gaming Link is a christian

[ShintX 180]

Wow i didn't know that

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Christianity

I loved "Zelda: A Link to the past" game. Its one of my favorite games of all times on SNES.

I mean i kinda knew that the guy in the sanctuary with glasses and hat was a priest, and hearing that music and seeing the red banner reaching for the alter and the benches, and the music in the background. I was thinking that this was a church.

 

 

 

 

But i kinda feel its insulting calling the bible to book of magic. I mean atleast change it to book of miracles. Since magic is something oneself does, while miracle in theological monotheistic understanding is something that god does for you.

 

Other Source:

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Book_of_Magic

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Cross

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Valley_of_Death

 

Now i suddently feel religious for a Zelda game

I mean this game is great!

Edited November 9, 2014 by ShintX

[PROJECT: Simon 3,955]

Oh my gosh. I love zelda games more than ever now. 

[Twilight The Creator 298]

Seems a bit unnecessary to me, but then again I've only played one Zelda game.

[RAGESTAR 479]

1. You guys do know that the Link's in every game are all different, right? Well, other than OoT and Majora's Mask Links, but other than that, their all different people.

 

2. Note that it says before the creation of the three goddesses. Which means that it's no longer a relivent religion in Hyrule.

 

3. I do find it quite interesting, however, that the Link from ALttP has such a connection to real life...I wonder, does that mean Jesus was a Hyrulian in their world?

[ShintX 180]

1. You guys do know that the Link's in every game are all different, right? Well, other than OoT and Majora's Mask Links, but other than that, their all different people.

 

2. Note that it says before the creation of the three goddesses. Which means that it's no longer a relivent religion in Hyrule.

 

3. I do find it quite interesting, however, that the Link from ALttP has such a connection to real life...I wonder, does that mean Jesus was a Hyrulian in their world?

I think Nintendo just gave up on christianity after Ocarina of Time. That's probably the last time it mixed it into a Zelda game. Y'know.

 

Temple of Time, pretty much a cathedral. I mean they did pay some sort of tribute to that in Twilight Princess, but not much Zelda games are like that anymore. I think that was the last one. It seems it has put a different approach from Skyward Sword and outwards.

 

 

I think with Wind Waker was were they started with all different mixture of fantasy, without focusing on medieval periods in Zelda games.

 

Its a shame though, i really enjoyed the medieval Zelda games to be honest ^^

Edited November 9, 2014 by ShintX

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All links are different people, with splitting timelines each following in the paths of their predecessor link. There's a video on it, but I'm too lazy to find it. Now this religion thing, I'm not so sure it stays consistent between Links.

[Nulln 755]

That's pretty weird.  I can see it, though.  Glad they gave that up, because I really like the goddesses.  

[RAGESTAR 479]

I think Nintendo just gave up on christianity after Ocarina of Time. That's probably the last time it mixed it into a Zelda game. Y'know.

 

Temple of Time, pretty much a cathedral. I mean they did pay some sort of tribute to that in Twilight Princess, but not much Zelda games are like that anymore. I think that was the last one. It seems it has put a different approach from Skyward Sword and outwards.

 

 

I think with Wind Waker was were they started with all different mixture of fantasy, without focusing on medieval periods in Zelda games.

 

Its a shame though, i really enjoyed the medieval Zelda games to be honest ^^

OoT was my alltime favorite, tbh. It had everything a great game could ever want, and was like a suped-up fusion between all of the good things of the past LoZ games.

[Shanks 10,816]

You are reading a bit too much into this and also as was pointed out each Link in each Zelda game is a different one. Skyward Sword explains how this happened and why.

[ShintX 180]

Zelda games don't have timeline. Its not Metal Gear Solid to say the least. Each game differs from that and that.

 

There is no timeline in Zelda games, with exceptions of Zelda 1-2 or Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. But usually its a new game and a new story in each one.

 

Kinda like GTA. No connection, just the same formula with new stuff. Steal cars, drive planes and do missions with another character. Unless it is like GTA Vice City and Vice City Stories

That's pretty weird.  I can see it, though.  Glad they gave that up, because I really like the goddesses.

The triforce was representing.

 

The father, the son and the holy spirit.

Trinity in their world. Which in Zelda story is the three goddesses.

 

True story

Edited November 9, 2014 by ShintX

[Shanks 10,816]

Zelda games don't have timeline. Its not Metal Gear Solid to say the least. Each game differs from that and that.

Actually, they do they released an actual book with an official timeline. It is extremely complicated and convoluted but it does in fact exist.

 

http://www.hyrulehistoria.com/

[ShintX 180]

Actually, they do they released an actual book with an official timeline. It is extremely complicated and convoluted but it does in fact exist.

 

http://www.hyrulehistoria.com/

Probably some nerds trying fit their story wishes into it with some convoluted heir legacy crap

Edited November 9, 2014 by ShintX

[Silver Letter 1,832]

Since the character lives in a fantasy world, the existence of real world religions does not compute. In other words, Link can't be a Christian.

[Unr3alGamer 230]

Since the character lives in a fantasy world, the existence of real world religions does not compute. In other words, Link can't be a Christian.

But it can still have themes based on Christianity. 

[GuillermoGage 246]

But it can still have themes based on Christianity.

 

I actually have indeed, now with Skyward Sword, interpreted the Legend of Zelda series as being an inherently counter-nihilistic entertainment franchise. It has these idealistic, at least vaguely right-wing ideals about what is just and good versus evil and despairing.

 

And yes, for the first three games in the series, Christianity in some vague mild generic form was the intended religion of the series,

But all that stuff is generally probably just decoration, the same way us Westerners throw around the yin-yang of Taoism because it looks "cool". But the overall right-wing philosophy... I interpret this from Skyward Sword especially.

