yellow Sun, that means she could potentially also control Supermans ability to use his powers. She could, effectively, render him human.

Yes, but Superman's speed means he could easily gain access to the sun no matter what Celestia does. Also, whilst Superman is more vulnerable to magic, he is not nearly as weak to it as Kryptonite, and it is still not enough to kill him, especially given the limit magical abilities of alicorns. Celestia simply could not kill Superman

[CT-1138 3,182]

Who said she needed to kill him? She'd merely have to defeat him. 

[Harshreality 60]

Who said she needed to kill him? She'd merely have to defeat him.

The nature of superman means killing him is the only way of defeating him. He cannot be subdued or detained

[CT-1138 3,182]

The nature of superman means killing him is the only way of defeating him. He cannot be subdued or detained

The Dark Knight Returns comic says otherwise. 

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

This is Superman we're talking about, a character who has no limits!  Celestia wouldn't stand a chance.

[Singe 2,111]

Luna as Nightmare Moon would have a way better chance since she would just blot out the sun anyway and that would cut Superman from his power source. She doesn't even need to know his weakness.

[cider float 2,538]

Luna as Nightmare Moon would have a way better chance since she would just blot out the sun anyway and that would cut Superman from his power source. She doesn't even need to know his weakness.

1. Superman is just as strong at night as he is during the day. That's when the sun is separated by the mass of the earth. The mass of the moon would be a much smaller matter.

 

2. Superman could fly to the sun to recharge and get stronger though it would be unnecessary for this fight.

[Shenron00 366]

No. She may have magic, but I doubt it's strong enough to beat Superman. Even if she was powerful enough, Superman is faster, stronger, and just overall superior in every way.

Well Kryptonite has a magical property so in a way magic does weaken him. Thus being in a magical place like Equestria, he wouldn't stand a chance against Celestia.

Actually, Kryptonite isn't magic. It's the radiation that weakens Kryptonians. Supes isn't weak to magic, he just has no special resistance to it.

[Zhortac 1,474]

If we're talking Superman Prime, no.

If it's just plain old Superman, probably. I mean, Twilight knows polymorphism and transconfiguration magic, so if Celestia can do the same, she could just turn him into an orange.

[Fractured 2,684]

Any standard version of Superman is multiples of the speed of light and capable of outpacing the whole of the MLP universe to a T, and any standard version of Superman has enough raw strength and durability to make this one-sided beyond belief. Any princess that picks a fight with Superman loses before they even knew the match began.

[cider float 2,538]

If we're talking Superman Prime, no.

 

If it's just plain old Superman, probably. I mean, Twilight knows polymorphism and transconfiguration magic, so if Celestia can do the same, she could just turn him into an orange.

That is a possibility. But that begs the question why didn't Twilight just use that on Tirek when they fought?

 

And my memory is a bit hazy but did she cast that spell on a living being once? From my memory it was an apples and orange situation.

Edited August 6, 2015 by cider float

[Zhortac 1,474]

That is a possibility. But that begs the question why didn't Twilight just use that on Tirek when they fought?

 

And my memory is a bit hazy but did she cast that spell on a living being once? From my memory it was an apples and orange situation.

 

Tirek straight up eats their magic. Not to mention when he fought Twilight, he already had the full power of all Earth, Pegasus, and Unicorns. Probably would've of worked well.

[cider float 2,538]

Tirek straight up eats their magic. Not to mention when he fought Twilight, he already had the full power of all Earth, Pegasus, and Unicorns. Probably would've of worked well.

If Tirek could do that he would of absorbed Twilight's magic a long time ago without having to fight the same would go with facing Discord.

 

Tirek had Twilight right within his grasp but instead of absorbing her magic he just flung her to the mountain.

Edited August 6, 2015 by cider float

[Zhortac 1,474]

If Tirek could do that he would of absorbed Twilight's magic a long time ago without having to fight the same would go with facing Discord.

 

Tirek had Twilight right within his grasp but instead of absorbing her magic he just flung her to the mountain.

 

Since that fight was a DBZ reference, what did you expect?

[cider float 2,538]

Since that fight was a DBZ reference, what did you expect?

Means orange --> apple spell nothing more nothing less.

[Fractured 2,684]

Here's a concrete list of of Superman's feats, both post-crisis and New 52. His legitimate feats severely outmatch anything the MLPverse can do.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2a9uba/respect_superman/

If we're talking Superman Prime, no.

If it's just plain old Superman, probably. I mean, Twilight knows polymorphism and transconfiguration magic, so if Celestia can do the same, she could just turn him into an orange.

Here's superman resisting active transmutation. (post-crisis)

 

 

 

He took shots from Shazam, someone his equal in magical abilities (post crisis)

 

 

And he also managed to take a dip in Hephaestus' magically based fire without a scratch on him. (New 52)

 

 

 

And none of this is Pre-crisis, which the OP allowed. This is still a stomp match.

Edited August 6, 2015 by Corona de Adamas