Applebloom is the daughter of Applejack?

[Mr.Hoofs 2]

This discussion isn't new, but, do you think that this is canon?

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

No, I don't.  I do, however, think that AB being adopted is very plausible, given the events of....y'know, whatever the hell that episode was called.  Um....Where the Apple Lies, that was it.  I for one, think it would be an incredibly good move on Hasbro's part to take this route.  Many children are adopted, and many have fears and concerns surrounding this.  It would be such a great and useful message to show a filly who is adopted, but has been thoroughly established as being absolutely no less of an Apple than any of the others.  She's family, through and through.  This would be a great thing for children to see, and many would identify strongly with her.  They should do an entire flashback episode dedicated to her adoption as a foal, but I suspect that Hasbro would never do such a powerful and poignant story for whatever inconceivable reason.

[cmarston1 5,960]

Given how the show refuses to acknowledge AJ's parents even in an episode focusing on her past, this or Apple Bloom being adopted is looking more and more likely.

[Vertigo_95 572]

Transcript from Crusaders of the Lost Mark: 

 

Applejack: Oh, sugarcube, if Mom and Dad were here, they'd be so proud of ya. 

 

Video proof at 1:36 : 

 

I mean, they were mentioned, so they had to exist at some point.

[ashi 261]

No. Apple Bloom is Applejack's little sister.

[Dabmanz 2,139]

Applebloom is applejacks sister also I think theres already a thread for this

https://mlpforums.com/topic/158416-could-applebloom-be-applejacks-daughter/#entry4704136

[cider float 2,539]

Even though we've kept bringing this up DHX studios still makes this misconception, curious.

[LyricaDreamy 43]

Its like saying that Applejack got pregnant as a teen.

[simba86 1,541]

big jim has already said that applejack's parents were on vacation during where the apple lies and had not had applebloom yet

[cider float 2,539]

No, I don't.  I do, however, think that AB being adopted is very plausible, given the events of....y'know, whatever the hell that episode was called.  Um....Where the Apple Lies, that was it.  I for one, think it would be an incredibly good move on Hasbro's part to take this route.  Many children are adopted, and many have fears and concerns surrounding this.  It would be such a great and useful message to show a filly who is adopted, but has been thoroughly established as being absolutely no less of an Apple than any of the others.  She's family, through and through.  This would be a great thing for children to see, and many would identify strongly with her.  They should do an entire flashback episode dedicated to her adoption as a foal, but I suspect that Hasbro would never do such a powerful and poignant story for whatever inconceivable reason.

I can't go with the idea that Apple Bloom was adopted mainly because she has the same cutie mark and name of the rest of the Apples so she would be somewhat blood related to them.

[K1539 47]

My question is, if Applejack is her mom, whose the dad? Yeehaw! Maybe Applejack is hiding it for a reason.

Subliminal jokes aside, I don't think there's anything real to that argument. I think some people get high and come up with ideas they think have leads and this just happens to be one such idea.

[SolarComet 26]

I can't go with the idea that Apple Bloom was adopted mainly because she has the same cutie mark and name of the rest of the Apples so she would be somewhat blood related to them.

Here's the problem with this. Apple bloom's cutie mark is one of the only Apple family cutie marks that isn't

related to some kind of food.

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

I can't go with the idea that Apple Bloom was adopted mainly because she has the same cutie mark and name of the rest of the Apples so she would be somewhat blood related to them.

I don't see how her name would be a counter-argument to the possibility of her being adopted.  It's possible that she didn't even have a name when she was adopted, although the reasons for this seem a bit dark, such as her being abandoned by her mother.  A much more probable scenario is that the Apples simply changed her name when she joined their family.  This isn't such a strange or implausible idea.  Some adopted children in real life are given new names.  One example: my late aunt.  My mother's parents adopted her when she was already at speaking age, and they wanted to give her a new name.  They asked her if she would like that, and she did.  She was excited about it, and actually got to be part of the process of choosing her name, a luxury I wish I could have had.

 

As for her mark, you're overlooking the fact that she is the only Apple in history to not have an apple-related talent.  Her mark has a picture of an apple, yes, (probably because the writers couldn't think of anything else to do) but what her mark represents isn't related to apples, farming, or food whatsoever.  As I've argued many times, cutie marks are simply and outward visualization of a pony's own perception of who they are.  She's an Apple, whether by blood or not.  She knows this is who she is, but her talent is for helping others.  Ergo, it's not surprising that her mark reflects this--both her identity as an Apple, and her passion for helping others.  Furthermore, cutie marks are not genetic.  While it's probable that members of a family will often have similar talents, just like in real life, (e.g. athletic parents often have athletic kids, etc.) it's not a rule.  Moreover, genetics don't dictate what a pony's mark will be.  Marks just show who a pony feels themselves to be, and a large part of this will be environmental.  She was raised as an Apple, so this is part of who she is.  Cutie marks don't necessarily tell you anything about a pony's lineage.  Sweetie Belle and Rarity's marks are nothing alike, for example.

