Old/new Brony differences?

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

 PEOPLE!!!! I AM NOT CATEGORIZING PEOPLE!!!! I AM JUST SHOWING WHAT I'VE NOTICED AND WONDERNIG IF ANYONE HAS NOTICED IT OR OTHERWISE!!!!!!! 

 

Sorry if that's not what you think you are doing, but you are clearly categorizing people. It's in the name title: Old Bronies and New Bronies. You're saying that you are seeing this and this that the new bronies do and that the old bronies don't do, and whatever way you put it, you're completely putting new bronies and old bronies in completely different categories and stereotyping. There's no excuses, there is definite categorization in the OP.

Edited January 9, 2013 by Scootabloom

[Flicker Sweet 3,391]

Sorry if that's not what you think you are doing, but you are clearly categorizing people. It's in the name title: Old Bronies and New Bronies. You're saying that you are seeing this and this that the new bronies do and that the old bronies don't do, and whatever way you put it, you're completely putting new bronies and old bronies in completely different categories and stereotyping. There's no excuses, there is definite categorization in the OP.

re-read the title, it clearly says old/new Brony differences

I'm not going to argue about this, I'm not sitting here and saying, "if you do this you're a new Brony, if you do that you're an old Brony."

pay attention, what I am CLEARLY doing is EXACTLY WHAT I SAID I'M DOING: observing and sharing.

Edited January 9, 2013 by Red and Blue

[Winona the Dog 1,984]

This was pretty much bound to happen anyway. As the fanbase itself grows it will get bigger and bigger until its pretty much over saturated  Those "New Bronies" are kinda like comparing a 2000's kids with a 80's kid (Ex: Well back in mah day we had..... etc.) 

[duidamasterXD 9,627]

I've been a brony since August, so you can decide whether I'm new or old. Probably new.

 

Anyhow as for the issues you've brought up I'll throw out whether they apply to me or not.

 

I'm completely indifferent to Derpy, and I have said so, but I did say that I'd like to have her make cameos to make her fans happy.

 

I never made an OC because I never saw any point in it.

 

And I'm always excited to see the show. It's kind of why I'm here in the first place.

 

So there you go. Feel free to decide if I'm ruining the fandom or something.

Edited January 9, 2013 by DashForever

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

re-read the title, it clearly says old/new Brony differences

Oh goodness

 

Let me explain to you what I meant by that.

 

I wasn't repeating the exact name of the title; I was saying what your title had implied and what it consisted of.

 

I'm not going to argue about this, I'm not sitting here and saying, "if you do this you're a new Brony, if you do that you're an old Brony."

pay attention, what I am CLEARLY doing is EXACTLY WHAT I SAID I'M DOING: observing and sharing.

 

Observation leads to assumptions and stereotyping. Things that people "observe" about different people groups is basically stereotyping and assuming.

 

Let's use a random made up nation: Yingalot.

 

If I noticed that a lot of Yingalotians are overweight, shouting out "HAY, HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT ALOT OF Yingalotians ARE FAT?" isn't going to please a lot of the people there. It's assuming, whatever way you put it. You should know better than to shout out how you aren't assuming when you were bound to get those remarks when you created this thread.

[Radiance64 7,053]

I don't know, I really don't like the idea of generalizing new and old bronies, I mean we all got into the show in different ways for different reasons. In the end everypony is equal imo, we all have our own little nitpicks, opinions, character ideas, etc.

I foresee lots and lots of nostalgia goggling in this thread.

 

Also, I've seen more older bronies complain about the show than I have seen newer ones.

Hm, if you mean about the newer episodes, I suppose I've been guilty of that, but I have liked most of them.

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

 I apologize if you found anything in this post offensive, though, honestly, I don't see how you could.....

 

I hope you're joking when you say that. Like my previous example, it's just like going into a nation and saying this, this, and this about them and expecting them to not care just because they're "observations." It doesn't work that way, mate.

[Flicker Sweet 3,391]

I hope you're joking when you say that. Like my previous example, it's just like going into a nation and saying this, this, and this about them and expecting them to not care just because they're "observations." It doesn't work that way, mate.

No, contrary to popular belief, I was actually trying to be serious with this.  I was just saying "hey I've noticed a bit of a trend"

but APPARENTLY observing anything about a group of people automatically means you are stereotyping them.  APPARENTLY you can't say what you mean without people trying to "imply" random ass shit from what you said.

I'm getting this thread locked, I'm done here.

