Why are we afraid of naked people?

[SkyDream 315]

I heard something weird the other day.

 

"Why do we have skin?"

 

"So we don't vomit whenever we look at one another."

 

Even hair can get so tangy as to look ugly, but nobody cares about hair. I don't get it.

[baltoist 303]

why the hell are we even talking about this

[Dattebayo 2,850]

why the hell are we even talking about this

For the glory of Satan, of course!

[Malinter 3,064]

humans started needing clothes because our ancestors moved north where are furless asses were useless against the cold, they became so used to it that they even started wearing clothes even when it wasn't cold. Then the idea of being nude being wrong feel into the hands of crazy people with a book and people have whined at their fellow men wanting to be naked ever since.

[Hastur 505]

"but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die."

http://biblehub.com/genesis/2-17.htm

 

Two problems with this. The first is that it includes the knowledge of good. The second is that Adam and Eve never died. Either this is a mistranslation or a Biblical plothole. 

No, they died, He meant they would become mortal and death would enter the world. Death just wasn't in the earth before Adam and Eve ate of the tree. Plus the Bible never said it was an apple to however thinks it was an apple

Edited April 30, 2014 by L Kuraokami

[ReverseFaller 2,484]

I know I'd feel awkward around other people if they were naked. If I was naked myself, I'd be embarrassed beyond belief. I'd be trying to cover myself up. Seeing other naked people would just feel wrong. Growing up in America is probably a reason I have this stance on the topic. I wouldn't want to see naked guys, as it would gross me out a little bit. Naked girls would be hard to not stare at. 

 

Some cultures are different though. In Europe, it seems like a topless woman isn't some Sexualized taboo thing. It seems common, though I could be wrong. Japan's bath houses involve nudity. I remember one time I was at a community pool, and there were tons of naked guys in the changing room. I found it pretty nasty. Again, this is probably due to the Western culture I grew up in. 

 

Anyways, this may just be me but I prefer clothing to nakedness. I find clothing to more "attractive" than wearing nothing at all. For example, I prefer swimsuit girls to naked girls. Naked people just seem so boring. 

[SparklingSquirrels 21,366]

I wouldn't say I'm afraid of naked people, but they do seem out of place (especially if in public).

 

One reason why I like wearing clothes, is because there are some really cool clothes out there. I like being able to express myself in what I wear each day, and proper clothing makes me feel comfortable. It's something that I get to choose and put together, almost like an art form. (and yes I am a girl)

[Silver Letter 1,832]

Let's let the murderers run free then, we shouldn't enforce morality on them!

 

 

What? I'm not sure if you are aware, but no one cares if a girl buys boy toys and no one cares if a boy buys girl toys either.

 

Nature is the one doing all the enforcing 

Morality and law are not the same thing. Law that exists to punish those that commit aggression isn't morality. We don't imprison murderers because they are evil but because they violated human rights. As for nature and toys, nature has nothing to do with gender. Gender was an invention in order to categorize people more easily. In nature, there would be no such thing as gender. Who cares about it? Those that grew up with the manipulative culture that benefits governments and corporations.

 

 

 

If it's fascist to not want to see d*cks and butts every time I walk outside

It is fascist to impose your beliefs on others.

 

 

But in Japan, all pornography is censored by the government, and is punishable by fines if you posses or make uncensored pr0n.

You can thank the American occupation government for that. Before WWII, the Japanese culture did not forbid what would be called pornography today. To them, it was a form of art and expression.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Morality and law are not the same thing. Law that exists to punish those that commit aggression isn't morality. We don't imprison murderers because they are evil but because they violated human rights. As for nature and toys, nature has nothing to do with gender. Gender was an invention in order to categorize people more easily. In nature, there would be no such thing as gender. Who cares about it? Those that grew up with the manipulative culture that benefits governments and corporations.

 

No? Well, here's a natural fact. In many mammalian species, the male is typically dominant due to being stronger, particularily in primates. Therefore, men are better at spatial reasoning

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

No? Well, here's a natural fact. In many mammalian species, the male is typically dominant due to being stronger, particularily in primates. Therefore, men are better at spatial reasoning

 

All natural behavior is not related to the current sexual culture known as gender. While females may have greater stamina, they are not encouraged to express it often. Essentially, gender has nothing to do with human biology.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

All natural behavior is not related to the current sexual culture known as gender. While females may have greater stamina, they are not encouraged to express it often. Essentially, gender has nothing to do with human biology

Greater stamina? Greater pain resistance yes, greater stamina, no 

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Because Your mother. That's why.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

Greater stamina? Greater pain resistance yes, greater stamina, no 

Is any resistance to outside stimuli or physical weakness a form of stamina? For example, females have a greater resistance to poisons.

[SkyDream 315]

Because Your mother. That's why.

I can see the potential merit inherent to this response.

[FlutterDash4072 189]

Because while we like looking at naked people who fit our sexual preferences, we don't like looking at naked people don't. And there are a ton of people no one wants to see naked at all.

[Eloquence 2,076]

Complete nudity in public places would be unsanitary for obvious reasons, but i don't take much issue with nudity in appropriate places or with a "skimpy" manner of dress.

 

It should be noted, however, that at least parts of the nudity taboo is total bull. For example, the belief in the US that womens' breasts are obscene, but mens' chests are perfectly acceptable? What the hay is up with that? There is no reason why men and women should be treated differently in this situation, and there is no logical reason for women to be more ashamed of their chests than men, or need to cove them while men do not.

 

Of course if anyone of any gender wants to cover their chests that's cool. I just don't think it should be a gender-based requirement.