 

 

big jim has already said that applejack's parents were on vacation during where the apple lies and had not had applebloom yet

Oh did he, now?  Well, I guess my headcanon is sunk.  Way to go, Hasbro, for once again blowing a great story opportunity.  It would sure be nice if they actually stated these things on the show.  It would save us all a lot of time if we didn't have to speculate these things.  Why must we constantly be forced to rely on passing comments from staff members at discussion panels or tweets for major canon elements?  Why couldn't they SAY that they were on vacation on the show?  :angry: :baconmane:

[cider float 2,539]

I don't see how her name would be a counter-argument to the possibility of her being adopted.  It's possible that she didn't even have a name when she was adopted, although the reasons for this seem a bit dark, such as her being abandoned by her mother.  A much more probable scenario is that the Apples simply changed her name when she joined their family.  This isn't such a strange or implausible idea.  Some adopted children in real life are given new names.  One example: my late aunt.  My mother's parents adopted her when she was already at speaking age, and they wanted to give her a new name.  They asked her if she would like that, and she did.  She was excited about it, and actually got to be part of the process of choosing her name, a luxury I wish I could have had.

 

As for her mark, you're overlooking the fact that she is the only Apple in history to not have an apple-related talent.  Her mark has a picture of an apple, yes, (probably because the writers couldn't think of anything else to do) but what her mark represents isn't related to apples, farming, or food whatsoever.  As I've argued many times, cutie marks are simply and outward visualization of a pony's own perception of who they are.  She's an Apple, whether by blood or not.  She knows this is who she is, but her talent is for helping others.  Ergo, it's not surprising that her mark reflects this--both her identity as an Apple, and her passion for helping others.  Furthermore, cutie marks are not genetic.  While it's probable that members of a family will often have similar talents, just like in real life, (e.g. athletic parents often have athletic kids, etc.) it's not a rule.  Moreover, genetics don't dictate what a pony's mark will be.  Marks just show who a pony feels themselves to be, and a large part of this will be environmental.  She was raised as an Apple, so this is part of who she is.  Cutie marks don't necessarily tell you anything about a pony's lineage.  Sweetie Belle and Rarity's marks are nothing alike, for example.

 

 

Oh did he, now?  Well, I guess my headcanon is sunk.  Way to go, Hasbro, for once again blowing a great story opportunity.  It would sure be nice if they actually stated these things on the show.  It would save us all a lot of time if we didn't have to speculate these things.  Why must we constantly be forced to rely on passing comments from staff members at discussion panels or tweets for major canon elements?  Why couldn't they SAY that they were on vacation on the show?  :angry: :baconmane:

It being an apple makes it relative to the rest of the Apples why would it take on the form of her name and the Apples though?

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

It being an apple makes it relative to the rest of the Apples why would it take on the form of her name and the Apples though?

I sense a broader confusion about the nature of cutie marks.  I believe that the answer to your question already lies within my original post, but as I was trying to keep my post on point, I wasn't able to write a thorough explanation, so it's understandable that you may have missed it.  I suggest you read this post I made in response to some questions surrounding The Fault in Our Cutie Marks.

 

Assuming you have finished reading that, I can only reiterate that AB's mark is a reflection of who she perceives herself to be: an Apple (i.e. a part of the Apple family), and a Crusader with a passion for helping others.  Furthermore, my theory regarding marks offers the simplest explanation of why each of the CMC have the same shield as part of their mark: because they unanimously decided that this is who they're meant to be.  They created their marks, all of them, together, simultaneously, when they made that decision.  Each of them also has a unique part to their mark reflecting another part of their identity.  In AB's case, this is her identity as an Apple.  Even though her passion is helping others, the farm and her family are still a big part of her life.  She still works at the farm.  In contrast, Sweetie Belle did not get a diamond on her shield because she does not work at the Boutique, nor does her life revolve around her sister's business in any strong way, like Apple Bloom's does with her sister.  Apple Bloom's identity as an Apple, and her self-perception as such, is not predicated on blood relation.  I hope that clears it up.  Of course, as previously established, Big Jim's statement evidently nullifies my headcanon, but I still wanted to come back and demonstrate how Apple Bloom could well be adopted, in theory.

[SunsetBaconDrive 169]

No sane parent leaves their child. Applebloom was the last child born in the Apple family before The Apples passed away.