SteveMorison 407 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Obviously every episode still has a moral, but it seems now that moral is for the viewer to figure out for him/herself rather than be recited by one of the characters at the end of each episode. Was there any episodes with the journal in season 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floofie 799 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 No, there weren't any episodes with the journal in Season 5. The characters don't recite the moral at the end of each episode anymore. And why should they? I think it's better if they leave the moral for the viewers to figure out by themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moved to Elsewhere 11,331 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 There are still morals. They are just told in a more natural, subtle way to flow with the episode instead of hammering in, "DEAR PRINCESS CELESTIA!" At the end of every episode. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 27,969 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Still hoping for an episode where they bring back "Journal Entries" in some way only for it to be something incredibly mundane and dumb like "Lightning Dust is a poopyhead" or "fuck the DMV(horse equivalent" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeSix 116 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Perhaps it could be explained as the show ageing with its viewers; after all, the children this show is largely aimed at are five years older now than they were when the show started, so perhaps the show's writers are aiming to grow the show to support a slowly-maturing target audience while still involving new young children? Just a thought, not sure if it really makes sense in context. Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesme Rize 15,690 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 I am glad the morals at the end is gone. I think the morals of these episodes are easy to figure out by themselves and don't need a letter or journal entry at the end. 4 My OC Mesme Rize: >https://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/mesme-rize-r8777 Thank you Randimaxis for this Wonderful Avatar. Please, don't be afraid to talk to me. I am not as unapproachable, as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeSix 116 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 I am glad the morals at the end is gone. I think the morals of these episodes are easy to figure out by themselves and don't need a letter or journal entry at the end. Aye, it did feel quite often like it was stating the damned obvious. Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Qiviut 22,534 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Morals still exist, but they're not so spelled out anymore. By removing the journal/friendship lesson, you can weave the moral into the script more subtly, and the approach comes out more naturally. Several episodes last season were aided by their subtlety, including Amending Fences, Slice of Life, Crusaders of the Lost Mark, and The Cutie Re-Mark. "Talent is a pursued interest." — Bob Ross Pro-Brony articles: 1/2/3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy with the CMB 5,876 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 They wouldn't really be able to have lessons at the end of the episode anymore. Like people are saying, they might think that the lessons aren't needed. Twilight is a princess, by the way - not a student. Who would she write to? The other ponies aren't Celetia's students, and as it happens, they seem to havve learned to overcome their problems - even if they had something to tell Celestia about what they learned, Twilight could probably just tell her. Romans 10:9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeSix 116 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 They wouldn't really be able to have lessons at the end of the episode anymore. Like people are saying, they might think that the lessons aren't needed. Twilight is a princess, by the way - not a student. Who would she write to? The other ponies aren't Celetia's students, and as it happens, they seem to havve learned to overcome their problems - even if they had something to tell Celestia about what they learned, Twilight could probably just tell her. Yeah, you raise a good point; There's not much use for it with Twilight being the Princess of Friendship; the responsibility's been handed over to her from Celestia. Signature by Kyoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daring_Do 552 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 They wouldn't really be able to have lessons at the end of the episode anymore. Like people are saying, they might think that the lessons aren't needed. Twilight is a princess, by the way - not a student. Who would she write to? The other ponies aren't Celetia's students, and as it happens, they seem to havve learned to overcome their problems - even if they had something to tell Celestia about what they learned, Twilight could probably just tell her. The others wrote to her in S2, remember? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy with the CMB 5,876 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 The others wrote to her in S2, remember? Make sure you read the end of my post as well. Romans 10:9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,017 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 The morals of the show are still fully alive and well, but the silly explanations at the end of the episode that summarize said moral? Those are seemingly dead and gone, and to me, good riddance. I never really liked those explanations. I would rather see the morals be told throughout the episode in a subtle manner instead of being told to everyone outright . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetolebob18 728 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 I go w the consensus. The written morals are gone & good riddance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EQ_Theta 469 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Agreed with the episode's moral no longer being stated outright at the end of the episode. It certainly feels a lot more natural to have the episode's moral be a prominent point of focus and having the characters work through the problem they find themselves in and discover what they need to learn. Although I think season 5 had the moral still outright stated around the beginning of The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider float 2,539 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 The journal died at the end of Season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmarston1 5,962 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 Just like how the elements of harmony were removed at the beginning of season 4, it is a good thing that they are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyan 122 December 13, 2015 Share December 13, 2015 (edited) Morals of the show are still there, but not shown in a OBVIOUS way like it was back then in Season 1 and 2 . The morals feel more natural to be understood in general if you pay attention to the episode for the least now. Edited December 13, 2015 by Tonyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMorison 407 December 14, 2015 Author Share December 14, 2015 The journal died at the end of Season 3Strange as it wasn't introduced till season 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824 December 14, 2015 Share December 14, 2015 I like the more subtle telling of morals that leave us to figure it out, instead of summarizing it at the end of the episode. Still, even though Twilight's a Princess, there are still PLENTY to learn. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeWg-TtBRMfqketa1ELyKGg Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/menelik-david-kenneth-cannady 2nd SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thunder-dash-alternative/tracks Pony.fm: https://pony.fm/thunder-dash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunflowerPrincess 345 December 14, 2015 Share December 14, 2015 I'm actually glad that the "dear Princess Celestia" thing is gone, it's much better to figure the moral out by yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manman20x6 359 December 14, 2015 Share December 14, 2015 While I agree that not hitting the viewers over the head with the morals is a good thing most of the time, there are a few episodes where the message is really hard to find. For example, I'm still not sure what the moral of "The Lost Treasure of Griffinstone" is supposed to be. The best I can come up with is "friends are good", but that's a bit too obvious, not to mention that the entire show is constantly telling you that already. I SHIP FLUTTERSHY X BULK BICEPS SO HARD Also, I really like Cloudchaser's mane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlikeable Pony 2,700 December 14, 2015 Share December 14, 2015 To be honest, I kind of like there not being enforced messages. Its possible to have good stories without forcing a lesson after all. Its kind of one thing that I like about the comics, they're free to make comic plots without forcing a lesson in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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