Should Lightning Dust Return?

[flutterbard 55]

Some of the minor antagonists like Gilda and Trixie have returned for another episode. Since I am a fan of Lightning Dust, I can't wait for her make a return. In fact, before Rarity Investigates actually premiered, I had predicted and hoped that it would be the return of Lightning Dust. 

 

What do you guys think? Do you guys think that Lightning Dust should return?

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,243]

Lightning Dust, to me, was one of the more generic minor villains, but she has more potential for sure. I would love to see her come back but as a friendly rival to Rainbow Dash. The only downside is that the interactions would most likely end up being a lot like Rainbow and Gilda in Griffonstone, so it would need something to set it apart. 

[green 331]

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Edited December 30, 2015 by green

[Silver Stream. 708]

Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I'd prefer her to have some sort of "redemption return" than the others because she was the only "antagonist" (I don't really see her as one tbh) that wasn't being a d*ck on purpose. What she did wasn't intentional when it came to harming others. She wasn't even trying to beat Rainbowdash or anything, she was just caught up in outshining others to be the best Wonder Colt and by doing so, she lost sight of what was important. 

 

And to be honest, I found it unfair she was stripped from her position. Spitfire lost sight at one point in "Rainbowfalls" but was easily forgiven. Lightning Dust, despite me not being a fan, deserves some justice. I found the consequence for her a bit over the top.  

[Unlikeable Pony 2,698]

Yes, 100%. She's a good RD foil.

 

She needs to team up with Wind Rider to get revenge on Rainbow Dash. I mean, that would make one thrilling episode if they could write it well.

agreed, I really would like to see those two team up.

[Megas 27,544]

I don't know how they can make it work but I'm all for it as long as she's still an antagonist and not redeemed at the end

 

I'm also for that Wind Rider/Lightning Dust team up. I think even the writers teased it a but

 

 

 

 

It probably won't happen, but it'd be neat if it did

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe a SuriDust team up can work too

 

 

Edited November 11, 2015 by Megas75

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

Totally, I'd like for her to return, but for her to redeem herself. Maybe an episode about trust, like she comes back to Rainbow Dash for help, but Rainbow Dash doesn't trust her because of her reckless behavior, and has to prove to her that she has matured. Rainbow would put her through tests, that will in the end prove to be unnecessary.  

[J. Brony 313]

Hopefully Jim Miller wasn't just yanking our chains and a Lightning Dust/Wind Rider team-up is in the works.  Maybe this time Lightning Dust will be the one to get screwed over by WR and become the latest redeemed villain in a long string of redeemed villains.

[Venomous 18,862]

I'd love to see her again!

I imagine her coming back acting like a total b*tch and then another pony teaching her a lesson.

I know that RainbowDash taught her a lesson originally, but I have a feeling that she didn't really... get it.

[cider float 2,537]

If she does there's going to be another Rainbow Dash episode which I had just enough of. As if there isn't enough Rainbow Dash and Rainbow Dash copies already (Scootaloo, Daring Do, Firefly). 

 

 

[Silver Stream. 708]

If she does there's going to be another Rainbow Dash episode which I had just enough of. As if there isn't enough Rainbow Dash and Rainbow Dash copies already (Scootaloo, Daring Do, Firefly). 

 

You know, there CAN  BE more than one pony/person out there who takes a liking to sports/activities and are competitive. Just because they are active/competitive doesn't make them a "RainbowDash" by default. That's like saying every bookworm is Twilight, or every person who likes fashion is a "Rarity"

 

 

I think the fact that they made Daring-Do a recolored rainbowdash was just for kicks. That way it'll be easier for Rainbow to relate to the book she was reading. 

Edited November 11, 2015 by Princess Sunset

[Unlikeable Pony 2,698]

I'd love to see an RD/Gilda team up vs. windrider if he and LD were to return; it would make her reform this season have more umph to it IMO.

 

 

Hopefully Jim Miller wasn't just yanking our chains and a Lightning Dust/Wind Rider team-up is in the works.  Maybe this time Lightning Dust will be the one to get screwed over by WR and become the latest redeemed villain in a long string of redeemed villains.

Yeah, I really want to see the two.
Though, I'd actually rather have Lightning dust remain evil and have her be the evil apprentice that upstages her mentor, acting as the starscream of the group.

It'd be a great way to hammer home Lightning dust as a foil to RD if she lost due to lacking loyalty. Wind rider isn't much of a foil to RD even if he is opposed to her due to his personality not really syncing up well with her.

