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I've noticed similar development in the other Mane characters. Twilight has seemingly overcome some of the more OCD aspects of her personality, or at least made it so they're muted to the point where they won't cause problems. Rarity has gradually become less vain and self-centered. Pinkie is... Pinkie, but she hasn't had a full-on psychotic episode since The Last Roundup. And Fluttershy is becoming more self-confident. She's still got a long way to go. "Baby steps", in her own words. But the best thing about her is, no matter how her personality changes for the rest of the series, we can count on her being just as adorable as she is now. -
Just finished putting together my first MLP: CCG deck. My Mane character and card protectors: Good ol' Fluttershy, making my deck more adorable.
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Again, the animation isn't necessarily a representation of how they think the fight would actually go. They design it to look cool and show off what they learned in their research. Sometimes that results in things seeming a bit... off. (See Batman-Spider Man for an INCREDIBLE example of this.)
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I understand being somewhat baffled by how the animation progresses, but that's not always going to make sense. The winner is determined by their research. The animation is simply designed to look as cool as possible. (Whether this one succeeded in that regard, I'll leave up to you.) They explain in the outro that in all of the possible simulations of the fight, That data point is the only thing that matters in the end. Had that data point gone to one of the other two, they would have been the winner instead.
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Because Fluttershy is way too awesome for him and she deserves much better, that's why. (Note: Even my 12 year old self couldn't get over how worthless of a protagonist Ash was, but that *was* 14 years ago now. So maybe he's changed since then. But if he hasn't... yeah. )
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Make that AND, Sugar Cube. My numbers might be a little off, but I'm pretty sure this round got about half the votes of the original tourney's final four round. So it's safe to say there were a LOT of people who either didn't know about this new thread or didn't care. In that scenario, the first people you're going to lose will be the ones who were the least directly engaged. And judging by the number of pics and vids going up as visible signs of support in the discussion thread, it's also safe to say that would be the Flutter flock. Quite a few of us just showed up and voted, and didn't feel the need to do it all again. (ESPECIALLY after Fluttershy came out ahead in that final round vote on Sunday. I think that might have at least a few people thinking "who cares, we already won".) There's a lot of possible explanations for the lack of turnout, and I'd guess the best answer is "a little bit of all of it".- 190 replies
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Yeah, I had them beating Villanova and going to the Sweet 16, but that was it. Incredible run by them.
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March Madness and the Rarijack Effect
Bhending the Rules commented on Sunny Fox's blog entry in Sunny Side Den
I suspect the final round vote didn't "control" for alliances as much as you might think. AJ's supporters got in early, and so did Fluttershy's. When they jumped out to an early lead, Rarity and Pinkie fans could have easily thrown up their hands and said "what's the point?" And quite a few of them obviously did. Pinkie was at over 50 votes at one point, and then steadily declined over the last few hours. People who voted for her were deleting their votes and switching to a second favorite. In effect, it became an AJ-Fluttershy rematch, because by the end Rarity and Pinkie weren't even in the game. The only way you could totally control for alliance voting is to make it so people couldn't delete/change their votes. Personally, I think the Rarijack effect was small, but enough to shift the outcome of those last few matches due to how close they were. The perception wasn't helped by how it seemed like nearly EVERY SINGLE AJ/Rarity fan was campaigning for the other as well. I'm sure that some Rarity fans were voting for Fluttershy and some AJ fans were voting for Pinkie... but I'd be lying if I said I could name any of them. XD -
I have no problem with how XFizzle handled that, except that he apparently decided to make all four be co-champions before the final poll was even put up. If that was his plan the whole time, it would have been best to just forgo the championship round. That final vote was apparently just him trolling everyone. And while the intentions were sound (imo), the execution was fumbled. The last thread proves it: people didn't get the point he was trying to make. They just got more bitter about the whole thing. The mods didn't delete everything, btw. The post about Rarity/Fluttershy's slave dungeons was still up, last time I looked. Oh, and there will be another one of these in just a few months. The MLP Forums World Cup. Hopefully, the guy in charge of that takes the right precautionary measures to make sure something like this doesn't happen there.
