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If you read it, I hope you like it :3 It is based around a discussion a friend had about what would Discord do if introduced to a true evil, sadistic monster.

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I don't really think Discord has been reformed,since you can't be the Spirit of Chaos and conform to society's standards.That would make Discord betray the essence of his being,since the flow chaos is one that cannot be controlled.If it were,then it would be order,would it not?

 

On a lesser point,to all those people who say that Discord is evil...being chaotic does not mean you're evil.He simply wants to obstruct and toy with his surroundings,not destroy them and satisfy his lust for power.He's Chaotic Neutral,doing whatever he feels like on a personal whim.He's not Chaotic Evil because he has not committed any sort of real evil,nor is he Chaotic Good for he has not gone out and help those in any fashion he deems fit.

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I don't really think Discord has been reformed,since you can't be the Spirit of Chaos and conform to society's standards.That would make Discord betray the essence of his being,since the flow chaos is one that cannot be controlled.If it were,then it would be order,would it not?

 

On a lesser point,to all those people who say that Discord is evil...being chaotic does not mean you're evil.He simply wants to obstruct and toy with his surroundings,not destroy them and satisfy his lust for power.He's Chaotic Neutral,doing whatever he feels like on a personal whim.He's not Chaotic Evil because he has not committed any sort of real evil,nor is he Chaotic Good for he has not gone out and help those in any fashion he deems fit.

Ok. So let me try it this way...

Discord is not evil because he is chaotic. He is evil because he doesn't care that his chaos is hurting innocent others. If Discord was just doing pranks like Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie, I'd agree with you. But maybe the problem is the word "evil".

 

What makes someone evil? We could say that not following the norms of a society, if you don't think that there is an objective evil, would be wrong, from the perspective of this society. Sure, it's his nature to spread chaos. But is he so uncivilized that he cannot obey rules? If that's the case, he may not be "evil", but can we agree that he is a "criminal"?

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I think he has reformed. I think all the time Discord just wanted a friend. He is not evil, he just means to create chaos for his amusement. But he learned that you always can't have things your way. He might befriend all the mane 6. I think this change is permanent.

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Speaking of Discord; I've heard that someponies are not pleased that

discord wasn't evil enough.

 

First of all, Discord was never shown to be very evil in the original 2 episodes. He was just creating chaos. If he were evil, he would have just destroyed the ponies with a click of his claws. He wanted to disable their Elements hence the corruption and it was also done for his amusement.

 

Also, the biggest aspect of the episode is the fact that Discord was able to accomplish 2 very important things:

 

1. Make Fluttershy swear to never use her element against him

2. Destroyed all of Twilight's books that hold the spells that can banish him.

 

 

While he does promise to somewhat behave to Fluttershy and Celestia, the fact

is he has officially made it impossible for the others to ever banish

him again unless the others can convince Fluttershy to break her promise

which could be something rather difficult. However, the most important

thing is this:

 

He does not want to lose his friendship with Fluttershy and yet he is not pleased with having to

"behave." If one thinks of it, all he needs to do is "behave" until

 

Fluttershy passes away from old age and then he is free to cause as much

chaos as he wants as he is immortal.

 

Hence Discord's episode had him showing a lot more thought in the future than some ponies may think......

Oh......well.... then won't they all die someday then? So Discord only has to wait until one of them dies and he can wreak  havoc again because the elements are invalid...he's probably not "reformed" but may be deceiving everyone. 


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However you must realize the scale of allignment, Discord was a Chaotic Evil, he was evil but only in the sense he was just dedicated to  messing things up, not to gain power (lawful evil) or to fulfill himself like Chrysalis did (neutral evil) but as a result now he's a chaotic good, he's still chaotic but not messing everyone else up becase he finds it funny.


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I think that a lot of people who consider Discord to be completely Chaotic Neutral overlook one thing:  The way he discorded Fluttershy.  He brute force mind-zapped her because his attempt to bait her into his mind games failed and he got fed up.  He could have done this with any of the others, he just enjoyed playing with their minds and watching them discord themselves, in a sense.  (Pinkie Pie's was rather cruel, IMO).  I don't know if a Chaotic Neutral character would do that.

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I think he has reformed and eventually viewers will learn of how he turned into the creature that he is today. If you can recall Princess Celestia stated once before that Discord was an old Boa of hers so perhaps when they were together Discord started out as a pony but then a curse was put on him which changed him from being a kind hearted pony to the creature that he is today with a personality full of chaos which in turn caused him to forget to know how to make friends up until Fluttershy befriends him. This may lighten up the other 5 to start to get to know him more and befriend him in the end.

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Eh its an interesting theory, but I really don't think I believe in it though. I mean while it does seem strange you have to think about the fact they only had that one episode to use to reform him. I believe he is atleast neutral I mean he probably is lonely and just kinda relied that after becoming friends with Fluttershy, even if he had plans before he forgot about them all after he realized the meaning of Fluttershy's Friendship to him.

 

Just my thoughts on it. Who knows really, we haven't seen Discord show up again yet :P.


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I think he has reformed and eventually viewers will learn of how he turned into the creature that he is today. If you can recall Princess Celestia stated once before that Discord was an old Boa of hers so perhaps when they were together Discord started out as a pony but then a curse was put on him which changed him from being a kind hearted pony to the creature that he is today with a personality full of chaos which in turn caused him to forget to know how to make friends up until Fluttershy befriends him. This may lighten up the other 5 to start to get to know him more and befriend him in the end.

 

 

When did Celestia say that they were together? I've studied the episodes (mostly because I am such a discord fan and I love listening to him speak because his voice actor is awesome!), and she has shown nothing but loathing for him. Discord's only message about their past was that he considered her boring.


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Hmmm...You know, you might be on to something here. However, I think Celestia would be able to see though Discord's plan. So I still think Discord is reformed.


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When did Celestia say that they were together? I've studied the episodes (mostly because I am such a discord fan and I love listening to him speak because his voice actor is awesome!), and she has shown nothing but loathing for him. Discord's only message about their past was that he considered her boring.

I thought Celestia said he was her old boa but really she said he was her old foe. I looked it up. This was in his first appearance of The Return of Harmony. Well foe and boa do rhyme.

 

My bad.  :blush:

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You know, as much as I disliked the episode when it happened, I'm not sure that having another episode reveal that it was all a ruse would be a very good idea.  The episode itself was problematic, but to reveal it all to be some ruse would just make Fluttershy look like a fool. 

 

Plus it would undermine the very message of the episode.  I would love to see the "old" Discord back, but I honestly can't see how, short of some spell being placed on him.

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I think he's reformed, but something will trigger him to become corrupt again.  He's a very prominent character and it is def. not the last time we will get to have an episode about him.


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Discord is pretty much a spoiled child with WAY too much power. Like most children he does have a sweet innocence to him, but when you give them too much power, their selfish desires to have fun overpower their empathy. Discord just likes goofing around at other people's expense. Give any child a ray gun that turns people into frogs, let them loose.. Do you think they'll take the peaceful non-chaotic route and use it responsibly?

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I thought Celestia said he was her old boa but really she said he was her old foe. I looked it up. This was in his first appearance of The Return of Harmony. Well foe and boa do rhyme.

 

My bad.  :blush:

 

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We all make mistakes dear fluttershy! Do not fret though for this agent of chaos has forgiven you and what better time for friendly noogies XD

LOL  ^_^ That is too cute thanks! I do think they should show Fluttershy and Discord visiting each other from time to time, If that happens I bet the other 5 will warm up to him more eventually by getting to know him more.

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