[cider float 2,537]

You know, there CAN  BE more than one pony/person out there who takes a liking to sports/activities and are competitive. Just because they are active/competitive doesn't make them a "RainbowDash" by default. That's like saying every bookworm is Twilight, or every person who likes fashion is a "Rarity"

 

 

I think the fact that they made Daring-Do a recolored rainbowdash was just for kicks. That way it'll be easier for Rainbow to relate to the book she was reading. 

No, they are copies of Rainbow Dash. Trixie is an example of a similar Rainbow Dash archetype character that isn't a copy and done right. She could of been another Rainbow Dash but found her own footing and own character.

 

To not be a copy is to make enough of an impression that sets them apart from the original. 

 

I mean Applejack is active/competitive and sporty yet you don't see me calling her a copy? Because like Trixie there are many ways that deviated her from Rainbow Dash by several yards.

Edited November 11, 2015 by cider float

[Megas 27,544]

No, they are copies of Rainbow Dash. Trixie is an example of a similar Rainbow Dash archetype character that isn't a copy and done right. She could of been another Rainbow Dash but found her own footing and own character.

 

To not be a copy is to make enough of an impression that sets them apart from the original. 

 

I mean Applejack is active/competitive and sporty yet you don't see me calling her a copy? Because like Trixie there are many ways that deviated her from Rainbow Dash by several yards.

Except they're not. We literally know nothing of Firefly other than that she was the founder of the original Wonderbolts(or whatever they were called in the past), Daring Do only looks like RD because of Read it and Weep where they wanted RD look like a story character but otherwise are very different. Scootaloo's similar in that she wants to be like her and looks up to her as a role model, but she's different enough to stand out on her own.

 

Only character that's close to be considered a copy is Lightning Dust and that was intentional. She was sort of meant to be a reflection of RD without all of the lessons she's learned

[cider float 2,537]

Except they're not. We literally know nothing of Firefly other than that she was the founder of the original Wonderbolts(or whatever they were called in the past), Daring Do only looks like RD because of Read it and Weep where they wanted RD look like a story character but otherwise are very different. Scootaloo's similar in that she wants to be like her and looks up to her as a role model, but she's different enough to stand out on her own.

 

Only character that's close to be considered a copy is Lightning Dust and that was intentional. She was sort of meant to be a reflection of RD without all of the lessons she's learned

Daring Do is a carbon copy of her as well as Scootaloo. Yes not much is known about Firefly but so far she is using the Rainbow Dash character template with what is shown so far.

Edited November 11, 2015 by cider float

[Megas 27,544]

Daring Do is a carbon copy of her as well as Scootaloo. Yes not much is known about Firefly but so far she is using the Rainbow Dash character template with what is shown so far.

Again, how are they carbon copies? You keep saying that yet you never explain why.

 

Daring Do is an archaeologist who usually rejects the help of others in and act as a "lone wolf", and with Scootaloo, she idolizes RD so it's obvious that she'll be similar to RD but she's different enough to stand out on her own, she's not as hot-headed and cocky as RD and she's a pegasus still can't fly(which is in complete contrast to The Best Flier in Equestria)

[RyaN_ 292]

MLP:FIW comic "Siege of the Crystal Empire"

[chirox the pony 1,336]

Yeah I think she should return. Knowing her she would want revenge after what happened with Rainbow Dash. 

[Unlikeable Pony 2,698]

MLP:FIW comic "Siege of the Crystal Empire"

Bleh, don't remind me.

 

Its not that I think the arc is bad, its just that the "Legion of evil" antagonists plot is being very much wasted in that its just... THERE. The antagonists are clearly secondary to sombra and serve very little purpose besides "plot device" without being able to focus on or delve into them

 

A good return of rival antagonists would play to their personalities and focus on them, not make THEM play to the plot, like what's going on with Iron will and Flim flam being wildly out of character to be caught up in a near genocidal (or maybe EVEN genocidal) scheme like this.

 

 

 

 

I like sombra and hope in it, but they basically took the "Legion of wash out antagonists" plot that alot of fans have been wanting to see and wasted it, and we'll almost certainly never see a legion of evil plot again in either the show or comics since they try and avoid redoing plots.

[Singe 2,111]

It's hypocritical when some of the Mane 6/Spike have done worse reckless acts or destruction than Lightning Dust.