[angels_gal 204]

I am a new brony myself haven't even been here a year. I may be new but I still love Derpy! but I  guess the fact that I'm new means i'm stupid or useless or something like that. lol

[XUNUSEDXXX 3,459]

No, contrary to popular belief, I was actually trying to be serious with this.  I was just saying "hey I've noticed a bit of a trend"

but APPARENTLY observing anything about a group of people automatically means you are stereotyping them.  APPARENTLY you can't say what you mean without people trying to "imply" random ass shit from what you said.

I'm getting this thread locked, I'm done here.

Look at the bolded part. I might mean to say that I just observed something, but like I've said before, observations lead to stereotypes in many many cases and cause conflict, especially when you are talking about certain people.

[Ron J 276]

I noticed that a lot of the newer bronies tend to criticize people/things in the fandom, like clopping/cloppers and grimdark stuff, while the older bronies probably just don't care about it in the first place. It's probably just me who thinks this.

 

The time someone decides to watch the show doesn't really matter to me, as long as they don't go overboard with anything or try to drag other people in to watching it or something like that.

[Zygen 6,066]

Well, technically speaking of course I am newer in a sense, but honestly in my opinion it doesn't matter if someone is a newer or older brony directly.

 

It does make some differences, because technically the more popular the show gets the easier it is for people to feel comfortable joining(If people are doing it then people will tag along easier and feel more comfortable about it) The people who join before this happens just have a higher chance of being I suppose more mature overall about the whole thing and being more devoted to the fandom because they made the choice more on their own most of the time.

 

However alot of the reasons as to why people who are newer do some of the things mentioned is simply because they just became a brony and don't really know the whole purpose of what being a brony is about, and the do's and don't's of being a brony. I can speak from this personally because I'll be honest when I first joined the fandom I really had almost no idea what a brony was, Yes my first rough draft of my OC was an Alicorn, and I had really no idea what I was doing, I did alot of stupid things, and overall I was not very experienced in knowing exactly what being a brony is about.

 

Of course normally I'm pretty mature so I'm not the type to go cursing somebody out for disliking the show or something, but I was still not aware of many things about brony's therefore I tended to just follow around until I gained my footing.

 

There will be newer and older people who will just be flat out immature and do many of the things mentioned, but it really isn't specific to either group. Maybe its more rare in the older group but still.

 

I think some of the newer bronies just need to learn the ropes first before they can understand everything. However with a fandom this big theres bound to be tons of people from all walks of life, that includes people who are just immature.

 

I have nothing against anybody from posting this, I don't mean to bash you or any newer or older bronies, I'm just saying that it can happen to anypony, and I think that maybe the newer members need a little time to get their footing(Or hoofing hehe . ) On being a brony, because many might be like me when I first joined knowing nothing about being a brony.

 

(Sorry for the rambling, btw. And long post.)

[Rfaliuntbtoewrdsahsyh 5]

I'm certainly what you'd call a "new brony", seeing as I only really got into the fandom around two months ago. Be that as it may, I certainly don't complain about Derpy, create overpowered OCs, or complain about the show too much. That's just not in my nature. I simply enjoy the show and discuss it with other people that enjoy the show. However, I do think a lot of the new fans are just hopping on the bandwagon, and do follow the tendencies you mentioned. This sort of thing always happens whenever something starts getting increasingly popular, there's really no stopping it.

That's the same with me, I'm probably the newest brony on this form, 1 month. But I don't have a overpowered oc (actually just a unicorn that really can just lift things with my powers), like Derpy, although I am a little bit sarcastic.

[~Master~ Button Mash 2,307]

I joined the herd at the end of November, and joined this site in early December, so I'm definitely quite a new brony. But I try to keep the mindset of an older brony. Derpy is one of my favorite characters.

 

As for criticizing parts of the fandom, I try to keep it to a minimum. Of course there is stuff I don't like, but I hold my tongue and tolerate it. For example, things like Scootabuse disturbs me deeply, but instead of complaining, I just choose to ignore it. If you don't like part of the fandom or certain themes, just don't make it a part of your personal fanon universe. That's the beauty of fanon, you can make it whatever you want.

 

Yes, my OC is a pegasus, but that's because he's my ponysona, and he's supposed to be a reflection of my real life status as a student pilot. I spent a lot of time trying to avoid making him OP while still making him unique (he's an altitude/duration pegasus instead of a speed pegasus, which I think is a fair trade-off).

