movies/tv Nickelodeon.

[CastletonSnob 3,074]

What do you think went wrong with Nickelodeon? It was amazing back in the day, and remains a big part of our childhoods.

 

Now, it's practically the Spongebob Channel, and none of the other shows other than Harvey Beaks are worth watching.

[galaxysquid 2,122]

Oh good god I hate Nickelodeon and Disney Channel these days. I feel like the people who write the shows take no time to think about what the episodes are about and the quality of the show's comedy. But since this topic is on Nickelodeon I'll concentrate mostly on that.

 

Most of the cartoons on Nickelodeon are filled with nothing but gross/unfunny jokes, characters farting, sneezing with snot shooting out, saliva, etc. And I think that's really gross. Extremely unfunny to me. And the revamps of Ninja Turtles and other old franchises, yuck. The only show worth watching on Nickelodeon is Spongebob. Although the newest episodes aren't all that great. 

 

I like the fact that Nick Canon made TeenNick, because that channel does re-runs of iCarly, Drake and Josh, Zoey 101 and Victorious. Plus, they do re-runs of 90's shows at Midnight. Those were the good shows. 

[Blique 211]

 

(Maybe they just spent all of their budget on the Avatar series.) 

 

I liked Fairly Oddparents well enough, and Danny Phantom was great. They're probably considered old by now though...

 

I don't think American cartoons in general are very good. Due to the "cartoons are for kids" mentality, plot depth is shallow, everything is comedy, and there is little continuation so that episodes can be watched out of order.

 

Lately though, I think due to Adventure Time's success, Cartoon Network has started hiring young writers with new, experimental ideas. They've made some great stuff since then (Over the Garden Wall, Steven Universe), so hopefully Nickelodeon will start doing the same. As for live action shows, I've never watched any and can't speak much of the subject.

[galaxysquid 2,122]

 

(Maybe they just spent all of their budget on the Avatar series.) 

 

I liked Fairly Oddparents well enough, and Danny Phantom was great. They're probably considered old by now though...

 

I don't think American cartoons in general are very good. Due to the "cartoons are for kids" mentality, plot depth is shallow, everything is comedy, and there is little continuation so that episodes can be watched out of order.

 

Lately though, I think due to Adventure Time's success, Cartoon Network has started hiring young writers with new, experimental ideas. They've made some great stuff since then (Over the Garden Wall, Steven Universe), so hopefully Nickelodeon will start doing the same. As for live action shows, I've never watched any and can't speak much of the subject.

 

Yeah I agree with you. Fairly Oddparents and Danny Phantom were pretty cool, too! I almost forgot about those... man.

 

I hope Nickelodeon takes that approach too. 

[Zachiscool5 16]

I don't liek it.  :okiedokielokie:  They ruined Spongebob, and Fairly Oddparents.

[Megas 27,624]

The higher-ups at Nickelodeon thinks that fart-jokes, potty humor, boogers and the same tired assembly-line sitcoms we see from both Nick and Disney are what people want, and they seem to be allergic to quality or to things people actually do want(see their treatment of Legend of Korra in Seasons 3&4, letting M. Night Shyamalan making the first and a potential second)

Edited September 5, 2015 by Gattai

[Christmasy Britty 2,553]

Mainly its because of their lack of originality in cartoons. It feels like their still trying to live in the 90s like they never outgrew it. The cartoons that do air are either similar to the 90s or are completely based off of something else that existed before hand like Teenage mutant ninja turtles. The live action shows are recycled garbage that was all birthed from the ICarly series and feel too much like an attempt to copy the Disney Channel celebrity sitcoms that sadly are still airing and kids are still watching said garbage because of how colorful and stupid they are and how they can attract kids attention. I wish Nickelodeon would just die already.

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

Nickelodeon just seems behind with the times. They think that only kids watch cartoons and it shows seeing how their cartoons seem to be full of sugar high chacters and toilet humor. Also the fact that they conatantly rely on Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents which are both clearly passed their prime. They really should take a leason from CN and Disney with how to make cartooms seeing as they both have success stories.

[Trixie Heartstrings 434]

A lot of people have said new management was the reason it went downhill. They got a new manager sometime in the mid '00s, and that's when they think it went downhill. Currently, I think their biggest problem is relying too much on older creators. They rely too much on Spongebob and Dan Schnider, and they haven't done a good enough job looking for new talent. There have been cartoons pitched to them(Modifiers is an example, along with Adventure Time), that they haven't really looked into. They went for an internet short that was meant to be a joke(Breadwinners) instead. They need fresh new people that know what they're doing.

