gaming DEATH BATTLE

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

 

I have to say that I really disagree with how Goku lost in this fight. It's not that he lost it's HOW he lost...I mean come on...Getting his brain fried? That was really cheap...They might as well have just had Superman punch a hole through him...I'm just saying they could've AT LEAST had Superman kill him in a more stylish and epic way so to speak.

 

That's how I felt about Pikachu vs Blanka and Luigi vs Tails.

[Sunny Fox 5,940]

That's how I felt about Pikachu vs Blanka and Luigi vs Tails.

But Luigi DID

have a hole punched in him...

 

[Ruddboy Olaf 10,628]

But Luigi DID

have a hole punched in him...

 

 

Through him. Technically.

 

[Zhortac 1,473]

Really should spoiler that because there are still some people who haven't seen the fight yet.

 

I don't see how...it's a rematch, of something that's been argued to the point of being beyond stupid, and should've just died out years ago. Plus, the outcome should be obvious as all hell, considering how beyond stupid broken Superman is. 

[JamesBobbyDReed 103]

That's how I felt about Pikachu vs Blanka and Luigi vs Tails.

Man what they did to pikachu was an insult to the

whole pokemon fanbase, I hit the wall with my fist four times.

 

im glad they made that up with an entire pokemon

themed episode.

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

New Death Battle ideas:

Mojo Jojo VS Gorilla Grodd
Megaman VS Astroboy
Mewtwo VS Martian Manhunter
Mystique VS Envy (Full Metal Alchemist)
Elektra vs Talia al Ghul
Hit Girl VS Rose Wilson
Fluttershy VS Cream the Rabbit
Prince Zuko VS Roy Mustang
Rarity VS Rouge the Bat
Rock Lee VS Sanji
Roxas VS Dark Pit
Rayquaza VS Omega Shenron
Sakura Haruno VS Tifa Lockhart
Silver Samurai VS The Shredder
Star Butterfly VS Steven Universe
Winter Soldier VS The Red Hood

[Galen 1,354]

So I made a parody profile of SA's Superman on NF xD

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?p=54016912#post54016912

 

 

New Death Battle ideas:

Mojo Jojo VS Gorilla Grodd
Megaman VS Astroboy
Mewtwo VS Martian Manhunter
Mystique VS Envy (Full Metal Alchemist)
Elektra vs Talia al Ghul
Hit Girl VS Rose Wilson
Fluttershy VS Cream the Rabbit
Prince Zuko VS Roy Mustang
Rarity VS Rouge the Bat
Rock Lee VS Sanji
Roxas VS Dark Pit
Rayquaza VS Omega Shenron
Sakura Haruno VS Tifa Lockhart
Silver Samurai VS The Shredder
Star Butterfly VS Steven Universe
Winter Soldier VS The Red Hood

 

Hmm. Most of these would be interesting, but I have serious doubts about a few that I know of.

 

Mystique vs Envy - Really? Envy has superb regen and superhuman stats. Mystique is at best peak human with the only thing making her special is her ability to transform and mimic other people. There's no way she's getting past Envy's true form without becoming paste. I can see why you thought of this, two people who can mimic anything they see, but Envy's powers go well beyond just mimicking.

 

Zuko vs Roy - Both are peak human in terms of stats except for one thing (which I'll mention), but Zuko displays much better control over fire with his bending compared to Roy. Roy can shoot anything from large waves of fire to firebolts with pinpoint accuracy. However, Zuko is skillful enough to redirect any of that and he has at least hypersonic+ reaction timing as demonstrated during his confrontation with Ozai when he shot lightning at him. Zuko can also be scaled to Korra's feat of blocking an explosion in a split second. The timings of both feats were quite similar. Roy doesn't have that kind of reaction timing. Again, I see your reasoning behind this, tho I think if we're going to pit two fire type characters against each other, I'd rather see Zuko go up against Cinder (Killer Instinct) as it would be interesting to see how a firebender deals with a character purely made of fire.

 

Speaking of avatar/FMA match ups, I'd be interested in seeing EoS Korra vs Father.

 

Rock Lee vs Sanji - This might be somewhat interesting as both characters have similar speeds (Massively hypersonic+), except Lee is much stronger (both in terms of striking and lifting strength) and durable (town level vs multicity block level respectively).

