Would Lauren Faust approve of seasons 4 and 5?

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

I can't find any legit comments on here twitter or interview sources about how she feels about who she left at DHX to carry on the show. I used to believe those rumors about Lauren wanting a tad darker tone for most of the stories, I rubbed it off as fan mythology. Judging from the first two episodes though, there's that possibility. I looked at the official art of equestria book and early designs of the villains were much more menacing.

 

Would Lauren give a good opinion of the tones and themes of season 4 and 5? I know she hates Twilight as an alicorn, but nothing else beyond that.

[cider float 2,539]

On twitter and social networks she would say she likes them but it's more so for public image interests rather than personal thought.

 

The show has just gone so far by the vision of other writers that it's no longer the way it used to been. It could even be considered a different show now.

Edited December 5, 2015 by cider float

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,202]

I doubt she would approve, but honestly, I can't care about what she thinks. She created the show, yes, I am grateful to her for that much, but from what I know her vision for the show was a lousy one overall. I mean, the show was gonna end originally at season 3 with her at the helm, which is actually pretty typical for a 'children's' show. Her leaving allowed the show to go far beyond the generic standard of a show like this. Not only that, but as we have seen, this show has been able to branch into many different areas now. I have a feeling that the insane fight between Twilight and Tirek would never have happened if Faust was in charge still. 

 

The show has very likely gone in a different direction than what Faust intended originally, but I honestly think that is for the better. 

[Marimo 555]

 

 

On twitter and social networks she would say she likes them but it's more so for public image interests rather than personal thought.

Whenever she's asked, she just says she doesn't watch the current stuff, she doesn't say she likes them or not.

[Yellow Diamond 7,578]

Lauren is likely mum on the current state of the show for the following reasons:

• She's uncomfortable watching the show because it's no longer her project. She has infrequently mentioned how leaving the show remains a sensitive area for her. I remember her tweeting a few years ago that she missed her girls (i.e., the ponies).
• If Lauren does have a negative opinion of MLP at present, she wouldn't express it in public, if for no other reason than basic professionalism. If she decried the direction of MLP following her stewardship, it would sully her reputation and undermine future employment opportunities. Few people want to work with (or under) someone who is known to badmouth their colleagues.
• Related to the point above, Lauren has worked closely with some of the remaining staff. She's on good terms, for instance, with MA Larson, if their past Twitter exchanges are any indication. Why would she rip into the work of people she considers friends?
• Lauren is also extraordinarily busy, which is in large part why she doesn't make the convention circuit beyond a few sporadic appearances. Factoring in her other professional obligations, she may simply lack the time to go into a detailed critique of MLP, even if she desired to do so.

Craig McCracken, her husband, did mention about year ago that Lauren was unhappy with Equestria Girls, or at least its concept. He has no reason to put words into her mouth, so we can accept him as a viable source. All told, Hasbro's push for Equestria Girls as a franchise may have been one of several factors that led to her departure, in addition to the logistical strain of acting as showrunner.

 

If we are so bold as to read between the lines -- Lauren is glad for the overall success of the show, its staff, and the fanbase. But it's painful for her to engage with a project that contains her vision but is no longer hers to guide and cultivate.

[The Nth Doctor 664]

If what she's done for Them's Fightin' Herds is any indication, she'd probably be content with the Grimderp endings we had for Season 4&5

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Lauren is likely mum on the current state of the show for the following reasons:

• She's uncomfortable watching the show because it's no longer her project. She has infrequently mentioned how leaving the show remains a sensitive area for her. I remember her tweeting a few years ago that she missed her girls (i.e., the ponies).
• If Lauren does have a negative opinion of MLP at present, she wouldn't express it in public, if for no other reason than basic professionalism. If she decried the direction of MLP following her stewardship, it would sully her reputation and undermine future employment opportunities. Few people want to work with (or under) someone who is known to badmouth their colleagues.
• Related to the point above, Lauren has worked closely with some of the remaining staff. She's on good terms, for instance, with MA Larson, if their past Twitter exchanges are any indication. Why would she rip into the work of people she considers friends?
• Lauren is also extraordinarily busy, which is in large part why she doesn't make the convention circuit beyond a few sporadic appearances. Factoring in her other professional obligations, she may simply lack the time to go into a detailed critique of MLP, even if she desired to do so.

