Tiina Brown

I haven't seen much of KR Double (the episodes related to the KR Decade endings), but i had seen enough to get a great laugh when the *hahaha* picture came to Luna. :D :D I disagree.Ok, Dash as the Cap is far from perfect, but personality-wise they are all as close as possible. Rarity is better as Tony Stark/Iron Man than Dash would be. Why? Both characters are rich snobs, with a caring core to their personalities. Fluttershy ... no, she's not really that good as a Hulk/banner. Not even as a Hulk with Banner's full prescence.

Mind you, the bravado with wich Doughnut Joe delivers his sculpture, is also typical to modern anime hero/villain presentations,Ok, perhaps it wasn't delivered with a typical phrase or such, but the energeticness certainly were there.

But then, i tend to more or less disregard eveything that Saulus/Paulus has written ....And even though he in a way was correct, it still doesn't say that God self is even the slightest at war. I have no problem with using fitting pronouns for God. I say God or Godself, simply. After reading your reply to Eenohay, i noticed that you have a bigger understanding of religion than i first got the impression of. I especially agree on the quote from Futurama. Your last comment to me also shows that, since most religous ones one tend to hear from, would say that my reasoning is incorrect, since they think that God cannot be as much with an atheist, as with a "beliver" .... such as themselves, usually. Really, i think God may have created Atheism ... but some claim that is a possible insult towards both ateists and believers ... /////////////////////////////////////// Anyway, to get back to the thread's topic: this kind of understanding shows that humans would not automatically cause problems in the MLP-world.

"Little to no restrictions" ..... And most chooses to be ... Alicorns, just to abuse the power, even to the extent of freeing Discord "just to chill with him"?!!!!! Time for someone to put their hoof down! If it just were one such, then Celestia might do something worse than just a banish to the moon ... It there would be too many for her to handle, she'd might hide, to let all the power-hungry fight it out ... ... and then go in and dispose of the rest. /////////////////////////////////// What i would be .... Perhaps in Equestria, i could be the singer and showoff i always wanted to be .....

Who or what says that God is at war with anything at all?Who or what says that God is a "He"? Talking about offensive and disrespectful ... It may just as well be, that the reason why God doesn't reveal all the glory, is because God actually respects the atheists, as i see it. Also, this argumentation is off-topic ... .. Or is it? This could be an argument against including humans ...

You are correct enough for me to not wanting to try reasoning with you further, but as i see it, you are not correct enough for me to say that you are fully correct.We clearly have different viewpoints on what is arrogant, and what may seem arrogant .. and not. When asked clearly, as you see it, you also answer clearly, i admit that, but then, i never questioned that, either. An arrogant comment doesn't mean that the one who said it is fully arrogant, either. Also, i will now leave this discussion, since it is off-topic for this thread. ... Perhaps i should have left this argumentation before ... perhaps i shouldn't have posted this reply either, but ...

And how long do you think it took for someone to learn the morse code?Not to mention how long it takes to learn to hear the small instances of silence, and differ them from the long distances ... or how slow those messages must have been to make once, compared to how speedy they are today ... And then consider that the ones operating the "typewriters" is fillys and colts.

Ok, i stand corrected in the case of syllables, i'm not completely fluent in english, obviously ...I thought of it as the letters rather than the syllables .. but that should be obvious by now. I may also stand corrected in the definition of efficiency concerning the comparison berween the x,y, -syllable grid and morse, since morse also requires learning the letters through it. Oh, and if you get a "what" it may be because most of your description was hard or even impossible to understand. Ok, someone less confused and/or more articulated might instead have said "Um, could you please explain what you just said?" However, some might expect that they will just get another explanation that they won't understand anyway, and in that case, they just do like you: Since they don't expect much of an improved response, they just express a "what", and let that sufficce, and thereby, the haven't wasted any effort if they don't get any response.

Incorrect.A simple "what" do not have to mean "WTF", it is also used as "i don't understand". I could have written that "what?", since i'm not always as articulated as right now. I did not see your first response as arrogant, but the bolded part is definitely arrogant. However, your schematics to show what you meant, worked to get me to understand what you meant, but i fail to see how that solution could mean that 4 presses would result in 8 or 9 syllables .... unless the "commonly used letters"-area really includes common letter combinations ... or, more probable, common words. It still seems like a cumbersome way of doing it to me, though, and morse would be, if not more probable, then at least more effective. To only have one key would make the morse harder to understand and write... And the idea of Binary would technically also just need one button, since it is noted if it is "off" or "on". I think the other option you present is more probable, though.