Edited January 9, 2013 by StratoPegasus

[Fender 1,283]

While I am new-ish, I don't tend to resemble how Red described the "new" bronies. I started watching the show in August 2012, and actually became a hardcore fan in mid September. I have loved every episode of every season so far even though some episodes tend to be lesser, I appreciate them all still and would watch them again any day.

 

My OC was intended to be a pegasus, simply because I like the idea of flying more than I do the idea of magic, besides, I don't want a horn on my head. -_-  Anyway, my pegasus has no role of power really, if anything, he's my ponysona and just a regular guy looking to get by in life.

 

Now, regarding the whole Derpy thing...I'm on both sides of that argument.

Derpy is a background pony, and because of that I appreciate the fandom making her a star, just like any of the other background ponies. How many shows do you get where background characters actually matter that much to the fans, I think it's something we should treasure, but never get carried away with. Don't hate either side of the argument is my view.

 

Now- the Love and Tolerance Policy- don't get the idea that this is to be forced upon people for being in the fandom, it may still require them being broken into the attitude, but if that's the case, THEY have to do it. Don't come at them with the idea that because they are at times, intolerant, that they're a fake/bad brony. Bronies do ACTUALLY celebrate the themes of love and tolerance, yes, HOWEVER, it is never an instant change.

 

There you go.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

Perhaps newer bronies are more blazen, confident, and some would say reckless because they've come into the fandom when we've now consolidated our power. Whereas the older bronies have had a more sobering experience building it, and themselves, up.

 

I'm not really sure where I fall in, the brony community existed when I joined . . . . was it . . . two years ago? How long have we been around even? Either way, from the above description, I identify with older bronies more.

 

- I love Derpy, and while I believe there was some . . . small overreaction to the Derpy Incident, I still support her appearance.

 

- My ponysona is a pegasus pony, but one who is NOT a particularly strong, fast, or agile flier. In other words, not Wonderbolt material. True he can use a sword, but he's based off of me and I can use sword. I even have a basic, but somewhat low-key backstory. About the most amazing thing about me is being a close associate of Fancypants. (Note: If even THAT sounds like too much, sue me! He's my favorite character and at least I'm not one of seemingly hundreds of black coated, lost royals with red stripes and dragon wings!)

 

- I certainly make no apologize to being a brony, but I understand it's not for everyone. I would certainly defend it, if pressed, and I am somewhat in the open about it. So I guess, in this respect, I resemble a newer brony. But I at least would like to think that comes more from enthusiasm than jingoism.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Steel Accord

[Pencil Hoof 169]

- I certainly make no apologize to being a brony, but I understand it's not for everyone. I would certainly defend it, if pressed, and I am somewhat in the open about it. So I guess, in this respect, I resemble a newer brony. But I at least would like to think that comes more from enthusiasm than jingoism.

I don't think anyone said that older bronies were less defensive of the show, just that they weren't so in-your-face about it.

 

Anyway, I'll probably post my personal opinion soon

[Milk Wave 454]

From what im looking at, im a newer brony with older brony traits.

I became an official brony at the start of season 3:

 

-Ive loved every episode including the ones people complain about

 

-My oc (who hasnt been shown yet) is a pretty sex crazed balanced pegasus. Cant fly very fast, but can handle like a dream around bends and such.

 

And the fact that I dont care about anyone hating the show, makes me ehh...

I hate depression.

 

-OH, and I dont really care much about derpu. She's pretty sweet and all, but she's just a background character so I could care less.

Edited January 10, 2013 by Sun Wave

[morethanicecream 116]

I'm not saying every new Brony is this way, but a lot seem to be mean. I mean, when my brother joined, he seemed to be more cocky. But it all has to do with maturity. I feel like the reason is because our group is reaching now out to younger people. I see so many new bronies that are younger than 13. I feel that some are being a bit harsh. I am talking not about everyone, but some are.

[GoneForeverBye 184]

Damn. Why do these threads attract me...? I don't even like having these sorts of discussions... oh well, my point five bits: I don't care if someone is new or not, and I don't classify them by things such as "old vs new" or that sort of things. For example, I know a really great guy who joined quite recently, but he's nicer than some of the "earlier" bronies I've seen around.

 

Still though, I do have to partially agree with someone who posted here before. As I see it, Erio explained it perfectly... or at least, that's how I see it. But still, I'd rather, personally, not take up such generalization though, and just think of each individual equal, basing them of their behaviour and maturity, and not on when they joined the fandom or something trivial like that.