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

I have to confess. I thought Whiz and Boomstick were idiots at first. But it looks like they've gotten alot smarter and they really know their stuff now.

I have no idea why they made Doctor Doom Darth Vader's opponent though. He never had a chance. Doom is far more powerful. Why would they do that to Vader? He should not have been subjected to that...

Edited July 20, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Galen 1,354]

I have to confess. I thought Whiz and Boomstick were idiots at first. But it looks like they've gotten alot smarter and they really know their stuff now.

 

I have no idea why they made Doctor Doom Darth Vader's opponent though. He never had a chance. Doom is far more powerful. Why would they do that to Vader? He should not have been subjected to that...

 

> Got a lot smarter

> Still rely on no limit fallacy

 

Asbel pls.

Edited July 20, 2015 by Galen

[Shenron00 366]

New Death Battle ideas

Fluttershy VS Cream the Rabbit

Rarity VS Rouge the Bat

I don't even think the first one would happen see as how they're both pretty gentle. Rouge would win, because she's more cunning and physically able than Rarity in every aspect. She can also fly, so Rarity would have a pretty hard time getting any "punches" in.

Buu being universal is bull. Just because there's a line of text, doesn't mean he is. Not going on the fact Toriyama forgets shit all the time, Goku is probably referring to the fact that if they lose, there's no one else to even come close to being able to stop Buu.

 

As for the MFTL shit, no. There still isn't any evidence of anyone that's not Whis doing that, since every time Beerus traveled, it's with Whis. I've already stated that Whis is, so far, the only character to show FTL travel, not using instant transmission. And I know Whis was training Goku and Vegeta, but considering that he was still trying to drill into their heads their own weakness, and the fact they don't seem to get along as well as they should, I doubt he's even gotten to that point yet.

 

As for the new death battle...it should've been burried already and left alone. Weebs are going to cry and rage, as usual. Superman is OP as fuck, and broken beyond belief. He really has no limits, because if he did, we wouldn't of been graced with Superman One Million...which is the poster child of OP bullshit.

1. Yeah, I agree. 2. Actually, Goku's been FTL since Dragon Ball! This is seen when he stole the World Tournament announcer's sunglasses to counter Tien's Solar Flare WHILE he was using the technique. Last time I checked, Solar Flare is a blinding light . Also, if DBZ wasn't at least light speed, then what does it look like when they use Rapid Movement? 3. I agree, Superman is WAY overpowered, but I don't think of it as too much of a bad thing. If Superman wasn't overpowered, what would be the point of his story? I mean, it's not like Superman's about fighting like Dragon Ball is, it's about a God-like alien living among us Humans. Edited July 21, 2015 by Shenron00

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

I have to say that I don't think Superman could really tank a Kamehameha without any damage like they had him do in that video.

EDIT: Then again Superman is apparently able to control his durability too based on what I heard in one comic. He actually took hits from the Hulk one time and wasn't even flinching.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Galen 1,354]

Isn't that panel pre-crisis? At least SA didn't use any feats attributed to pre-crisis.

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

Isn't that panel pre-crisis? At least SA didn't use any feats attributed to pre-crisis.

It was sort of disappointing seeing that this fight didn't even last as long as their first one and not as many attacks were used. I was sorta surprised they didn't let Superman use his planet vaporizing heat vision. But then again Superman probably didn't do it because he was more in character this time not wanting to destroy Earth again. And Goku didn't give him enough competition for him to resort to his ultimate move the Super Flare either.  But doing that move would have costed Superman his powers allowing Goku to win. I wonder how people would've reacted to that lol.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Galen 1,354]

It was sort of disappointing seeing that this fight didn't even last as long as their first one and not as many attacks were used. I was sorta surprised they didn't let Superman use his planet vaporizing heat vision. But then again Superman probably didn't do it because he was more in character this time not wanting to destroy Earth again. And Goku didn't give him enough competition for him to resort to his ultimate move the Super Flare either.  But doing that move would have costed Superman his powers allowing Goku to win. I wonder how people would've reacted to that lol.