 

Some injustice to Lightning Dust and leaves a bad taste in my mouth with Rainbow Dash. *Bleep* unforeseen circumstances as that jerk ruins lives everywhere it shows its head and elevates the situation.

Edited November 11, 2015 by Singe

[cmarston1 5,959]

I would be perfectly fine with seeing lighting dust return, but I don't necessarily strongly desire for it to happen.

[cider float 2,537]

Again, how are they carbon copies? You keep saying that yet you never explain why.

 

Daring Do is an archaeologist who usually rejects the help of others in and act as a "lone wolf", and with Scootaloo, she idolizes RD so it's obvious that she'll be similar to RD but she's different enough to stand out on her own, she's not as hot-headed and cocky as RD and she's a pegasus still can't fly(which is in complete contrast to The Best Flier in Equestria)

It's pretty obvious they were made with Rainbow Dash's design in mind. Scootaloo is everything like Rainbow Dash. Cocky, reckless, stubbornness, confident has an affinity to idolize the best, can't stand being second best (remember Scootaloo's stubbornness on having to fly feeling that was necessary to win that show?). Daring Do is a complete Rainbow Dash recoloring, she is reckless, a Mary Sue, confident, good at brawling. Daring Do is very cocky, she gets caught in many sticky situations because she runs in without thinking her Mary Sue nature gets her out of them that's all, Rainbow Dash also give you the sense she can breeze her way out of situations as well.  

[Megas 27,544]

It's hypocritical when some of the Mane 6/Spike have done worse reckless acts or destruction than Lightning Dust.

 

Some injustice to Lightning Dust and leaves a bad taste in my mouth with Rainbow Dash. *Bleep* unforeseen circumstances as that jerk ruins lives everywhere it shows its head and elevates the situation.

You're still going on about that? The Remane 5 simply showed up at the wrong place at the wrong time. Rainbow Dash saw her mistake and did everything in her power to prevent anything bad from happening. Meanwhile Lightning Dust was acting like it was the coolest things ever, showing absolutely no remorse for her actions, which is why she got kicked out

 

Lightning Dust has no one to blame but herself

It's pretty obvious they were made with Rainbow Dash's design in mind. Scootaloo is everything like Rainbow Dash. Cocky, reckless, stubbornness, confident has an affinity to idolize the best, can't stand being second best (remember Scootaloo's stubbornness on having to fly feeling that was necessary to win that show?). Daring Do is a complete Rainbow Dash recoloring, she is reckless, a Mary Sue, confident, good at brawling. Daring Do is very cocky, she gets caught in many sticky situations because she runs in without thinking her Mary Sue nature gets her out of them that's all, Rainbow Dash also give you the sense she can breeze her way out of situations as well.  

Again, your getting "carbon copy" confused with "similar traits". Scootaloo stubbornness about flying was more for personal reasons than anything, everyone already believed they had the best routine. Scootaloo alone felt that it'd be better if they added flying but the episode makes it very obvious that it was just because Scootaloo wants to be able to fly. Scootaloo shares a lot with RD(like idolization) but she's also different enough to stand out on her own.

 

And it's also pretty obvious why Daring Do is a RD recolor, as they wanted her to be a character that RD could envision herself into while reading the book. Otherwise she's still mostly different from RD, doing things on her own without anyone's help

Edited November 11, 2015 by Megas75

[Malinter 3,064]

I think she should. Or at the very least we should she were she went after that episode.

 

Apparently there was to be a further scene where RD and LD met again and LD admitted to RD was right about her being reckless but  that they could remain friends but for whatever reason this scene never made it into the episode itself.

 

I'm sure alot of folks would wonder where a pony like RD/LD would go if they lost that chance at their dream. We'd be seeing a "what if" scenario of RD though Lightning Dust.

Edited November 11, 2015 by Malinter

[Singe 2,111]

You're still going on about that? The Remane 5 simply showed up at the wrong place at the wrong time. Rainbow Dash saw her mistake and did everything in her power to prevent anything bad from happening. Meanwhile Lightning Dust was acting like it was the coolest things ever, showing absolutely no remorse for her actions, which is why she got kicked out

 

Lightning Dust has no one to blame but herself

 

The injustice was the Mane 5 wrong place wrong time don't call ahead let's have a surprise visit because if it it didn't happen no big deal, Lightning Dust and Rainbow Dash would learn a lesson about their limits with making a tornado.