Forum Update Completed - Issue List

[Madame Rarity 592]

Think I can't see this very well here

[ExplosionMare 18,062]

The reaction thing is invisible, although it still works like normal

[BornAgainBrony 2,397]

15 hours ago, Califorum said:

Would there be one created at some point? Since looking at it without the dark mode is blinding.

*ahem* 

Celestia mode and Luna mode

[Rikifive 24,120]

Maybe it's because I got used to it, but the site now has a much higher width, which covers almost the entire screen, making everything appear far away from each other leaving tons of unused space all over the place and the site background barely visible.

I believe previously the container had max-width set to 1340px or something close to that, now it is set to 95%, which yeah keeps some space for background in displays lower than 1340px (but no lower than 979px, 'coz the site width is 100% on mobile), but it looks empty-ish on bigger screens. I'd prefer having the width capped as it was before, but I suppose I could get used to it's okay for everyone else.

 

6 hours ago, Dynamo Pad said:

I'm not sure if it was mentioned before, but I just noticed that the edit option is gone. I wanted to edit a response I made to a topic, but I found that it was nowhere to be found. Hopefully,  the edit option can be fixed. 

The edit option can be found in the upper-right corner of your post, in the menu behind three dots.

[King of Canterlot 9,603]

3 hours ago, Madame Rarity said:

Think I can't see this very well here

Yes I second this. It's really hard to see black on a dark purple  

Oh I'm also going to add that the "recent visitors" block on my profile page has vanished too 

Edited January 1, 2021 by King of Canterlot

[Jeric 46,850]

1 hour ago, Califorum said:

I don't get notifications for being quoted and post counts aren't showing up.

We removed post counts from the user pane when viewing a topic. You can still see them in several other places tho. 
 

Check your notification preferences for me to see if they were reset (something that is part of a upgrade is that they force us to push a change for default user notification preferences)

[Jeric 46,850]

1 hour ago, Rikifive said:

I believe previously the container had max-width set to 1340px or something close to that, now it is set to 95%, which yeah keeps some space for background in displays lower than 1340px (but no lower than 979px, 'coz the site width is 100% on mobile), but it looks empty-ish on bigger screens. I'd prefer having the width capped as it was before, but I suppose I could get used to it's okay for everyone else.

I’ve been constantly tweaking the max-width to try and find a balance between seeing the background and the content. I’ll keep making changes as I keep testing the different view port sizes. 

[Jeric 46,850]

1 minute ago, Califorum said:

Why did you remove post count from public view? That doesn't make any sense. I'll look.

Several reasons. It’s redundant clutter in a block of information that should be clean and doesn’t have a lot or real estate to waste. In a topic the most important thing is the content, who posted the content, and instead of post count we display a badge. We also removed reputation count from that area. They are always visible when someone visits your profile, something that is encouraged by not displaying all the data near your profile image. Historically since 2011 and until 2017 these were not visible. People placed wayyyy too much focus on post count and # of brohooves, so to prevent that we cleaned up the posts a lot. 
 

@BornAgainBrony I think I would be thrown out of the fandom if I didn’t call a Dark Mode  .... “Luna” mode

 

[Jeric 46,850]

1 minute ago, Califorum said:

Well I can't find any tabs or settings that allowed me to view posts. Will the 'Element of Generosity' stay?

Can you elaborate of your first sentence? What do you mean when you say can’t find settings to allow you to view posts? 
 

The MCM badge stays until 30 days after the event ends so you have it until Feb 15

[Jeric 46,850]

Moments ago, Califorum said:

I'm a wee bit disappointed that the badge will go away on the 15th. There is no setting that says 'view posts' with a checkbox or anything like that. I can't find that.

8 MCM’s and it’s always been temporary. 
 

So you are trying to find a way to view your old posts or other posts? 

 

 

[Jeric 46,850]

Moments ago, Califorum said:

I am trying to find a way to enable the viewing of posts in public areas.

You mean the post count? 

[Jeric 46,850]

Moments ago, Califorum said:

Yes, exactly that. I would like to see the post count when viewing threads and posts.

