How powerful are Celestia, Luna, and Discord?

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  On 2014-10-11 at 5:08 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Luna isn't tricky or clever though, she does nothing without screaming her intentions to the whole world. Celestia has shown far more skill in planning and sneakiness than Luna, with her constant machinations 

Alright, so It would be a half way decent chess player beating a novice. And Celestia couldn't scheme her way out of a paper bag.

 

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 5:08 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

And yet, Luna couldn't do the same for Scootaloo. Must hate her

Yeah, she probably does. 

 

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 5:08 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Oh, so that's plot, but when he gets buffer from eating the Mane 6, it's not?

 

Exactly. 

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So much Luna wank in this forum.

And i read someone say Discord was an omnipotent reality warper?! to lazy to find the post, but lol!

From what we've seen Celestia, and Luna are equal, and the only reason Discord is so dangerous, is because of his reality warping magic. And someone also said Luna moves the Moon and stars? When was that ever stated or shown?

Edited October 11, 2014 by Art Thief

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  On 2014-10-11 at 5:43 PM, Art Thief said:

When was that ever stated or shown?

 

 

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 5:43 PM, Art Thief said:

the only reason Discord is so dangerous, is because of his reality warping magic

Yeah, sort of like how galactus is only dangerous because he can devour planets. Besides that, he's a total pushover! 

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@Art Thief & Stormgiggle,

 

But at the end of the day, one's still a reality-warper, and the other's still a planet-devourer.

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  On 2014-10-11 at 5:15 PM, Stormgiggle said:

Alright, so It would be a half way decent chess player beating a novice. And Celestia couldn't scheme her way out of a paper bag.

She's pulled the strings on Twilight the entire series to make her a princess

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 6:07 PM, Stormgiggle said:

Yeah, sort of like how galactus is only dangerous because he can devour planets. Besides that, he's a total pushover!

Discord isn't strong enough to destroy a single mountain, Galactus can destroy galaxies, invalid comparison 

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  On 2014-10-11 at 6:31 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Discord isn't strong enough to destroy a single mountain

What makes you say that?

 

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 6:31 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

She's pulled the strings on Twilight the entire series to make her a princess

Pfft, please. All she did was mail some random spell book over to Twilight and hope nothing went horribly wrong. 

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  On 2014-10-11 at 6:43 PM, Stormgiggle said:

What makes you say that?

Tirek with Discord's magic plus a ton of other magic couldn't destroy a mountain

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 6:43 PM, Stormgiggle said:

Pfft, please. All she did was mail some random spell book over to Twilight and hope nothing went horribly wrong. 

It goes further back than that. She puts Twilight through a bunch of hoops in Season 3 to test her ability to become a princess 

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  On 2014-10-11 at 6:45 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Tirek with Discord's magic plus a ton of other magic couldn't destroy a mountain

So basically almost all the magic in Equestria can't destroy a single mountain? Why was Tirek trying to steal pony magic again?

 

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 6:45 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

It goes further back than that. She puts Twilight through a bunch of hoops in Season 3 to test her ability to become a princess 

No, she made Twilight do all that stuff because she was to lazy or to weak to do it herself!

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  On 2014-10-11 at 6:55 PM, Stormgiggle said:

So basically almost all the magic in Equestria can't destroy a single mountain? Why was Tirek trying to steal pony magic again?

Because he was able to destroy a building which is still impressive by Equestrian standards

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 6:55 PM, Stormgiggle said:

No, she made Twilight do all that stuff because she was to lazy or to weak to do it herself!

Not an issue of weakness with the Crystal Empire or reforming Discord.

 

Speaking of being lazy, Luna is around far less

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I'd say that they are both very powerful deities because in their world they are representations of gods, each one has an amazing ability, celestia controls the sun while luna controls the moon (therefore technically controlling the ocean) and discord is chaos incarnate

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  On 2014-10-11 at 7:04 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Because he was able to destroy a building which is still impressive by Equestrian standards

No! In his final form he was barely able to destroy trees! TREES! 