 

EDIT: herp a derp, I redundantly included the exact same link in the opening post, I have backspaced it away now.

Edited November 9, 2014 by GuillermoGage

[Vemillia Nightshade 2,247]

I will admit that there are always some sort of religious symbols in the Zelda games. Did you know that the Islamic symbol was the original symbol used for the OOT Mirror shield? Even with these references to religion, it's unrelated to the game world's religions. Also do keep in mind of the constant, Link is never the same person with the rare execptions of LOZ, LOZ 2 Adventure of Link, OOT and Majora's Mask.

[long gone 8,929]

You guys need to try out "Zelda Ocarina of Time version 1.0" Its the best!

 

Ganondorf is a muslim. I knew that guy was too evil to be true

http://zeldawiki.org/Gerudo_Symbol#Ocarina_of_Time

 

So what i get from Zelda is that.

 

Link is an honest hylian crusader trying to destroy the evil islamic Ganon who has his Gerudos as servants.

And when Link needs to rest, he can just return to "The Temple of Time", aka Cathedral.

You are reading way too much into this. The Islamic imagery (and infamous chanting in the Fire Temple) in Ocarina of Time was there because Nintendo didn't know what it was until after the release of the game and were subsequently replaced in v1.1 of the game. It means absolutely nothing towards real-world religions and Zelda. As for Christianity, have you seen any crosses in The Legend of Zelda beyond A Link to the Past? Any other imagery that relates to Christianity? No? Okay, there's the Temple of Time, which resembles a church, but beyond that? Nope. The established religion in The Legend of Zelda is based around the three goddesses, and any references to Christianity are moot now.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Daring

[ShintX 180]

You are reading way too much into this. The Islamic imagery (and infamous chanting in the Fire Temple) in Ocarina of Time was there because Nintendo didn't know what it was until after the release of the game and were subsequently replaced in v1.1 of the game. It means absolutely nothing towards real-world religions and Zelda. As for Christianity, have you seen any crosses in The Legend of Zelda beyond A Link to the Past? Any other imagery that relates to Christianity? No? Okay, there's the Temple of Time, which resembles a church, but beyond that? Nope. The established religion in The Legend of Zelda is based around the three goddesses, and any references to Christianity are moot now.

I agree that it started to fade away when Wind Waker came(Think they experimented on Majora's Mask too with that). Thats when i think Nintendo was like "Screw it, lets just focus mostly on fantasy and fun stuff now in Zelda games, while before it was mostly medieval cool stuff.

Edited November 9, 2014 by ShintX

[Sir Hugsalot 9,350]

No offence, but looking for christians in a fictional world, where a God does not even exist is... stupid. 

 

I am all respectful for people's beliefs, but please don't force religion in such games. Some of game design may be based on church, but that's it. You will see such inspirations everywhere, with such logic we can say that human race from Heroes V and VI is christian because they have angels and archangels and crosses and fight demons despite the fact they worship Elrath. 

 

Many games that take place in fictional world have locations inspired by christianity or any other religion. This is just easiest way to put religious plot in the game. Even Witcher 1 and 2 has such plot only it shows church in a way it was acting during middle ages. There can be a connection between church irl and any kind of religion in game but it doesn't make any character from game christian. Besides being christian is about something more than just going to church one or few times, don't You think? 

 

And also You went a bit too far with the "insulting". Book of magic is not a bible. So how is it insulting? That way MLP is too insulting as it says that friendship is magic. 

[ShintX 180]

No offence, but looking for christians in a fictional world, where a God does not even exist is... stupid. 

 

I am all respectful for people's beliefs, but please don't force religion in such games. Some of game design may be based on church, but that's it. You will see such inspirations everywhere, with such logic we can say that human race from Heroes V and VI is christian because they have angels and archangels and crosses and fight demons despite the fact they worship Elrath. 

 

Many games that take place in fictional world have locations inspired by christianity or any other religion. This is just easiest way to put religious plot in the game. Even Witcher 1 and 2 has such plot only it shows church in a way it was acting during middle ages. There can be a connection between church irl and any kind of religion in game but it doesn't make any character from game christian. Besides being christian is about something more than just going to church one or few times, don't You think? 

 

And also You went a bit too far with the "insulting". Book of magic is not a bible. So how is it insulting? That way MLP is too insulting as it says that friendship is magic. 

Well, Link did pray and made that cross sign when he read "The Book of Mudora" to enter into a building, by making the three blocks move to enter that place. Actually inside there was suppose to have "The Star of David". But was censored and changed into a gibberish symbol

Atleast from Japanese to English version

Source: http://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_A_Link_to_the_Past#Regional_Differences

Original

http://tcrf.net/File:LTTPMiseryMireTileJ.gif

Changed one

http://tcrf.net/File:LTTPMiseryMireTileU.gif

 

Its not force if its fact or was intended too. Its just fun that it had christian themes in the game from the beginning before it became neutral fantasy.

 

Like i'm not getting offended because they changed from "The Bible" to "The Book of Magic". I just thought, no thats just wrong in a sense of that the bible is considered a holy book, and that book of miracles would be a better fitting word. Because magic is frowned upon in the monotheistic understanding. Its like taking matters into its own hand, while in christian understanding that would be miracle, since you need god to help you. So i just had a better PR suggestion than book of magic.

 

I don't get how people feel forced with religious themes in a game I think thats pretty awesome. I myself don't believe in God. I don't know how much ups and downs there are between Atheists and Christians in USA. But i think its pretty cool that it has medieval christian theme in this game to be honest.

 

Its like i feel religious for a Zelda game, y'know in a fun sense lol

Edited November 12, 2014 by ShintX