Oh. I wasn’t as clear as I thought. We removed that from the code on purpose and it won’t be returning for the reasons I listed above. You can still see a user’s statistics on their profile. We are going back the way it was for about the first 7 years of the Forum. Simple, clean, and elegant. 
 

But if you are curious about another users statistics they are one quick click away and they may appreciate a follow if you found their content interesting. 
 

Basically, it’s gone and there isn’t a setting to bring it back. There isn’t a setting to take it away either. The PHP and HTML that called that data was deleted this morning intentionally. So it is now working and being displayed as intended. Well .... there are always more style changes to come. 
 

 

Below is where you can find the current stats. I know it isn’t the answer you were looking for, but we were deliberate in this decision. 

 

 

 

 

[Jeric 46,850]

13 minutes ago, Califorum said:

@Jeric

I personally disagree with this decision. Without seeing the post count on threads, posts, etc, I feel less incentive to post in general. It looks bland.

This is a little within the scope of the reason for the change. We do not want users to create posts and replies to topics because they are incentivized by post count. We want them to post because they have something to say within the confines of the topic. 
 

My grandfather had a saying that I still consider an important guiding principle in my life. “Do a thing for the right reason.” 
 

Simple, but a salient point of view when you are managing an online community. Also appropriate for those that post for statistics that have little meaningful value on their own. 

 

[Tacodidra 61,043]

Logging in doesn't work properly, at least for me. If I fill my data in the fields that appear at the top of the screen (regardless of whether I use my display name or email), I get a message saying my username or password is incorrect (I actually got locked out trying to sign in earlier tonight). Signing in through Poniverse works the way it should.

[Silly Druid 6,900]

I'm getting this error:

[Clawdeen 12,189]

1 hour ago, Tacodidra said:

Logging in doesn't work properly, at least for me. If I fill my data in the fields that appear at the top of the screen (regardless of whether I use my display name or email), I get a message saying my username or password is incorrect (I actually got locked out trying to sign in earlier tonight). Signing in through Poniverse works the way it should.

I actually have this issue as well. I got locked out of my account earlier trying to log in. I’m able to sign in through poniverse fine.

[Twilight Sparkle97 402]

@Jeric For some reason, I had to reset my password on my account this morning. I couldn't log on this morning. I'm not sure if the forum upgrade affected my password or if someone purposely changed my password, but I would like to know what really happened. 

[Rikifive 24,120]

  

47 minutes ago, Jeric said:

I’ve been constantly tweaking the max-width to try and find a balance between seeing the background and the content. I’ll keep making changes as I keep testing the different view port sizes. 

Perhaps using both, % and px could be a good option? For example if you'd still like to have at least that 5% for background, you could add a cap to that, let's say, normally have 1340px and switch to 95% when the display has less than 1430px (and then it would be further modified with current settings to 100% for screens lower than 979px).

  

38 minutes ago, Califorum said:

I personally disagree with this decision. Without seeing the post count on threads, posts, etc, I feel less incentive to post in general. It looks bland.

If that makes things somewhat better, there's still the badge, that is connected to your post count displayed.

To be honest I also preferred having that displayed in posts. At least a tiny number would be nice.  ...Buuuuuut in the end it's not a big deal for me I suppose.

28 minutes ago, Tacodidra said:

Logging in doesn't work properly, at least for me. If I fill my data in the fields that appear at the top of the screen (regardless of whether I use my display name or email), I get a message saying my username or password is incorrect (I actually got locked out trying to sign in earlier tonight). Signing in through Poniverse works the way it should.

20 minutes ago, Operetta said:

I actually have this issue as well. I got locked out of my account earlier trying to log in. I’m able to sign in through poniverse fine.

If I recall correctly, before the upgrade, clicking the login button instantly redirected you to Poniverse - so you've been always logging in through Poniverse. Changing the password on forums also redirected you to Poniverse. It looks like passwords between Poniverse and MLPF accounts aren't synced, so typing in the same data in the MLPF login box results in incorrect passwords, same as MLPF - Poniverse usernames aren't the same thing and can be different. Basically your Poniverse account handles logging in. I suppose users shouldn't see the login box on the forums and that it might be removed later? idk, but anyway, try logging in through Poniverse, as you always did.

