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There are some things I dislike about the MLP comics from what I researched about them online, however one thing I did like was them showing Queen Chrysalis to be more evil or darker. There's a greater scale of good vs evil in that story, that's one thing I do get behind, because in the show they watered down the evilness of Chrysalis so much that outside of the threats she made toward Mean Six, she was an ineffective villain who could not even coordinate a full scale assault without Tirek and Cozy Glow later on. A proud Queen of the Changelings should not even need them to do this.

 

It's as I said before if Disney can get away with their villains being evil, Hasbro can too. Sometimes it feels like patronizing the audience when I watch modern shows, back when I was a little child I had no problems with villains like Scar and Jafar existing in Disney films. They were malicious to the core, but never to the point people could not handle even at that young age.

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I stand by my opinion. My Little Pony Friendship is Magic would have been far better as an action and adventure fantasy, instead of slice of life.

I cannot be engaged in a story that is too afraid to show their villains getting dark when the plot calls for it. I'm not into stories where individuals have an argument out of unimportant things as if it's a soap opera, that's part of the reason why there are certain types of anime I avoid.

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I know I should not get too upset about this one since it is just fiction but I want to clarify my point in what I would expect of a villain like Queen Chrysalis

Here, in the comic version, she kills a kitten in front of Cutie Mark Crusaders, that's evil, that shows she does not just make threats, she intends to carry them out and will do if she is not stopped. That's why it irked me that the show version watered down this villain so much, sure, she made death threats and had a mean temper, but all that amounted to nothing when she cannot make bad things happen. Mean Six episode was a jester because of that.

and I genuinely believe Slice of Life shackled the story telling in a way that negatively impacted characterization.

 

r/mylittlepony - That time Chrysalis killed a kitten in front of three children

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I think I may go back to watching Transformers soon, I did say the other night I wanted to watch Transformers Energon and despite its flaws I liked that TV series overall.

I'm not in the mood to watch Sonic SATAM at the moment but I will see about doing that in future. I like fiction that is fun escapism, and Slice of Life just does not do it for me because it reminds me of the putrid war bound world I cannot stand to live in, the same one where people let petty distractions and arguments prevent them from actually helping. Action and Adventure are my favourite genres of fantasy.

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Perhaps I have not been fair with some of my criticisms of My Little Pony FIM. I just did not like the characterization of Chrysalis later into the show

she would have been portrayed as more oppressive or more of a tyrant if she had done away with Mean Six for mutiny, instead of Mean Six simply offing themselves by activating magic on a tree.

Queen Chrysalis was a total non threat in that episode. I'd have a different opinion about her if she carried out her threats to "destroy and start over" as a result of her anger boiling over, that would have made sense if they were going with the disobedient prankster route with the writing. It's hard to find engagement with a story when villains are comic relief. In a comedy cartoon show like The Mask Animated series that would be acceptable, the villains are intentionally written to be funny and buffoonish, but in MLP FIM I'd expect villains to be more edgy than that.

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11 minutes ago, Dawnshine Wonder said:

Perhaps I have not been fair with some of my criticisms of My Little Pony FIM. I just did not like the characterization of Chrysalis later into the show

she would have been portrayed as more oppressive or more of a tyrant if she had done away with Mean Six for mutiny, instead of Mean Six simply offing themselves by activating magic on a tree.

Queen Chrysalis was a total non threat in that episode. I'd have a different opinion about her if she carried out her threats to "destroy and start over" as a result of her anger boiling over, that would have made sense if they were going with the disobedient prankster route with the writing. It's hard to find engagement with a story when villains are comic relief. In a comedy cartoon show like The Mask Animated series that would be acceptable, the villains are intentionally written to be funny and buffoonish, but in MLP FIM I'd expect villains to be more edgy than that.

Nah yeah late era Chrysalis was written like a joke, the writing direction reaaaaally suffered in the last seasons and Chrysalis got some of the worst of it. Part of me thinks it's because they took away her subjects (and... prettified them because unconventional appearance = evil? uhhhh not a good thing to express lol) and a queen is nothing without her subjects, without her horde she's just a tall crazy old lady with freaky magic :eww:

But honestly they did her so dirty, I don't know what was going on behind the scenes in the writing team because they wrote as if they had ran out of ideas but considering how many super creative and fun FiM fanfics there are out there I don't think "there's no more ideas to explore" is a good excuse. I am forever grieving the fact we never got to see Pinkie have an ep with Discord causing mischief - he outright said Laughter is his favourite element and Pinkie loved his chocolate rain :laugh: it seemed like such an obvious matchup for some kind of ep so I'm surprised they never did that...?

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17 minutes ago, Raskolnikov said:

Nah yeah late era Chrysalis was written like a joke, the writing direction reaaaaally suffered in the last seasons and Chrysalis got some of the worst of it. Part of me thinks it's because they took away her subjects (and... prettified them because unconventional appearance = evil? uhhhh not a good thing to express lol) and a queen is nothing without her subjects, without her horde she's just a tall crazy old lady with freaky magic :eww:

But honestly they did her so dirty, I don't know what was going on behind the scenes in the writing team because they wrote as if they had ran out of ideas but considering how many super creative and fun FiM fanfics there are out there I don't think "there's no more ideas to explore" is a good excuse. I am forever grieving the fact we never got to see Pinkie have an ep with Discord causing mischief - he outright said Laughter is his favourite element and Pinkie loved his chocolate rain :laugh: it seemed like such an obvious matchup for some kind of ep so I'm surprised they never did that...?

Agreed. I've been thinking through some lines for Queen Chrysalis to use in my own MLP FIM fanfic later on, one of them as she lets out a sinister cackle while her victim in her grasp is struggling to get free and cries for help "I'm predator, you're prey, deal with it!" as a cold hearted line she uses as she sucks down the life force of her victims with her emotional energy drain ability. I might not decide to outright off characters in this story, but I can write the story in a way where if they did not receive medical attention in time or the assistance of magical healing, they would expire from exhaustion, meaning she is capable of making it lethal, if she desired. That is one way I can make her to be edgy, and is more in line with how she is in the official comics. Late show version of her, quite frankly, sucks.

 

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