web Help save Net Neutrality! (URGENT!)

[FlutterDash99 92]

I'm not the only one scared of what will happen once it passes. I made this quick video, I know its made in Movie Maker but I didn't have the time, it gets the point across very quickly. 

 

[Justin_Case001 4,891]

On 12/2/2017 at 0:22 PM, Denim&Venom said:

I'm just going to say the same thing I did in the Net Neutrality debate thread. 

First of all, everypony

 

 

Net Neutrality has only been in effect for a few years. Have the ISPs been censoring content and throttling service prior to that?

 

What scrapping net neutrality does is open the doors for competition. The ISPs can't afford to screw up. They want those customers, and if they do things like censor content or throttle service, than they'll go elsewhere and they'll loose out on a fortune. And if all of them can't get their act together, than a new start up ISP will enter the picture and give them what they want. You're afraid of Verizon and Comcast gettign too much power. With net neutrality, it is now the likes of google, amazon and Facebook that are getting too much power.

 

Think of net neutrality this way: Imagine a concert hall. Seats near the front are expensive. Hundreds of dollars. Seats up top are cheap. Like 10 or 20 bucks. What Net Neutrality does is have everyone pay the same. All seats are like $60. Sounds fair right? Well, not until you realize that while it makes premium seats cheaper, it'll be the rich who eat them all up at a bargain, while everyone else now has to pay the same price for seats that are no where near worth that much. That's what's happening.

 

Not everyone needs top tier streaming and bandwidth options. But the little guys, the one's whose small time ventures would benefit from modest service, have to pay more. That's why Google, YT, FB are still on top. They want to be the only option while paying a discount rate. Scrap net neutrality, they'll start receiving competition form mom and pop developers and the services they provide.

 

And on a broader scale, do we really want the government being in control of our internet? You all are paranoid about censorship and throttling. The government can do those same things. Heck, they are in a bigger potion to do so. But they haven't. If they won't do it, then corporations, which don't have as much power or reach, probably won't do so either, just because that will cost them customers.

 

Remember what the internet was originally for. A means of communication to survive and overcome a time of war. If it can survive a war, then it'll survive this. Competition is a good thing. Let the providers fight for my patronage. And if those companies do cross a line somewhere, then we can react. Then we can have congress step in and make laws to rectify the situation. But so far, nothing's happened. 

 

In the end though, no matter who wins, everyone will have to pay more. Net Neutrality stays, you'll be paying for it in taxes. NN goes, you'll be paying for it as a customer. Either way, the price needs to be payed. 

 

That's the big take away. The internet is not free. Somebody has to pay for it. And it'll be a lot as a tax payer, or a lot as a customer. 

 

In the end though, I doubt much will change. The 90s and 00s were fine without net neutrality. This whole debacle will be held up for years in court anyways. Why don't we wait until something does go wrong, before taking up arms at something that could go wrong. 

 

 

Here's a few articles on the cons of Net Neutrality. Look at both sides of the argument before you plant your flag. 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2014/05/19/why-net-neutrality-is-a-dumb-idea/#797f08ea6b41

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-11-21/the-end-of-net-neutrality-isn-t-the-end-of-the-world

 

And I will say once again that I hope you're right.  I really do.

For everyone else who wants to save NN, and are scared about what might happen without it, please continue to fight as hard as you can.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

[Denim&Venöm 19,041]

5 hours ago, Justin_Case001 said:

And I will say once again that I hope you're right.  I really do.

For everyone else who wants to save NN, and are scared about what might happen without it, please continue to fight as hard as you can.

https://www.battleforthenet.com/

In the end, the internet is not free. Someone will have to pay for it.

Will you pay for it like a company service or pay for it like a government tax? 

Which service will benefit you the most?

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,534]

43 minutes ago, Denim&Venom said:

In the end, the internet is not free. Someone will have to pay for it.

Will you pay for it like a company service or pay for it like a government tax? 

Which service will benefit you the most?

Of course the internet isn't free. I get a bill every single month that tells me that. Is that not enough?

Anywho:

Let's hope the resistance will be strong enough to combat this obvious ploy of greed. This will get passed, I have no doubts on that, so it is all up to what happens after that.

[Libra 11,691]

On 12/10/2017 at 7:34 AM, Denim&Venom said:

In the end, the internet is not free. Someone will have to pay for it.

Will you pay for it like a company service or pay for it like a government tax? 

Which service will benefit you the most?

I hope to god youre right.

because i swear to god if i see a "sorry, you cant use youtube because you dont have the Youtube package! Get it for just $5.95 per month!" Hell have no fury like me. Monthly paid subscriptions in video games make me salty enough, i dont want there to be monthly paid subscriptions because youtube rertuses to supply my isp's paychecks.

[Alex2002ita 60]

I'm intruding here for a moment to put a link to a petition on change.org that is reaching 1.5M signatures (currently) to save Net Neutrality: Petition - Save Net Neutrality
I will give my opinion on this question later.

P.S: I know, change.org is a useless website, but at least we can try hard to save our Internet

@Millennium ShadowCan you please insert this link in your first post?

Edited December 11, 2017 by Alex2002ita

[Justin_Case001 4,891]

On 12/10/2017 at 5:34 AM, Denim&Venom said:

In the end, the internet is not free. Someone will have to pay for it.

Will you pay for it like a company service or pay for it like a government tax? 

Which service will benefit you the most?

Not really sure I get this whole "the internet is not free" argument.  Of course it's not free.  I already pay a monthly bill for it.  And I understand that costs go up as time goes on, just like all utilities.  Y'know, cost of living increase and all that jazz?  If my monthly internet bill goes up by ten bucks or something, that's fine.  I can handle that.  What I cannot handle is not being allowed to use any site that I want.  I cannot handle being blocked from using youtube because it competes with my ISP's video streaming service.  I cannot handle not being able to download a game on Steam without paying a separate fee for each bloody game I want to play.  I cannot handle having these forums shut down because they're stuck in the slow lane.  I cannot handle having to choose packages that include the sites I want, and basically buying access to each individual site.  That's my big fear.  That system works with TV because there's a finite number of channels, and it's not that many.  I can buy a package that includes everything I want.  The internet can't function like that.  We need open access to all sites.  Now, maybe that bad stuff won't happen, but the point is that it could happen.  It didn't pre-2015, but that may just be because the ISPs didn't have enough time to implement that system, and hadn't gotten around to it yet.  Maybe everything will be fine, but I'd rather have protections in place to make sure it's fine.