 

At any rate, that feat you decribed still wouldn't have been applicable since Goku is far stronger than Hulk. I wasn't so much disappointed with how short the fight was than with how SA made it look so easy for Supes. Considering they used an amalgamation of DCAU, new 52, Prime AND 1 million rather than just one of those incarnations (they are all very different from each other, something SA ignores either deliberately or because they're stupid, perhaps both considering they even say each new incarnation of Supes is different from the last iirc), Supes should have won because Prime and 1 million are certainly superior to Goku.

 

SA is right in saying that Supes's power is theoretically limitless, but none of his incarnations ever actually reached that stage of limitlessness. Feats such as lifting the book of infinite pages are outliers and really shouldn't have been considered. Not to mention that feat suggests SA ignores the difference between lifting and striking strength. Taking that into account, Supes blitzing through the super Kamehameha was utter BS. Him taking it isn't unrealistic, but consider this. The battle itself is highly inconsistent. Supes says early in the fight that he "felt" Goku's punches, implying they did something to him. Am I supposed to think Goku's basic attacks are stronger than his strongest technique (barring the spirit bomb)? So even within the context of the fight itself, Supes shouldn't have tanked the Kamehameha the way he did. Unless they actually did use pre-crisis feats like the one you mentioned, which really wouldn't surprise me.

Edited July 21, 2015 by Galen

[Zhortac 1,473]

No, the fight is accurate. They even said, like any deathbattle, both fighters will be at their 100% best at the time. Superman at his 100% best, is pretty much OP godmoding. That is why he really shouldn't be in any deathbattle, since it's beyond unfair for anyone to go against him. There might be someone out there who could go toe to toe with him, but it's not gonna be anyone in DBZ.

[Galen 1,354]

100% best isn't the same as hypothesizing where he would be based on hype. The fact that his power is limitless is the hype surrounding him. The "no limit" argument is a fallacy for a reason. The fact is, while his power is theoretically limitless, none of his feats barring a few outliers have ever been omniversal+. Not even SA's Superman's feats could be considered such. Realistically, Superman tanking Goku's Kamehameha should put him solidly in the galaxy level+ or possibly universal level durability, and that's just one example. If SA was actually using 100% Superman, first off they'd use only one incarnation rather than what can effectively be described as a fan-made version of Supes with all the feats attributed to every last incarnation of Supes that ever existed (possibly including pre-crisis), and then they'd only use feats that have been shown in the comics attributable solely to that incarnation they decide to use rather than hypothesize what he can do for themselves based on hype. They almost never do that in any of their other matches. Supes cannot be an exception.

Edited July 23, 2015 by Galen

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Hey guys, I got a question for you. How powerful are the Gems from the Steven Universe? What are their feats?

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

They claim that were using both characters at their maximum potential. If that's true then they would've had to have given Superman his god form as well. But then the fight would be over in seconds. Superman Prime 1 Million is so ridiculously powerful that he could oneshot anyone in DBZ or GT easily.

Hey guys, I got a question for you. How powerful are the Gems from the Steven Universe? What are their feats?

I wouldn't know. Haven't seen Steven Universe. I don't watch it. It's dumb in my eyes.

Edited July 23, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Galen 1,354]

They claim that were using both characters at their maximum potential. If that's true then they would've had to have given Superman his god form as well. But then the fight would be over in seconds. Superman Prime 1 Million is so ridiculously powerful that he could oneshot anyone in DBZ or GT easily.

 

That.......isn't what I'm arguing. I've even said multiple times right from the start that Prime and 1 million would obliterate Goku (and now apparently nu52 can as well after his collapsing a black hole feat), so I don't know what you're debating me for.

 

My point here is that their reasoning is stupid. All the feats that any of Superman's incarnations have demonstrated are measurable and have been so. None of them scale up to Omniverse level, so there's obviously a certain limit that he's reached. Whether or not he'll reach new limits in the future is to be seen, but making an even stronger version than that just for kicks based on the hype that Supes can be as powerful as he (or rather his writers) wants is a logical fallacy in these types of arguments.

 

Let me emphasize this simply.

 

I'm not against Superman winning. I'm against SA's logic.

 

I hope that was clear this time.

 

Let me put this in a way that DC fanboys will (hopefully) understand.

