Do you think that bronies will ever be accepted into society?

[Nameless Knight 1,001]

i personally hope so because there is nothing wrong with bronies

We have plenty of problems, every fandom does. 

 

 

but yeah, unless being a brony becomes the norm, we will never fully be accepted.

Edited December 6, 2014 by Spritebot model ED-E

[[NULL] 906]

Parodying a character is fine. THIS is not:   youtube . com/watch?v=FdQvj6bNS-Y

I don't get it. What's so morally wrong about it? It still seems like parodying Celestia to me.

 

Even if it's morally wrong, are they supposed to take it down just because someone doesn't like it?

Edited December 6, 2014 by SpaceOnion

[EtherealIneffability 18]

I don't get it. What's so morally wrong about it? It still seems like parodying Celestia to me.

 

Even if it's morally wrong, are they supposed to take it down just because someone doesn't like it?

No. But it shouldn't exist in the first place. That is the problem here. The fact that it (and an abysmally large amount of material like it) exists points to a serious issue.

 

Parodying a character can take place without making light of rape and sexual assault.

 

Even making a specifically extremely sexual parody of a character can take place without making light of rape and sexual assault.

 

It's not that hard.

Edited December 6, 2014 by EtherealIneffability

[[NULL] 906]

No. But it shouldn't exist in the first place. That is the problem here. The fact that it (and an abysmally large amount of material like it) exists points to a serious issue.

 

Parodying a character can take place without making light of rape and sexual assault.

 

Even making a specifically extremely sexual parody of a character can take place without making light of rape and sexual assault.

 

It's not that hard.

Or you could just ignore it, and let people express themselves as they please, with the understanding that not everyone has the same sense of humour.

 

Ask Princess Molestia isn't some sort of social commentary on what's right and wrong, or some pro-rapist propaganda, and it's definitely not meant to be taken seriously. It's not like they're presenting her as some sort of role model. It's just there to be ironic.

Edited December 6, 2014 by SpaceOnion

[Cirrus. 1,089]

I don't think "bronies" will ever be completely accepted. I can see the fandom being more accepted as time goes on though. The marketing and some of the toys from mlp are definitely going to keep some people weirded out.

 I still kinda shake my head and laugh when I walk past the pink aisle at a store and see some of the MLP stuff on the end caps. Some people just will not get past that aspect to even try to see why anyone besides little girls would be interested in the show. The show itself is beyond that mentality, but the marketing department is still where it's always been.

I will admit that my reason for originally checking out mlp was kind of motivated by negativity. I looked up Tara Strong because of something else, just to she was doing these days. MLP was one of her current projects and I was surprised they still made it. I knew nothing about it except from my exposure as a kid in the 90's. I looked it up expecting to laugh at Tara Strong's crappy role in a crappy show.

 

...Instead I fell into a black hole.

 

Just remember, there's always going to be haters, trolls, and ignorant people around. Someone somewhere is going to take issue with something, because reasons- legitimate or not.

[Geek0zoid 1,468]

When I read that question, I see it as "Do you think bronies will ever be universally accepted."
And, I have to say no to that. It's not that there's anything hugely wrong with us, it's just that this is the sad reality of it all. No specific group of people will ever be universally accepted, because all people have things they can and can't easily accept as fact. Just like gamers, bronies are a thing, but not everyone is going to exactly like that. There will always be people who accept bronies, but I don't think that the world will ever be 100 percent okay with them.

[EtherealIneffability 18]

Or you could just ignore it, and let people express themselves as they please, with the understanding that not everyone has the same sense of humour.

 

Ask Princess Molestia isn't some sort of social commentary on what's right and wrong, or some pro-rapist propaganda, and it's definitely not meant to be taken seriously. It's not like they're presenting her as some sort of role model. It's just there to be ironic.

See, this is where I would start talking about how jokes don't exist in a vacuum and are actually extremely important vehicles of social change and/or perpetuation, and also add personal experiences of how my female friends have been treated at brony photoshoots if you refuse to see the problem that Princess Molestia is a side effect of, but I feel like we have gotten way too off topic here.

 

My original point: There are two reasons why the brony fandom is greatly stigmatized, or "not accepted".

 

1. Femininity is seen as inferior, and therefore men who show public interest in a female-aimed show are seen to be "downgrading" (throw in the fact that it's a show aimed at little girls, and that only men are seen as pedophiles for much the same sexist reasons, and you've got people everywhere seeing bronies as evil or something)

 

2. Standard gore and porn aside, there is some extremely disgusting stuff that comes from the most verbose members of the fandom, which is then ignored and otherwise allowed to continue by the rest of the fandom (and this conversation is a perfect example). This gives the fandom an understandably bad reputation, which can only be fixed once we clean up our act as a group by letting the members who are giving us that bad reputation know that what they are doing is not okay at all, let alone the fact that it is not in line with the morals of the show that they claim to love.