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One of the mods revealed that there was actually only one fake/duplicate account. The allegation came after someone found out that the site had a bunch of new members, but it turns out they were all different people and not all of them were voting in the polls. So that was a relief. I can't be too bothered by how that ended. Yes, it's reasonable to conclude that Fluttershy had the most fans of anyone in that forum (pretty sure alliance voting kept AJ and Rarity in the game), so by that measure we "won". And that's good enough for me. If anything, the co-champion conclusion can be taken as a wrist-slap for the people who took the tournament (particularly the final rounds) WAY too seriously. And I'm entirely on board with that sentiment. Until we reached the Final Four, that thread was a lot of fun. Hopefully it comes back next year, and stays that way the whole way through.
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Yeah... given how well organized and energetic the Rarijack folks were on the original thread compared to everyone else, a Rarijack final (and an AJ win in said final) is pretty much a done deal in a thread that won't be as closely followed by as many people. Put my vote in anyway, but I know better than to expect any other outcome.
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I understand your frustration with how this has ended, especially with how AJ had a win snatched away and the one she beat now appears to be on the verge of winning the whole thing on the re-vote. But your last sentiment is one I can't agree with. In fact, I go in what feels like the opposite direction: I'll consider all of them winners. All four scored impressive wins on their way to the Final Four. (Flutters over Luna, AJ blowing out Dashie, Rarity over Twilight, and Pinkie blowing out Derpy.) And all four sides brought an incredible energy to those Final Four matches. Everyone was rallying their respective sets of fans and trying their absolute hardest to get the W. Everyone here is a winner, save for the few who brought the negativity in here at the eleventh hour. But they're all gone now, so I don't feel the need to dwell on their presence anymore. -
Just woke up, who advanced to the title match? *looks at poll* Oh, my. Oh @@Doctor XFizzle, you clever boy. *walks into Flutter Corps locker room, looks at team* Well, fillies and gentlecolts, I guess we can consider this our revive. Great moments are born from great opportunities, and this... this is a great opportunity we have been given. Win or lose, our journey ends here. But as we go out on this field for one final time, forget about the drama of yesterday. Forget about the haters. And most importantly, don't get caught up in winning or losing this match. Instead, hold your heads up high. Be proud of what our team has accomplished. And most importantly, remember what got you here. None of the things our team did would have been possible without the dedication of the fans of the kindest, most adorablest, all-around-awesome pegasus in Ponyville! Unleash it, one last time. And if each of us are at our best again in this match, it doesn't matter what the scoreboard says at the end, I think we're all gonna be winners. So get out there and take it.
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The poll on this match will close early this afternoon. Probably about 5-6 hours left, as I write this. Given that the Rarity fans are going near unanimously to AJ, and vice versa, I'm surprised BOTH Pinkie and Flutters are holding up so well. Might there be a backlash vote against the quite visible Rarijack alliance? Maybe, and if that's what it takes to knock them off I'm fine with that.
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First, the mods have restored my faith in humanity, somewhat. Thanks for that. Second, I'm done having my sad now. While I was at my second job and heard news of Flutters facing a double-digit deficit, I heard a distant voice. Gradually, it grew more near... until its message became clear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ix03iJm3Bw Flutter Corps, we have rallied. We have rallied again. And we have rallied YET AGAIN. In the face of an unstoppable force and insurmountable odds, here we stand. WE CAN STILL WIN THIS! RISE, AND MAKE OUR FINAL STAND! SEE HER THROUGH TO THE FINALS!!!
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NO. HE IS THE GREATEST. THE GREATEST OF THE UNIVERSE!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5xXFZC4JA4
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Wow... just looked over the posts I missed while at work, and this just got... sad. Seriously, the negativity that swirled in here... legitimately saddens me. I almost can't bring myself to care who wins now. I've gone from looking forward to seeing the results, to looking forward to this being over. It's a shame a few, uh, "enthusiastic" folks had to do... "things". Thanks to all who didn't participate in that, and tried to keep things positive.
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Now now, we need to let the people over in Asia sleep right now. They'll get in here in due time, don't worry.
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On a non-partisan note for a second, wow, it's only noon where I'm at and already almost 100 votes. AJ got 120 votes last round and it was a blowout. Whoever wins this one might need 120 votes just to squeak by.
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We don't need to post pics for everyone to know how awesome she is. Her adorableness and other assorted fantastic epicness speaks for itself. All we need to do is say "watch the show". *ahem* Seriously? No one should be surprised. As I said earlier, the AJ fans are the most passionate and energetic on the board. And yes, there are probably a lot of Fluttershy voters voting without commenting. What can I say, we're the silent majority. We have some pics and vids on hand, should we need them later.