[StarBot 85]

I have a friend who is BIG Nickelodeon fanboy, and he will defend Nick until he dies, he makes good art tho

 

 

 

 

As for my opinion on Nick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XIiLCHmxA&list=LLyNgrMR7AhhZrpQk_JfuMUw

Edited September 5, 2015 by StarBot

[CastletonSnob 3,074]

I have a friend who is BIG Nickelodeon fanboy, and he will defend Nick until he dies, he makes good art tho

 

As for my opinion on Nick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XIiLCHmxA&list=LLyNgrMR7AhhZrpQk_JfuMUw

 

I think Pinkie says best my thoughts on that commercial:

 

Here's something to consider. For those saying that Nickelodeon just makes kidcoms: Nickelodeon has made kidcoms since the early years. It's not like they just suddenly started making them. Here's a list:

 

Clarissa Explains it All

Hey Dude

Salute Your Shorts

Pete and Pete

Welcome Freshmen

My Brother and Me

Kenan and Kel

[Lunar Echo 10,335]

I'm they'll always have their audience.

[DND 2,355]

Nick used to be my very favorite cartoon channel. For a long time my affinity for cartoons would be the only thing I was interested in watching; the live action stuff just seemed a bit lame to me back then. I'm a pretty big fan of Butch Hartman's work, that mostly being Danny Phantom and Fairly Odd Parent's older runs. Back then, Nick had a whimsical charm to it. I wasn't a big fan of Cartoon Network because the late 90s/early 2000s cartoons were seemingly grotesque and toilet humor focused kinda how Nick is now. Disney channel just kinda slowly stopped caring about cartoons altogether for a while. I definitely prefer Cartoon Network now. It's become something really great ever since Adventure Time aired. 

 

I'm still not giving up on Nick. We'll just give it time to patch itself together.

Edited September 5, 2015 by ;sylveon

[CastletonSnob 3,074]

Nick used to be my very favorite cartoon channel. For a long time my affinity for cartoons would be the only thing I was interested in watching; the live action stuff just seemed a bit lame to me back then. I'm a pretty big fan of Butch Hartman's work, that mostly being Danny Phantom and Fairly Odd Parent's older runs. Back then, Nick had a whimsical charm to it. I wasn't a big fan of Cartoon Network because the late 90s/early 2000s cartoons were seemingly grotesque and toilet humor focused kinda how Nick is now. Disney channel just kinda slowly stopped caring about cartoons altogether for a while. I definitely prefer Cartoon Network now. It's become something really great ever since Adventure Time aired. 

 

I'm still not giving up on Nick. We'll just give it time to patch itself together.

 

I think Cartoon Network has a solid lineup, and the best of the three:

 

Adventure Time

Regular Show

Steven Universe

Clarence

Gumball

We Bare Bears

[Megas 27,624]

I think Pinkie says best my thoughts on that commercial:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi2AkC14w4c

Here's something to consider. For those saying that Nickelodeon just makes kidcoms: Nickelodeon has made kidcoms since the early years. It's not like they just suddenly started making them. Here's a list:

 

Clarissa Explains it All

Hey Dude

Salute Your Shorts

Pete and Pete

Welcome Freshmen

My Brother and Me

Kenan and Kel

No one's egging them for making "tweencoms" or "kidcoms", people are egging them for making bad, unoriginal ones, ones with no soul and feel like they were rejected Disney sitcoms ideas(who are no better themselves)

 

I'd argue that iCarly was their last decent one, and even then the same could be said that that's where the decline for their sitcoms started

Edited September 5, 2015 by Gattai

[Guest]

The issue with Nick is that unlike Cartoon Network, Nick never evolved. They basically are still relying on the same talent that got them "big" and are not investing in new talent or giving anything "new" a chance. They are more or less just trying to capitalize on what made them big and trying to "recreate" the feeling of their earlier Nicktoons and relying heavily on live action pre-teen dramas to stay alive. Nick is very afraid of change it seems and that's part of the issue. This is evident by their recent news of trying to bring back 90s shows. Nick is bringing back Kel Mitchell in a show that is coming on the 12th and they are considering reviving Hey Arnold and Rugrats. While I would be interested in seeing them finally making the second Hey Arnold movie to close the story, this is just further evidence that Nick doesn't want to adapt.

 

Cartoon Network while they are doing a reboot of Powerpuff Girls is not getting the same complaints of "I want my 90s shows back!" to the same degree as Nick. I seldom hear people complain about CN needing to bring back old shows. CN invested in a ton of new talent and it's paid off big time for them. They get their asses in gear after the 2005-2010 period where they were producing a lot of lackluster crap. Adventure Time opened their eyes to the fact that they need to take chances and try to develop new IPs instead of just hoping the same old same old would keep them afloat. With Regular Show, Adventure Time, and Steven Universe, Cartoon Network is realizing the power in investing in new talent. They are getting a fresh feeling that is bringing in NEW fans instead of just relying on capturing the 90s nostalgia to lure in the old timers, many of which have moved on. With their Powerpuff Girls revival it feels more like a treat to long time viewers rather than a cry for help.

 

The other issue is basically they are also out of touch with their audience. Like their new Game Shakers show is showing how they are just relying on gimmicks to get attention. The show is more or less being based entirely off of modern trends and shows that Nick did little research. For those unfamiliar the show is about two 7-8 year old girls who developed a mobile phone game and found great fortune and decided to open their own game studio with their "gamer" friend and his father (played by Kel Mitchell).

