This grinds my gears

[♞RedLotus♞ 360]

Okay so I want to discuss this issue that makes me a bit upset; in fact it makes me more upset than its supposed to. Now hear me out! 

 

Lately I have been noticing that there's a good amount of kids and teens out there who lack social skills and are presumably introverts. As an extroverted social butterfly myself, I can't help but to notice that a lot of these kids claim they have legitimate "medical issues," and use them to justify their bad behavior habits. For instance, I have actually met people who act like total D-bags and claim that they are "Bi-polar, and that they suffer from anger issues, or struggle with anxiety." They talk a lot of trash but then throw temper tantrums when you defend yourself. The worst part is that people actually go up to these people and pamper them like they are freaking holocaust victims. Either way, Its kind of obvious to decipher when a person sincerely has issues and when they don't. (That means that emo rich kids with parents who give them tons of money are invalid.)

 

Now, I'm not a psychologist or anything but all of this seems a bit far fetched to me. I know that there are some poor individuals out there who actually suffer from mental issues, but they actual conditions and not just pseudo social problems. If you are shy, just admit it. I'm tired of hearing people say "Oh I am diagnosed with introverted-ness." Theres a big difference between somebody with autism than an attention seeker who wants to act like they have it hard.

 

Then you have people who say "Oh my child has ADHD hes too hyper active and he runs all over the place."

 

...

 

Look... since long ago children have always been crazy and hyper. Don't try to use an actual disorder that some people have to justify them.

 

Also... just because you are a bit organized does not mean that you have OCD

 

I know there is a good amount of people here who suffer from REAL problems and not this soft science wannabe psychology. It makes me angry that while some people are actually having it bad, you have these posers who try to act like they are victims. 

 

I myself can admit that I fortunately have no problems of that nature. I am picky but does that mean I have OCD? Heck no. I'm shy sometimes but I'm very social so I'm not going to sit here and yap about how I have anxiety or whatever. Its just simple.

 

oh and one more thing before I end this rant... JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE FEELING A BIT SAD ONCE IN A WHILE, OR JUST HAVE A BAD DAY DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE DEPRESSED.

[Scootalove 10,689]

It does make me mad when people pretend to have these problems to justify a reason for their actions, especially when they do something that is considered bad and rebellious. I think it depends on what they do.

[Linux Distro 109]

Tru dat jazz my brotha. You gets an imaginary cookie.

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

I have mild schizophrenia so I tend to avoid people in public.... It's not really an easy thing to deal with, I mean I got a voice in my head that can be a real pain..... On very rare occasions I'll yell and tell them to shut up.... Also you really shouldn't make light of these mental illnesses. Each one has its unique problems, that only people like them deal with. Be mad at them all you want, but I doubt you'd last in the shoes of a bipolar person.

[Taviscratch 453]

The one which annoys me most is when people try telling you they are dyslexic or something...when in fact they're just stupid.

[~Silver Essence~ 2,625]

I understand this now after my therapy treatment.

 

I guess the emotions or overall ambiance of your situation if it was bad tends to best you when you think you have it conquered.

 

Then again, we are all socially akward one way or another, I may be at first, but I tend to be cool and serious likewise anytime.

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

I can understand if they actually have the disorder but if they're faking then that's just stupid.

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

The one which annoys me most is when people try telling you they are dyslexic or something...when in fact they're just stupid.

 

That's...genuinely terrible of you to say.

 

I'm not saying that there aren't people out there who use those excuses, but I don't think anyone should presume the right to know whether someone is "faking it".

 

As someone who actually has OCD and can tell you first hand it isn't something that's easily booted, I can also tell you I'm sick of people of people telling me "to just get over it".

Edited February 28, 2014 by CITRUS KING46

[Guest90210 3,568]

Agreed. I can't stand people who self diagnose themselves with a bunch of disorders and use it to cluelessly lash out on people. In fact, doing so is insulting to people who actually have the disorders.

Edited February 28, 2014 by Rivendare

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

That's...genuinely terrible of you to say.

 

I'm not saying that there aren't people out there who use those excuses, but I don't think anyone should presume the right to know whether someone is "faking it".