 

Anyhow, me nitpicking over i-don't-even-freaking-know is over. Continue the actual discussion.

Edited January 11, 2013 by OlegEqualzName

[Hansel 1,512]

I first started watching the show towards the end of the first season. I was originally a fan of the characters and art work/animation, and didn't start getting into the narrative until a little later, I'm not sure if that makes me old or new exactly, especially seeing as it hasn't even been three years since the show first aired. 

 

I understand the kind of people/posts the OP is talking about, but I'm not entirely sure if you can simply draw the line at old and new, especially considering that being new to this forum doesn't necessarily mean your new to the fanbase, which I think is important to remember. It makes the line between old and new a bit hazy. 

I only joined this particular forum a few months ago, but I've been a fan of one kind or another since at least  July/August 2011. I think part of what the OP is talking about has to do with the fandom now having it's own etiquette, which older fans were eased into and even helped create, whilst newer fans are jumping straight into the deep end, without really knowing much. I hope that makes sense. 

 

Honestly, I just love the show, and I love Derpy. I have my complaints about the show, it's not perfect, but nothing ever is. However, I don't think I've ever started a thread complaining about it.

The fanbase has it's fair share of... um... well, silly people (I'll leave it at that for now), but what fandom doesn't? If anything, considering how big the fandom is at the moment and compared to other fanbases, it seems to have less then I would expect, at least from my personal experience. I think the worst kind of fans I've come across has been on the Youtube comments section.

Edited January 11, 2013 by Hansel

[Abstract 832]

The only real difference I've seen between newer/older bronies, is the formers' usually unbridled enthusiasm and zeal for the show, whereas those who have been around for a while are generally much more reserved and held back in their opinions of the show and fandom. What this means is, the newer bronies are generally much more likely to have a harder time keeping their cool when it comes to tolerating differing opinions/haters. At least, this has been my experience. It's not a bad thing to have something you love you so much you'd fight to the bone to defend it; but you must know when you're being trolled, and when it's just time to give up. These are things these "young" bronies learn in time.

 

The only thing that irks me about the older bronies, is the "hipster" attitude many of them attain. The whole, "I liked MLP before it was cool, so I'm better than you" bullshit. The problem is, many of them aren't so upfront about it, and therefore sometimes don't even realize how condescending some of their words are.

 

But in the end, all of that is besides the point, which is: we are all one fandom, one in the same. Some of us young, some of us old; some of us new, some of us long-timers. This fandom has spawned an oft-repeated phrase, "Love and tolerate." While not actually a part of the show, it's nonetheless a damn good principle to live by if you ask me. There are those of us who seem to not believe in such a concept; It makes me sad that a human being could reject that wonderful message. (Especially considering the number of MLP episodes that very much lean towards the idea)

 

We are all bronies, and we should accept each other for who we are; without prejudice or holding our heads high and looking down upon others.

[Concord 1,982]

Hello!

 

Not sure if it's a good idea to spread my opinion on this, but here i go.

 

Personally, i agree with some people when they say, that people start to like MLP because it's getting more popular. Older bronies seem to be more "Loyal" to the show and the community, more loyal to their own behaviour in the community, more understanding, where as some newer ones don't really, stick to it. Another thing i believe, is that older bronies were infact, literally older. Now i've noticed alot more people in the age margin from 10-13. Personally, and from my own experience with myself, i believe it's an age where a person can get really "Annoying"

 

So you can see, that i would stick with the older ones, but as time goes by, i'm sure the newer ones will fit in. It's perfectly normal, one generation leaves, another one comes.

 

I'm an "older" brony by the way.

[kirbyboi 588]

Allow me to explain:

 

>sophisticated, awesome people start to like MLP

>word spreads, more people join

>word spreads even more, exponentially gaining new fans

>n00bz start to like MLP because it seems to be getting popular

>n00bz do stuff like this:

 

 

^ Sums it up perfectly in a nutshell.

 

But not all new bronies are like this, obviously. But yeah, there are some noobz out there who just complain and make mega-powerful OCS. The same thing happened with Minecraft, and others. 

 

Don't get me wrong, not ALL new bronies are bad. There are new bronies who act as if they knew and loved and cared for the show from the beginning. But now that MLP's more popular on the internet and even stores, you'll have a large variety of fans. Both good and bad. 

 

As for Derpy, I agree. I also see posts complaining on people complaining on the show possibly removing Derpy. But geez, Derpy isn't annoying. Bring back Derpy!