Serrator 20 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 1. Who's stronger 2. Who's more epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,689 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 It's pretty hard to actually answer that. They are basically at the same strength, but Nightmare Moon is stronger to me. Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 Nightmare Moon is stronger, Luna's ego is far too large to even consider selling her soul unless she was sure that she needed that boost. Even with the boost, Nightmare Moon was only even with Celestia 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpWit 2,610 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 Nightmare Moon is Luna summed up in an angry one hit knockout if that makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serrator 20 February 26, 2014 Author Share February 26, 2014 Nightmare Moon is stronger, Luna's ego is far too large to even consider selling her soul unless she was sure that she needed that boost. Even with the boost, Nightmare Moon was only even with Celestia Did you say Nightmare Moon is only even with Celestia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFyr 1,982 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 Nightmare moon seems to be more powerful. Though, I consider Luna more epic simply because of her past, dream-walking abilities, and various other bits that, while maybe not as iconically 'cool', I still consider more epic. Nightmare Moon is stronger, Luna's ego is far too large to even consider selling her soul unless she was sure that she needed that boost. Even with the boost, Nightmare Moon was only even with Celestia Allow me to go on a tangent and compare Nightmare Moon's power with Celestia. Because that got me thinking a tad. Power-wise, from what I gather... Nightmare Moon at least severely threatened Celestia; Celestia used the elements to banish her, and lost her connection to them in the process. 1.) Nightmare Moon had more power than Celestia, and Celestia had to make a sacrifice through another entity in order to have the advantage and take her down. --And if memory serves, there's mention of the magic of the elements being more powerful then either of them?2.) Celestia needed the elements and the sacrifice to banish Nightmare Moon, as we may know taking someone down alive is often more energy-intensive than simply killing them, so it's entirely possible that Celestia on her own could be more powerful, but was simply unwilling to kill her sister, and not powerful enough to banish her on her own. This would put them relatively well-matched, or Celestia not too far above I think. Next event, Nightmare Moon's return. 1.) Nightmare Moon easily overpowered Celestia, and caused her to disappear through some means, meaning that without Celestia's elemental backing, Nightmare Moon outstrips her by a notable margin, allowing her to swiftly end any resistance. ...Assuming Celestia would fight back at full power, which I half-doubt given other considerations. 2.) Celestia anticipated Nightmare Moon's return, and took measures to step aside, disappear on her own account, or go down easier. This could be done if she was both more, or less powerful than Nightmare Moon. It would make sense for either case, too. If Celestia was more powerful, she could defensively sideline herself (or allow herself to be sidelined) and (possibly) still step in if need be, all the while watching to see if her plan for the elements to come back into play would occur. If Celestia was weaker on the other hand, she would need to start setting things in motion well ahead of time so that something powerful enough would rise to meet her sister's return, such as new wielders of the same power that gave her the advantage in the first round. I personally have no clue at all who's more powerful between Nightmare Moon and Celestia. It could go either way in my opinion, depending on how you want to interpret events, or how much credit you want to give to Celestia. That said, Luna and Nightmare Moon. It seems that whatever overtook her also gave her some additional power. If it did not, it likely at least gave her a more single-mindedness resolve to use said power--sometimes a willingness to make something happen whatever the means is more powerful than the power to actually do it. ...Though, then again, I can't say Nightmare Moon seemed that bright, or that prone to forethought. Or, even cruelty in some cases. It seems she passed up more opportunities than would make sense to if she was truly committed to wreaking havoc and misery. I can't imagine Luna making the same mistake as easily, but then she also seems fairly moral-bound and even more unlikely to use effectively-underhanded means to an end. I'm still willing to bet that Nightmare Moon surpassed Luna in raw power, regardless. Sadly there's not as much conflict to really compare the two's potential though. It could work additional power reserves, as per the Alicorn Amulet and Elements of Harmony (sorta), or as akin to mind alteration that allows access to full potential. Bleeehthisgotlong. Commission Thread | Deviantart | Poniverse Tumblr | Art Tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 Nightmare Moon is certainly stronger than Luna as Luna couldn't even defeat Nightmare Rarity without aid, her corrupted possessed version is stronger. In terms of epicness, despite the amount of love Luna has garnered, she really hasn't done much other than let her jealousy get easily controlled by a daemon like being. Nightmare Moon isn't better as she failed overthrowing Celestia two times which involve getting banished to the moon a few minutes after her transformation, and losing to six young adult mares after a few hours possibly of her 2nd rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary S. 102 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 (edited) Is that even a question? Nightmare Moon is stronger, of course. As stated, take a look at Nightmare Rarity. And i'm pretty sure this show follows the formula: Bigger = Magically stronger Luna being stronger than Celestia is already an assertion in contest. Why would Luna even need Nightmare Moon to overule Celestia, if she's stronger from the beginning? Edited February 26, 2014 by Gary S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 @@Serrator, @@SFyr, Here's why I have Nightmare Moon only even with Celestia. Celestia clearly did not want to fight her and was not fighting back. Therefore, NMM had an advantage in mind set. However, when Nightmare Moon hit Celestia(after a lot of missed shots), Celestia was wounded, but it wasn't anything too bad. It didn't even leave a scratch, unlike with Discord and Chrysalis. 