Craig McCracken, her husband, did mention about year ago that Lauren was unhappy with Equestria Girls, or at least its concept. He has no reason to put words into her mouth, so we can accept him as a viable source. All told, Hasbro's push for Equestria Girls as a franchise may have been one of several factors that led to her departure, in addition to the logistical strain of acting as showrunner.

 

If we are so bold as to read between the lines -- Lauren is glad for the overall success of the show, its staff, and the fanbase. But it's painful for her to engage with a project that contains her vision but is no longer hers to guide and cultivate.

I can respect her for creating the vision for this universe. I most likely would have liked MLP if she had full total artistic control. I mean I loved Fosters and PPG. Her and Craig are genuinely creative people and even though most successful people will shrug their fans, I don't get that sense from Lauren. Lauren simply got screwed over by corporate greed and Hasbro's gender marketing scheme.

 

I put ponies before Equestria Girls, that isn't going to change. There are things I love about EQG. Sunset Shimmer, The Sirens and of course the music. I don't like the whole concept of the alternate Equestria being a high school. It's really nonsensical. Rainbow Dash really wants to be a flyer for the wonderbolts, that's a high honor in Equestria, she's reduced as a sports captain when she's a human. Rarity currently 2 buildings of her business and is making a name for herself. Human Rarity simply makes dresses at a high school setting. That's the problem with the human characters, feels like their aspirations are downgrades.

 

I hope Lauren at least likes Sunset Shimmer(pony) and the Sirens.. I welcome them as official show canon material in my book. Now with a fourth Equestria Girls on the horizon, I would be angry if I were Lauren. I really hope this 2017 movie delivers and it could make or break the fandom. I think if hypothetically Lauren were making some big decisions for this upcoming movie, it would be amazing. But I know the people over at DHX will pour everything they got into the movie. Even if I don't get what I want, I know there will be real effort. 

[cider float 2,539]

I doubt she would approve, but honestly, I can't care about what she thinks. She created the show, yes, I am grateful to her for that much, but from what I know her vision for the show was a lousy one overall. I mean, the show was gonna end originally at season 3 with her at the helm, which is actually pretty typical for a 'children's' show. Her leaving allowed the show to go far beyond the generic standard of a show like this. Not only that, but as we have seen, this show has been able to branch into many different areas now. I have a feeling that the insane fight between Twilight and Tirek would never have happened if Faust was in charge still. 

 

The show has very likely gone in a different direction than what Faust intended originally, but I honestly think that is for the better. 

To me it seems like the show was just jumping all over the place unlike something like Gravity Falls which stayed true to what it was from beginning to end. It didn't have a direction, it's been nothing but a mess which trivialized the presence and importance of all the characters.

[Mesme Rize 15,692]

Does it matter what she actually thinks?

 

At this point, her opinion would be gloryfied headcanons and nothing more. I like how it is and if she dosen't i couldn't care less.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Does it matter what she actually thinks?

 

At this point, her opinion would be gloryfied headcanons and nothing more. I like how it is and if she dosen't i couldn't care less.

I understand man, but imagine it from her perspective. She grew up in love with the original MLP. She gets hired to work a company she looked up to with child naivety. To get betrayed like that and have your own vision undermined is sad. But I know these are just shows. We all have to focus on our future careers and families. But it is unfortunate to have something like that taken from you. Yeah, she left and all. But you figure Hasbro would show some gratitude to the woman who made lightning in a bottle. 

[Pinkiest Pie 405]

I would assume if she had stayed at the show then it would of probably ended at Season 3, but because she left, the show has now gone way longer than that.

 

I've heard from Lauren's husband, Craig, that she doesn't like the plot of EQG (I don't either lol.).

 

I don't know how she would view the show though.

[Spikey-Wikey 378]

Well, she did leave the show. If she wanted her ideas to happen, she should have stayed. At this point, what she wanted to happen is now just a headcanon.