 

Here is already a list of problems with this show:

 

• Yet another live action show in a never ending slew of them from Nick.
• Yet ANOTHER show created by Dan Schneider. Nick is clearly hoping that they will get another iCarly, Kennan and Kel, or Drake and Josh out of him. After the relatively low interest in his last 3 shows  you'd think they would give up and give someone else a chance.
• Kel Mitchell is more or less shoehorned in as an attempt to get nostalgic viewers on board.
• The show is insulting to real gamers. It's quite evident that their "gamer" character is not a real gamer. He plays mobile games and Nick seems to think that the gaming community takes mobile gaming this seriously when it does not. If anything this show is trying to assert that mobile gaming is a serious endeavor when it's not. Many gamers today despise the mobile market and are annoyed at its cash-grab mentality.

Nick pulled similar gimmicks with iCarly in trying to make a show about "the internet" which while iCarly did have success was more or less an example of how Nick is way out of touch with how the internet really is. They are hoping the same gimmicks will work again, but it's just not there. They are afraid to invest in something new or something more grown up. That's the biggest issue is that Nick is still treating its viewers like they are 8 and CN has found a better balance of appealing to those young audience members while not insulting their intelligence or insulting the intelligence of older audience members.

 

Let's also not forget that Nick is holding desperately onto that "traditional value" standpoint so heavily and don't want to take the risk of being progressive. Look at CN and Disney: shows open about homosexuality and untraditional love and families, and gender roles. Nick took ONE dip into it with Legend of Korra and even then they did it very subtly at the end of the series and acted like it was such a huge deal. Look at their track record though:

 

• Many of their "non-traditional" families in their shows are underplayed or hidden. An example is Chucky's dad and his deceased mother in Rugrats. It was ignored for several seasons and finally brought up in one episode, then never referred to again.
• They still have strong ideals about gender roles. In iCarly there was an episode that was clearly intended to be making fun of men who are into things targeted at women. In the episode Carly is obsessed with a "bad boy" (another ridiculous female stereotype) and she ends up breaking up with him because he collects beanie babies and she can not get over that fact.
• Nick tries to stay away from anything that may get annoyed conservative parents sending them letters.

It's really quite evident that Nick wants to stay in the 90s and that is ironically what is hurting them.

[MLPFanatic34 3,234]

They got rid of all the good classic shows and replaced them with live action garbage, same with Disney Channel and Cartoon Network.

[SquipyCheetah 449]

I used to love Nick, Disney Channel, and CN but now, I hate all three as well as Viacom as a whole. I decided to put on Nick one day recently to just see how it was like, and it was bad. Do these people think kids have like ten brain cells? Geez.

[Ragingdubstep 61]

Loved the shows from the 90's...not so much now XD

[The Coffee Pony 1,390]

What do you think went wrong with Nickelodeon? It was amazing back in the day, and remains a big part of our childhoods.

 

Now, it's practically the Spongebob Channel, and none of the other shows other than Harvey Beaks are worth watching.

 

OH REALLY!?

 

 

Though I will say it's annoying how it has become the Spongebob Marathon channel and rarely has any new shows on it.

 

I have to give it this though, at least when it gets a good show it doesn't cancel it! Which is more than I can say for the absolute worst network for animation (Cartoon Network).

[Trixie Heartstrings 434]

 

 

Though I will say it's annoying how it has become the Spongebob Marathon channel and rarely has any new shows on it.

What makes this even worse is that it's been the Spongebob Marathon channel for almost 10 years.

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

I have a friend who is BIG Nickelodeon fanboy, and he will defend Nick until he dies, he makes good art tho

 

 

 

 

As for my opinion on Nick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_XIiLCHmxA&list=LLyNgrMR7AhhZrpQk_JfuMUw

What makes this song look 10 times more lazy was the fact that they felt the need to loop the footage to make the video longer. Could they not think of anything else to put in there?

[superdogz1999 551]

Nickelodeon has sure gone downhill in recent years. I remember it showing shows when I was 4 or 5 such as Catdog, Rugrats, Hey Arnold, The Wild Thornberrys, The Amanda Show, Early Spongebob, Rocko's Modern Life, Invader Zim, Ren and Stimpy (The original, not the Adult Party Cartoon), Aaaah Real Monsters!, The Angry Beavers and Jimmy Neutron. Now the channel in my opinion is rubbish as it does have rubbish shows like Sanjay and Craig, Breadwinners and Fanboy and Chum Chum. I think that Nickelodeon needs to have a few new shows that are as good as Early Regular Show, Gravity Falls and of course MLP. They should also tone down on the Spongebob Marathons.

[Guest]

 

 

same with Disney Channel and Cartoon Network.

 

Cartoon Network killed off their live action and reality show block after realizing it was a stupid idea.

[StarBot 85]

What makes this song look 10 times more lazy was the fact that they felt the need to loop the footage to make the video longer. Could they not think of anything else to put in there?

The only good thing about this Labor Day Marathon is that they are only cartoons and not that shitty live action stuff