 

Goku is known for always breaking limits. No matter what that limit is, he's always broken it. From that perspective, there's no knowing just how powerful Goku can become because he's always getting stronger. Does that sound similar to someone we know? He's demonstrated feats that go only to a certain point, but if we play with the fact that Goku can (and likely will) get stronger than what has been shown, what's wrong with having a Goku that reached his absolute max potential fight against Superman? We know that he hasn't reached his utmost potential because said potential keeps growing.

 

So how is it ok to limit him on his established showings while making Superman stronger than his current showings would suggest? First off, SA had no reason to do so. Superman's Prime and 1 million incarnations are already stronger with their showings compared to Goku. Secondly, using the logic that Superman hasn't reached his utmost potential means the same has to be applied to Goku. SA is imagining a version of Superman that has reached his absolute max potential but limiting Goku to his current showings rather than using a version of Goku that has his max potential after said potential has stopped growing to its fullest. That's the kind of sh*t logic SA used.

Edited July 23, 2015 by Galen

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

That.......isn't what I'm arguing. I've even said multiple times right from the start that Prime and 1 million would obliterate Goku (and now apparently nu52 can as well after his collapsing a black hole feat), so I don't know what you're debating me for.

 

My point here is that their reasoning is stupid. All the feats that any of Superman's incarnations have demonstrated are measurable and have been so. None of them scale up to Omniverse level, so there's obviously a certain limit that he's reached. Whether or not he'll reach new limits in the future is to be seen, but making an even stronger version than that just for kicks based on the hype that Supes can be as powerful as he (or rather his writers) wants is a logical fallacy in these types of arguments.

 

Let me emphasize this simply.

 

I'm not against Superman winning. I'm against SA's logic.

 

I hope that was clear this time.

That post was not directed at anyone. If it had been I would've quoted them. I agree with you.

 

I also thought it made no sense for Superman to say that he felt Goku's punches but yet completely tank his most powerful Kamehameha like it was nothing. Their logic is quite broken at times. Kirby VS Majin Buu is another example. While I do agree now that it was right for Superman to win against Goku I still strongly disagree with Kirby VS Majin Buu. Even with Power-Ups Kirby would still not stand a chance against Majin Buu. Buu has the strength, the speed, the durability as well as the techniques to easily deal with Kirby and his attacks.

Edited July 23, 2015 by Asbel Lhant

[Fractured 2,683]

Hey guys, I got a question for you. How powerful are the Gems from the Steven Universe? What are their feats?

There's actually a lot of debate about this:

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1029700

They have a lot of potential outliers, but their most consistent seems to be wall level from being kicked/punched/beaten in,through, or around solid walls and surfaces, and MHS from Garnet dodging lightning in one episode.

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

Speaking of Steven Universe if he's ever in Death Battle Star Butterfly totally needs to be his opponent.

[cider float 2,537]

I'm a bit iffy on Death Battle using god-like overpowered characters or 4th wall power applying characters to begin with. These should be the rules.

 

1. Characters that break the 4th wall shouldn't be used in matches. They're just not to be taken seriously and then there's the confusion if their 4th wall powers should be applied or not. Ex) Bugs Bunny, Deadpool

 

2. Characters that are overpowered beyond reason and only make them lose or win based primarily on the plot. Ex) Hulk, Goku, Doomsday, Superman, Juggernaut, Dr. Manhattan

 

3. Characters that don't have enough information to go around with.

 

Oh and Goku might have a better chance if he could emit magic into his projection attacks or his next form gives him magic.

Edited July 23, 2015 by cider float

[Fractured 2,683]

They claim that were using both characters at their maximum potential. If that's true then they would've had to have given Superman his god form as well. But then the fight would be over in seconds. Superman Prime 1 Million is so ridiculously powerful that he could oneshot anyone in DBZ or GT easily.

Actually not the strongest Superman. CA superman above Megaversal tier. For the record:

Megaversal>Multiversal>Universal

And he was created specifically to beat Mandrakk, who was already past Megaversal level himself.

[Sazama Ichida 2,365]

Actually not the strongest Superman. CA superman above Megaversal tier. For the record:

Megaversal>Multiversal>Universal

And he was created specifically to beat Mandrakk, who was already past Megaversal level himself.

W-W-W-W-What!?!? You've gotta be shitting me...