Once i thought MLP were rubbish ... and at that time, it was. I think humans in MLP would be fully possible, the question is not what is included, but how it is included. In this th thread i have read different reasons why humans should not be included, and those reasons has been of varying quality. I'll adress those i remember: * G1 had humans, and look at what happened to it. ... Well, judging from bronies that has managed to compare the different Generations ... and from Lauren Faust, G1 is the best generation of the "older" ones (before Lauren). So that is not a good argument against humans in MLP. * Sonic X included humans ... But ... as usual, do correct me if i'm wrong ... wasn't a big part of the Sonic X story put in the "human" world? If humans would be put into MLP, then it would be humans in the pony-world. Those two are thusly not comparable. * Humans are greedy, petty, and squabbling types. Ok, 1: Not all humans are like that, and some might be so just because they feel forced by society to be so. 2: .... and that is different from some in MLP ... how? As noted, greedy, petty, and squabbling types exist in Equestria, too. * Humans would not fit (in). Really? They fit into G1 .... They exist somewhere in MLP's history, so why wouldn't they fit? * ... It wouldn't feel right ... As vague as it seems, i consider this to be one of the better arguments, but as i have seen in several comics and a few movies and series, it is not what you include, but how it is included, that decides whether it feels right or not. * The humans would remove the focus from the ponies. This is what i consider to be the strongest argument against humans in the current version of MLP today. Why? Humans are still very much human-centered, and would quite possibly even choose any human over a pony. If humans would get included into MLP consistently again, it would be yet another generation, or at least another .5 one. What i personally think of humans in MLP? Special Movie, MLP 4.5 or later, or fanfic. I would not bury the idea, though. I also like the idea of including adult Megan and/or Molly, though (see post above) ... or perhaps their daughters? ... But, it better be for just a special "double-episode", to see what the reactions would be.

I think like this, when it was time for the human children to leave Dream Valley for what seemed to be the last time, they didn't really want to leave, without ever coming back ....So, some source of great magic were sought out, and the wish for the ponies and human children were made true, to never have to depart (while alive). The result? Ever since, humans that came there, also turned into ponies. Also, a very special Alicorn were born..... While the "G1 cast" were off protecting the area from enemies, other human children came, socialized, and partially copied the world they came from .... they had the shapes of ponies, but moved very much like humans .... and they became G2. Between the original ponies inability to handle those "newponies", to the newponies introducing petty squabble and whatnot, i think several things may fit in, from G3 & G3,5, to the building of Discord, and the following years of frost .... during which a second alicorn was born. And then, Celestia reached maturity. If anyone find holes in my reasoning, and extrapolation, please do point them out .. or even better, seal/repair the holes!

I can't brohoof the above quoted post enough!It was more or less exactly what i intended to say in this thread ... + some more i agree with! However, i have only one further thing to point out: As far as i know, the first Incarnation of MLP included human children, and the ponies were ... ponies, with no upright walking (do correct me if i'm wrong). The second Incarnation, there were no more human children, but the ponies now could stand and sit like humans. They were also childish, in a different way, inside some town, village, or so. What had happened inbetween? Had the pony- and human - forms somehow blended together? If so, how? Why? Even though the inbetween incarnations were rubbish, i like the idea of somehow adressing the "History of Equestria" in some way. Knowing the lack of plotexplanations during the 80's, i assume it never were explained how the human children came there.

I'd expect Hasbro to have just as much or little issues with this as when EO were still being truly worked on.There had been some contacts made between EO and Hasbro, though, and this may easily have put these contact attempts back some notches, though.

I just thought i'd check up on Equestria Online ..... and i find ... This? It is ... depressive. It is wierd, and still just seem like a logical conclusion .... I mean, the main creator, the original driving force behind the project, Raindrop, was absent, and put ... Swebow in charge to govern it. Swebow had no idea what vision Raindrop truly had, and instead worked out a Code of conduct together with the entire team, to make things flow. The Code of Conduct was essentially akind of standardized democratic ruling. Then Raindrop came back. According to him, he was constantly downvoted ... his vision seemed to no longer matter, or be of interest or value to the others. He may have exaggerated that part, but i don't think he exaggerated too much. From his view, his visions was either no longer interesting, or they were no longer "his". Most in such a position is under massive stress, even if it doesn't show. People under preassure tend to grasp even tighter at what they do have .... Intelligence? Reasoning? ..... When i, myself, is under too big preassure, my normal skills at reaoning and logical thinking is greatly decreased .... or, if you want a more well-known example, look at Twilight when the tree is crashed in during the AJ & Rarity sleepover, and in "It's about time" ... as i see it, this might explain why Raindrop seemed, or did, get "totalitarian", he had no idea how to cope. ... And eventually, he held on to the last thing he "had" ... the name "Equestria Online". From Raindrop's explanation, or rather from the fact that he thinks he can manage to start up EO again ... i see that he is hurt. Massively hurt. And the only thing i can say, is that, in this case, love and tolerance is needed from both directions ... I wish all involved good luck, and enough clearity of mind to work this out, because, as i see it, this is not really over yet.