 

Thus, in order to be accepted, we must work towards a better image: both by making others on the outside see change and encouraging them to be more tolerant of nontraditional interests and expressions, and by collectively improving our own behavior as a fandom.

 

Since I've summarized my point, I'm withdrawing from this topic for fear of derailing it further. Since I tend to do that. :T Whoopsie

[Guest]

 

 

Thus, in order to be accepted, we must work towards a better image: both by making others on the outside see change and encouraging them to be more tolerant of nontraditional interests and expressions, and by collectively improving our own behavior as a fandom.

 

I don't really think the fandom can be changed, ever. There's always going to be an underbelly who's into said stuff. There isn't really much one can do about it, except ignore/don't deal with it.

[EtherealIneffability 18]

I don't really think the fandom can be changed, ever. There's always going to be an underbelly who's into said stuff. There isn't really much one can do about it, except ignore/don't deal with it.

I am not talking about the porn. More power to the cloppers. They can do whatever they want to if it makes them happy. I'm talking about the ones who repeatedly promote racist, sexist, and otherwise prejudiced (and even dangerous) ideas (such as the idea that rape and sexual assault is funny). You can't change someone's fetish, to my knowledge; it's just another aspect of their sexuality, and so long as they are not harming others, that is okay. (Although, we can help by making sure that the porn images we post are properly tagged or stored so that they do not show up in google safe search.) However, you CAN change someone's prejudices, or help someone unlearn social conventions that result in harm or a hostile environment for others. I've seen it happen.

 

We can change that part of the fandom. But first, we have to want to. It has to be a group effort.

 

(okay for srs tho I have finals to study for if anybody sees me back in this thread for the next two days please yell at me)

[Lisa 5,553]

Never.

Ever.

Ever.

And Ever.

 

Because everyone already thinks that we jerk it to lewd pictures of cartoon horses.

Quite an impression hmm?

[They call me Loyalty 1,948]

Yes, it's happening now. People is opening up all around some of us. We have that effect on people, when our fields interact with each other!

The problem with human beings is related with the actual frequency of consciousness in some of them. So what do we do?

We fine tune thier frequency, by our mere presence.

For example, within my range, people suddenly change. One day they were looking all stressed and sad. The next days, once our fields touched each other. They look so much more alive. They have colors in them. And I love it! Sigh, human curiosity, such a delightful nature.

It happened with earthly friends of mine. "I feel so different when I'm by your side" Acting all happy, in freedom. I was a child at that time, so I was like "I didn't do anything at all"

Bringers of the Life.

[An Unknown Pony. 370]

Well,in My Opinion,Maybe Bronies could be accepted into society,maybe not.Depends on which type of society

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,592]

While the concept of acceptance is definitely something I want to be positive with...in this case, I don't think this will happen, not fully. If the internet is any indication that is. The type of insults that I have seen are getting much worse and kids are still being bullied constantly if they like anything like this show. That will most likely get worse too.

 

All of this and for what? Loving a great cartoon. It is insane how much gender roles control many people in this world.

[Splashee 28,564]

I don't think they ever was. Now it is too late since the show is over. But around 2014, I was still having hopes!

[Vefka 1,499]

Aren't we already are? From the beginning?  Bronies are not some kind of pedophiles to say "society doesn't accept us", liking things not meant for you was never and probably would never be usual thing and bullying for not being like others wouldn't be too. You don't lose your job because of being brony, you don't become rogue, you just being bullied and trolled

Saying "society doesn't accept bronies" is exaggerated and drama for me

[Stardust 641]

More than before I think it seems less weird than it did in begining but never fully idk. I mean things like anime and sci fi that is more accepted tho

[Splashee 28,564]

First we have to form an actual group that is called "Bronies", since they seem to have disappeared (from popularity charts). Then we can try to get them accepted, by asking random people if they would allow people to watch a show for little girls. It's complicated!

[Sonic Shimmer 4,132]

Honestly, I’m pretty sure 98% of people couldn’t care less about Bronies. They’re too busy getting on with their own lives to worry about some guy who collects plushies.

It’s only the small group with a chip on their shoulder and too much free time who feel so strongly against it.

Edited October 23, 2020 by Sonic Shimmer