2 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostfacekiller39 23,860 February 26, 2014 Share February 26, 2014 Nightmare Moon is stronger, I think, considering she's more angry and driven compared to Luna being much more calm. On the epicness scale, though, it's even. They're both badass, in different ways He who is Positively Obsessed With All Things Rarity!!! Check out the Rarity Fan Club! "Not everyone who is pretty is necessarily beautiful. For those two to come together is truly a Rarity" -Jacob G. Rosenberg Signature by @FadedSkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenPony 279 February 27, 2014 Share February 27, 2014 (edited) There is a big misunderstanding here Nightmare Moon only looked stronger whenever she battled Celestia, was because Celestia never wanted to hurt the sister she loved so much. Therefore she took counsel to the Elements of Harmony (the Elements of Harmony have spirits that surround and bind them together, and these spirits are sentient) and let them decide her fate. As you can see in the S4 introduction and in The Canterlot Wedding Part 2, that she can take alot of damage and recover quickly, yet she is not so quick in attack charging, etc. While Luna on the other side can be seen as the opposite, Powerful quick attacks, but a slow damage recovery rate. I can compare this to (sorry for bringing Star Wars up) when Anakin Skywalker dueled Obi-wan. Obi-wan held back and deflected his attacks before finally letting go of his feelings for Anakin and striking him. Edited February 27, 2014 by TheChosenPony 1 May the force be with you, always Subscribe to my youtube channel, It'll give you a laugh, hell maybe two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim&Venöm 18,633 March 1, 2014 Share March 1, 2014 None of the above. Nightmare Moon and Luna are the exact same creature. Forget the comics, those have been confirmed as non-cannon. You can't be more powerful than yourself. As to who was more epic, well in the shows context, that would be nightmare moon. Having a prophetic legend about you doesn't get more epic. In regards to this fandom however, Luna is much more epic. Just look at all the stories and fanart. She's one of the few characters that contradict the fluffy, frilly stereotype of candy colored horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 March 1, 2014 Share March 1, 2014 (edited) None of the above. Nightmare Moon and Luna are the exact same creature. Forget the comics, those have been confirmed as non-cannon. You can't be more powerful than yourself. As to who was more epic, well in the shows context, that would be nightmare moon. Having a prophetic legend about you doesn't get more epic. In regards to this fandom however, Luna is much more epic. Just look at all the stories and fanart. She's one of the few characters that contradict the fluffy, frilly stereotype of candy colored horses. Just a question, where is this source that the comics aren't canon please as I would like to know? Edited March 1, 2014 by Nuke87654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 March 1, 2014 Share March 1, 2014 @@Nuke87654, In the comics, Twilight's mom is the writer of Daring Do 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 March 1, 2014 Share March 1, 2014 @@Nuke87654, In the comics, Twilight's mom is the writer of Daring Do I see, thank you very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowxWolf66 67 March 1, 2014 Share March 1, 2014 Honestly i thnk nightmare moon has more strength in power. But Luna is so soft and sweet. And dosen't seem like the the the evil or volient type. Luna is very protective of her sister too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpop198 696 March 2, 2014 Share March 2, 2014 In strength Nightmare Moon, in total awesomeness Luna, because the awesomeness will be doubled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown482 0 September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 I think that they are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart1002 40 September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 In "Luna Eclipsed", Luna is shown to possess the same level of magic as Nightmare Moon when she playfully turned into Nightmare Moon to scare the foals at the end of the episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 (edited) In "Luna Eclipsed", Luna is shown to possess the same level of magic as Nightmare Moon when she playfully turned into Nightmare Moon to scare the foals at the end of the episode. The comics showed that Nightmare Moon and Luna are not only separate entities, but Nightmare Moon is even stronger as Nightmare Moon merely possessed an average unicorn in Rarity and yet was able to beat Luna in a one vs. one fight, granted this was a depowered Luna to make it fair and to point out.. Edited September 9, 2015 by Nuke87654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawzy 1,302 September 9, 2015 Share September 9, 2015 Nightmare Moon is a killing machine, Luna is soft and nice....that's pretty much it xD Nightmare Moon wins by default Think For Yourself. Be Yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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