[Marimo 555]

 

 

Hasbro's push for Equestria Girls as a franchise may have been one of several factors that led to her departure

 

No. She's said before that Equestria Girls never came up before she left.

[cmarston1 5,964]

I don't really know.  And while do enjoy her work and respect what she brought to the show and without her the show wouldn't exist, I like the show and the direction it is currently going in right now, and don't really need to know what she thinks about the show currently.

[Guest]

I am pretty confident she would not approve considering she left the show because of creative differences, but honestly I do not care what her opinion is anymore. She made the show and she no longer controls it, so her opinion means little in affecting my own.

[Swifty 249]

Whenever she's asked, she just says she doesn't watch the current stuff, she doesn't say she likes them or not.

This is actually hard to believe, isnt it? As creator of the art and all you would at least be curious about what happens next with it? I can only presume she doesnt like it, but cannot say so, of course.

 

Still, her biggest part is the pony design, that no company can ever ruin. Its anime like, but not too much. Its cute, but it has still charisma. Really perfect.

Not sure about the shows success if it would have looked like Ren and stimpy or sth like that.

Edited December 6, 2015 by Swifty

[Cleverclover 1,526]

 

 

I know she hates Twilight as an alicorn, but nothing else beyond that.

 

 

I don't think she hates Twilight as an alicorn, so much as she hates her overbloated importance over her friends. Her original vision for Magical Mystery Cure would have ended with all the mane six being wrapped up in some way, and even Applejack, Pinkie, and Fluttershy would have adopted goals that they would have finally reached in the episodes leading up to it. 

 

Of course, the major downside about this change is that AJ, Pinkie and Flutters were never given any long-term goals to reach. I don't think that Faust knew what their goals would be, but she supposedly would have given them something. 

 

 

 

I have a feeling that the insane fight between Twilight and Tirek would never have happened if Faust was in charge still. 

 

Most likely not. Of course, that's not something I'd consider to be a bad thing. 

[Tonyan 122]

It's been a while that we haven't though about her, indeed. But I don't really think that she would be entirely positive about how the show has gone, on a story level. She may have approved many things, but I again there is so much changes about her characters that she wouldn't have done at all, opposed to the new writers.

[AmberDust 1,118]

In my opinion, the show isn't really creditable to her anymore, and she has no real reason to concern herself with it.

[Yellow Diamond 7,578]

 

No. She's said before that Equestria Girls never came up before she left.

 

 

Then I stand tentatively corrected on the record. Do you happen to recall the source?

[Marimo 555]

Then I stand tentatively corrected on the record. Do you happen to recall the source?

Answering a question on either her Twitter or her Deviant Art from what I can recall.

[Yellow Diamond 7,578]

Answering a question on either her Twitter or her Deviant Art from what I can recall.

 

It's probably on Twitter. Her DA account isn't very active beyond promoting incidental causes or projects.

 

Anyway, I trust your memory. I do know she left by and large because of the aforementioned strain of being the showrunner. There may have been some other creative differences, though that could just be fandom scuttlebutt filtrating my own memory of her explanations.

[Celli 4,349]

While she did create the show, as others have said, she doesn't have anything to do with the show anymore, and I couldn't care less if she liked the current show or not.

I like the way the show as is, and I like where it's going. Call me overly optimistic or whatever, but that's how I feel and my opinion's not going to change.

[WriteCodes46 178]

Lauren Faust was interviewed at Equestria L.A. 2015 back in September. There, she was asked by M.A. Larson:

 

"What's your impression, of the bronies' impression of you?"

 

And she responded:

 

"You know, I feel like you don't miss me. I feel like people can't tell the difference between the episodes I worked on and the episodes I didn't work on, and that all that work really wasn't worth it. It's like you guys like it just the same without me."

 

Which implies she doesn't approve of post-Season 2 episodes, and also doesn't approve of bronies liking them.

Edited December 6, 2015 by WriteCodes46

[Cleverclover 1,526]

Is there any particular reason for the blatant disdain for Faust which is prevalent in this thread? 

 

I still feel sorry for her, honestly.