 

As someone who actually has OCD and can tell you first hand it isn't something that's easily booted, I can also tell you I'm sick of people of people telling me "to just get over it".

Exactly. What gives you the right to say they are faking it? @OP

[Guest90210 3,568]

I have mild schizophrenia so I tend to avoid people in public.... It's not really an easy thing to deal with, I mean I got a voice in my head that can be a real pain..... On very rare occasions I'll yell and tell them to shut up.... Also you really shouldn't make light of these mental illnesses. Each one has its unique problems, that only people like them deal with. Be mad at them all you want, but I doubt you'd last in the shoes of a bipolar person.

 

You're missing the point. He's not saying anything against people who actually have bioplar disorder. He's saying he doesn't like when people self diagnose themselves with various disorders without any basis and use it as an excuse to act unruly.

[Windseeker 546]

You wanna know what else grinds my gears?

 

When people don't think of the consequences of their actions and plays the victim card as a result!

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

You're missing the point. He's not saying anything against people who actually have bioplar disorder. He's saying he doesn't like when people self diagnose themselves with various disorders without any basis and use it as an excuse to act unruly.

You shouldn't assume anything without evidence, or else risk looking like an insensitive fool.

[Guest90210 3,568]

You shouldn't assume anything without evidence, or else risk looking like an insensitive fool.

 

Couldn't the same be said about the opposite? The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

He's not saying anything against people who actually have bioplar disorder. He's saying he doesn't like when people self diagnose themselves with various disorders without any basis and use it as an excuse to act unruly.

 

A valid complaint, but one that wasn't worded too well.

Edited February 28, 2014 by CITRUS KING46

[Lightning Bliss 1,674]

I admit too I have my little "quirks" but they are a part of who I am and therego don't use them as an excuse if I were to display bad behavior. If I'm being a a-hole it's because something has ticked me off, maybe something that didn't invole a person but just my day in general.

 

I'm OCD when it comes to my work space, this only occured after years of owning another desk and chair that weren't suitable for long term use and I was forced to adjust my chair and desk every day just to get the max ammount of comfort while I work. I suffered from back pains and knee pains before I finally got a proper desk and computer, but as  result, I'm picky about how everything is positioned. This does NOT mean I'm a servere OCD, just a nitpicker I would think at this point.

 

I am also ADD, but it only seems to be related to my work and projects and plans. You know, like I have an idea that I want to do and get started on it, but I end up thinking of another idea and get distracted by that. Perfectly normal for someone who's got a big imagination, I would think in my case I hope?

 

Point is, I don't hide behind those issues, I may blame my lack of understanding some people talking to me because I have a case of Auto Processing Disorder, but that doesn't mean I'll give up on a conversation lol or ignore anyone.

 

So ya I hate when people use their supposed "disibilities" as an excuse for bad behavior.

[Shift 4,272]

I'm not diagnosed with any mental stuff, but I get where you're coming from. I don't like excuses of any kind. Except when I use an excuse. Then it better work.

[♞RedLotus♞ 360]

I have mild schizophrenia so I tend to avoid people in public.... It's not really an easy thing to deal with, I mean I got a voice in my head that can be a real pain..... On very rare occasions I'll yell and tell them to shut up.... Also you really shouldn't make light of these mental illnesses. Each one has its unique problems, that only people like them deal with. Be mad at them all you want, but I doubt you'd last in the shoes of a bipolar person.

i'm not mad at them. I think you misread my post. I suggest re-reading it

 

I'm not here to argue, I just wanted to state a reasonable argument. Nowhere am I saying that I assume that people who claim they have issues are automatically fakes.

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

i'm not mad at them. I think you misread my post. I suggest re-reading it

 

I'm not here to argue, I just wanted to state a reasonable argument. Nowhere am I saying that I assume that people who claim they have issues are automatically fakes.

Sorry I'm too dyslexic to understand your post.

[♞RedLotus♞ 360]

Sorry I'm too dyslexic to understand your post.

Is that so? Well I'm sorry to hear that.

 

Clearly you weren't "too dyslexic" to read the previous comments and post replies to them.

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

Is that so? Well I'm sorry to hear that.

 

Clearly you weren't "too dyslexic" to read the previous comments and post replies to them.