[CT-1138 3,184]

It should be noted, however, that at least parts of the nudity taboo is total bull. For example, the belief in the US that womens' breasts are obscene, but mens' chests are perfectly acceptable? What the hay is up with that? There is no reason why men and women should be treated differently in this situation, and there is no logical reason for women to be more ashamed of their chests than men, or need to cove them while men do not.

 

Of course if anyone of any gender wants to cover their chests that's cool. I just don't think it should be a gender-based requirement.

The irony is that some men have manboobs just as large as any woman's.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

Morality and law are not the same thing. Law that exists to punish those that commit aggression isn't morality. We don't imprison murderers because they are evil but because they violated human rights. As for nature and toys, nature has nothing to do with gender. Gender was an invention in order to categorize people more easily. In nature, there would be no such thing as gender. Who cares about it? Those that grew up with the manipulative culture that benefits governments and corporations.

 

 

 

It is fascist to impose your beliefs on others.

 

 

You can thank the American occupation government for that. Before WWII, the Japanese culture did not forbid what would be called pornography today. To them, it was a form of art and expression.

1) Well, if you REALLY want to site unevolved lower-life forms, Gender is, in fact, a very prevelant and important part of nature.

Lions fighting other male lions for the right to mate with all the females of the pride, groups of chimpanzees specifically targeting the females of the rival chimp "gang" for death to "natural selection" them out of existance,  male angler fish who essentially worship the females to convince them they are worthy of mating...even the crossdressing fish species that does so to trick bigger males into mating with them so they don't maste with the females they chose.

 

2)  A "belief" that people should not walk around with their balls hanging out is hardly fascist.

Don't you think that there's a reason that even hardcore nudists don't complain?

 

3) The Japanese also carried out a governmnt sanctioned mass-raping of all Chinese women during the pre-WW2 invasion of mainland China. Just saying...they aren't exactly the picture of decemncy.

Because Your mother. That's why.

Actually, yes, I would very much not want to see my mother naked at ALL, let alone 24/7

[Hive King 2,001]

Is any resistance to outside stimuli or physical weakness a form of stamina? For example, females have a greater resistance to poisons.

Stamina, in my book, is how long you can exert yourself

[Eloquence 2,076]

1) Well, if you REALLY want to site unevolved lower-life forms, Gender is, in fact, a very prevelant and important part of nature.

Lions fighting other male lions for the right to mate with all the females of the pride, groups of chimpanzees specifically targeting the females of the rival chimp "gang" for death to "natural selection" them out of existance,  male angler fish who essentially worship the females to convince them they are worthy of mating...even the crossdressing fish species that does so to trick bigger males into mating with them so they don't maste with the females they chose.

 

2)  A "belief" that people should not walk around with their balls hanging out is hardly fascist.

Don't you think that there's a reason that even hardcore nudists don't complain?

 

3) The Japanese also carried out a governmnt sanctioned mass-raping of all Chinese women during the pre-WW2 invasion of mainland China. Just saying...they aren't exactly the picture of decemncy.

Actually, yes, I would very much not want to see my mother naked at ALL, let alone 24/7

I think you're confusing gender and sex with your first point. Animals behave in the ways you described because of their instinctive desires to pass on their genetic material, not because they perceive gender the way we humans do.

 

Of course the subject of gender is not what this thread was even made for, but given that it's a discussion about bodies i suppose it was bound to come up *shrugs*

[Dattebayo 2,850]

I think you're confusing gender and sex with your first point. Animals behave in the ways you described because of their instinctive desires to pass on their genetic material, not because they perceive gender the way we humans do.

 

Of course the subject of gender is not what this thread was even made for, but given that it's a discussion about bodies i suppose it was bound to come up *shrugs*

Not at all, I wan't confusing it.

Gender is KING in the animal kingdom. Did you read the one about chimps?

[Radiance64 7,053]

It's just indecent, our society is civilized and if everyone just ran around naked there would be no sense of decency anymore and perversion would reign free.

Besides, we clothe ourselves to keep warm, I mean people living further north could not possibly run around naked. Plus we just need the protection, our genitals are quite fragile after all.

[Eloquence 2,076]

Not at all, I wan't confusing it.

Gender is KING in the animal kingdom. Did you read the one about chimps?

I read all of them, but they all relate to biological sex and are related to passing on genetic traits. Non-human animals, as far as we know, have no concept of gender. A chimp of a fish does not think to itself "i am a male, and i act and present myself in a certain way to show that i am a male".

 

I mean i'm iffy on how all this relates back to nudity still, but meh.

[Dattebayo 2,850]

I read all of them, but they all relate to biological sex and are related to passing on genetic traits. Non-human animals, as far as we know, have no concept of gender. A chimp of a fish does not think to itself "i am a male, and i act and present myself in a certain way to show that i am a male".

 

Yes they do, all the time! Why do you think a lion fights for the rights to the pride? For male dominance.

They definitely acknowledge gender. They even act upon or segregate based on it.

[Eloquence 2,076]

Yes they do, all the time! Why do you think a lion fights for the rights to the pride? For male dominance.

They definitely acknowledge gender. They even act upon or segregate based on it.

A male lion defends his pride because in doing so it secures mates and therefore future offspring. It has nothing to do with the animal actively thinking it has to be dominant by virtue of its "gender".

 

Sex-based animal behavior is based on the inate desire to pass on an individual's traits, and they behave out of instinct in accordance to their biological sex and social standing in the group. Gender, by contrast, is a matter of perception of the self, and something that humans are currently the only species known to possess as a concept, though it would be an extraordinary find indeed if conceptual thinking of that nature were discovered to be present in another species.

 

And much as i love to prattle on about animals and such, i do believe we're beginning to derail this thread...