[Twilight Sparkle ✨ 8,526]

1 hour ago, Califorum said:

That makes sense however seeing numbers go up due to something you are doing is satisfying for everyone I bet.  

The "rank badge" under your avatar (that starts at Blank Flank, then progresses through Muffin > Cupcake > etc.) is meant as a fun replacement for in-thread post counters that rewards you with a progression of new badges as you make more posts over time but without emphasizing the specific number as an important piece of information for all the world to know while reading your content. The FAQ page that contains the list is sadly broken at the moment (there's lots to still fix up that broke during the upgrade) but here's a partial screenshot of the list from the admin panel:

These badges fulfil the "fun" aspects of post counts but differ spirit by reinforcing MLPF's pony theme (everyone starts as a Blank Flank, just like newborn foals!) and feel more like long-term rewards for ongoing contributions to the community; watching a generic number count up with every post, in comparison, is more like the short-term dopamine jolts from getting a like on a Facebook post. Yes yes, I know we have a brohoof/reactions system but there are no "rewards" for it beyond the software's "won the day" thing and a somewhat hidden "leaderboard"). Being motivated to earn the next badge is more fun and creates a friendlier community atmosphere in my opinion than being motivated to increment a counter over and over again.

Most forums show post counters because that's what most forum software does out of the box but I've observed it subtly breeding elitism over time on many sites, creating a sense of classism between longtime users and new ones. This has torn apart more forums I've been on in the past than I can count; de-emphasizing the counters helps make the site more welcoming to newer as well as less active users by not constantly intimidating them with higher numbers than their own that we humans reflexively compare and generate feelings about - and making MLPF fun for new users is just as important as keeping it fun for everyone who's already here.

Please give the new look without these counters a chance and pay attention to your feelings about posts and their authors as you read various threads and write your posts. The difference is psychological and might be pretty subtle but I expect you'll feel a friendlier vibe to the site after an adjustment period.

Edited January 2, 2021 by Twilight Sparkle ✨
fix broken screenshot

[Sparklefan1234 169,691]

What does it mean when mentions are light blue? 

[Rikifive 24,120]

14 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

What does it mean when mentions are light blue? 

You mean like this @Sparklefan1234? Stylization of mentions has changed in the software update. It's just how it looks now, there's nothing special behind that.

Beware of flashbangs in boop threads 

7 minutes ago, Califorum said:

Where is the 'recent visitors' tab on profiles, is that removed from this update? Where you can see users who recently viewed your profile.

It is where it was, but at the bottom. Previously it was somewhere at the top, now, at least at the moment, it's the last block.

[Rikifive 24,120]

4 hours ago, King of Canterlot said:

Oh I'm also going to add that the "recent visitors" block on my profile page has vanished too 

If you're still looking for this, it is where it was, but at the bottom.  

4 minutes ago, Califorum said:

Thats quite strange, hmm. I guess there is a lot of discovery to do in these new updates, eh?

New forum layout/theme was one of the bigger mentions regarding what's in the update, so yeah, expect things to be a bit different and/or placed somewhere else.

6 minutes ago, Califorum said:

Will there be a dark mode? 

You asked that already and Jeric has already gave you an answer:

21 hours ago, Jeric said:

Yes. This is certainly on the recent to do list in the near future.

If you meant to ask me in particular / for my input, then I can't add anything more to what Jeric has said, as I'm not in charge of themes. 

[Sparklefan1234 169,691]

31 minutes ago, Rikifive said:

You mean like this @Sparklefan1234? Stylization of mentions has changed in the software update. It's just how it looks now, there's nothing special behind that.

Beware of flashbangs in boop threads 

 

Oh. I thought light blue meant someone wasn't online. 

[Jeric 46,850]

@Twilight Sparkle ✨ beat me to the punch on a few things. The brohoof rep button is now visible. 

[Jeric 46,850]

Re: Login issues. The internal login was removed. We only use the Poniverse login. Sorry I missed that guys.