Lol it was a joke. A very bad one... But still joke.

[caramba2654 602]

Well, I think that happens because people aren't what they really wanted to be.

 

For example, let's take a shy boy. He can't go out and make 10 friends per day as all his classmates do. That's who he is by nature. But because he doesn't want to be the "dude that has no friends", he'd rather blame it on a condition than actually accepting who he is.

 

That's natural for everybody. Coming to accept who you are varies from person to person, and some may accept themselves really easily, while others may take years to start acknowledging that they're who they are.

 

I just wish people would feel less pressure to blame it on something rather than accepting themselves, which seems the exact opposite that nowadays' society encourages.

[ChoroChii 284]

Yeah, I'm Autistic and an introvert but I try not to do bad things. Sometimes I do but I'm only human and I apologize and feel bad for that. People who use their disorders as crutches are pathetic and people pretending to have them are even worst.

[Treble Bolt 1,122]

A lot of people use disorders as excuses.This is due to the fact that this culture that basically demands medical/mental reasoning behind any and all behaviors that do not comply with the "norm" of modern society, and this is especially true for children up into young adulthood.  A lot of this is due to primarily two groups, the pharmaceutical industry and the public education system.  If you have a child that is perfectly well behaved, an A or B student, and is involved in extra curricular activities, that child is deemed "normal" and will have a high chance of succeeding in life. If you have a child that is hyper, has a hard time paying attention, has emotional problems, social problems, is an average C or less student, among a plethora of other "indicators" that prove that child to be difficult in ANY way, that child has problems and thus is in need of medication. Medication is the 'quick fix' to all these problems according to the pharmaceutical industry in regards to mental health. They have to label all these problems in order to address them with the best combination of medicine. 

Now what I am saying is the icing on the cake with this problem at the bureaucratic level.  At the personal level, where peers make excuses for their behavior is due to the fact that having a label upon whatever problem they may be having (or not having), allows the majority of people to basically say, "oh, that person has such and such disorder, their actions are not their fault and they probably just need a change in medication to fix it." It's a way for people to not only pity you, but also allows them to not blame YOU directly for your actions/behavior.  The blame is put upon a disorder. 

It's basically like seeing/hearing a two year curse for the first time. You don't punish them because they know they did something wrong. They don't understand or even know what the word they just said even means.  You will tell them not to say it again, but you can't really explain why it's so wrong to swear at their age, so you just tell them and assert that, "it's wrong" and nothing more.  This logic is applied to how people make excuses for their actions, and blaming on a disorder means that they cannot control themselves, just as a two year cannot control what they learn from adults around them.  For the majority, we just say that their behavior is wrong, and them proceed to medicate them saying they are all fixed now.....

THIS IS SICKENING!

 

Don't go telling me that pharmaceuticals are not to blame in this either....they use humans as guinea pigs.  I should know, I was one of them. The foster care system is the perfect place for guinea pigs. Children in the system often come from broken homes and harsh pasts. Because of this, they are highly likely to have developmental and mental disorders. Because of the high amount of children suffering with such problems in the system, the pharmaceutical industry can easily hide what they are doing, because everyone in the system is affected.  Just look up stereotypes of foster care youth.  People expect them to be on medication. I was on 14 different pills at one time, because I was diagnosed with "this, that, and everything in between."

 

On top of that, the FDA is a joke. Any medication they okay for the public has to have a 5% rate of "helpfulness."  So, if you have a new pill to help, lets say severe depression patients, and you have 100 people patake in the studies, if 5 people show improvement and the other 95 do not show improvement or even have adverse side effects (that long list at the end of every pill commercial), then that pill is okayed for the general market, unless a lot of people die or something really bad in these clinical studies. And these studies DO NOT include long term use or side effects. That's why there are pills that suddenly have people suffering years after the fact from when they started taking them. That's why there are lawyer commercials telling people, "if you or a loved one suffered this set of side effects after taking this certain medicine, you may be entitled for a huge settlement."   I am not kidding, just look into all this, there are many resources out there that are congruent with a lot of informational backing.

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

I personally think that it's a hypocritical situation due to the fact that some introverts have a hidden addiction, whether it's games or something of the like.