And that was with all the magic in Equestria!

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 7:04 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Not an issue of weakness with the Crystal Empire or reforming Discord.

 

Too weak to reform Discord and too lazy to defeat King Sombra.

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  On 2014-10-11 at 7:10 PM, Stormgiggle said:

No! In his final form he was barely able to destroy trees! TREES!  And that was with all the magic in Equestria!

Twilight's library comes to mind, most likely being more sturdy than anything else. But Twilight's giant blast that hit Tirek's shield, while it tore up the ground, when it exploded, the crater wasn't all that large

 

 

  On 2014-10-11 at 7:10 PM, Stormgiggle said:

Too weak to reform Discord and too lazy to defeat King Sombra.

Strength had nothing to do with Discord's reformation, and it wasn't laziness, that's like saying someone's lazy for giving their student a test 

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  On 2014-10-11 at 6:07 PM, Stormgiggle said:

 

 

 

 

Yeah, sort of like how galactus is only dangerous because he can devour planets. Besides that, he's a total pushover! 

Yeah, she said the Moon, not the stars. Where are people getting stars from? Galactus is dangerous for a number of reasons, not only because he can devour a planet.

Edited October 11, 2014 by Art Thief

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  On 2014-10-11 at 7:13 PM, Evil Dragon Master said:

Twilight's library comes to mind, most likely being more sturdy than anything else. But Twilight's giant blast that hit Tirek's shield, while it tore up the ground, when it exploded, the crater wasn't all that large

NO! HE HAD ALL THE MAGIC IN EQUESTRIA, AND THE TREES WERE WINNING! THE TREES WERE WINNING!

 

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Let me put it like this... Alicorn Princess Twilight Sparkle, when her crown was being stollen by Sunset Shimmer, she tried to Teleport in front of Shimmer but when that failed, she tried to tackle her.

 

"Welp, magic didn't work, I'll just jump into her"- The element of magic.

 

It seems magic is very useful in certain situations but is far from the cure-all people say it is. And its silly how people think that Celestia is so powerful that she is a goddess, like I heard that she lost on purpose to Chrysalis because she would accidentally destroy evrything if she used her full power...

 

Please, just catch Celestia by surprise and she goes down like anypony ells!

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  On 2014-10-11 at 7:08 PM, BonafiedLovinBritt said:

I'd say that they are both very powerful deities because in their world they are representations of gods, each one has an amazing ability, celestia controls the sun while luna controls the moon (therefore technically controlling the ocean) and discord is chaos incarnate

I guess that would make the unicorn race gods as well, huh? They (along with Starswirl) were raising the sun and moon LONG before Celestia and Luna came to be crowned princesses, according to the Journal of the Two Sisters

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I wouldn't put them as gods, but just ponies who have trained themselves to be powerful, but this doesn't make them immortal or anything.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Candy Star

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People tend to confuse forever young/super long lived with (indestructable) immortal. They can die. They just don't have the life expectancy most creatures do. And are really powerful by normal creature standards. But there's ways they can be outdone depending on the situation.

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I believe that Luna and Celestia are both inmortal beings, not because of being alicorns, but because they are bound to their respective astros, hence they are extremely powerful, yet not invincible.

 

On the other hand, Discord is able to literally control the world like a mere sandbox. He's bound to chaos, and disarray is always at hand, expecting to creep out at the slightest chance, therefore making him everlasting as well.

 

Full command over physics? Checked.

Infinite energy? Checked.

Eternal life? Checked.

 

You see, Discord could make the world hollow and then play basketball with it. As shown in the canon, they only've been able to stop him with the unfathomable power of the elements turning him to stone (And yet he was still conscious during that time.) and/or by stealing his magic (Tirek).

 

Regarding the lifespans of Twilight and Cadence, I would say that they won't live much longer than a normal pony. Love and friendship, although powerful, are fragile. They're not a celestial body bound to exist for countless ages, or a perception of disarray that always did and always will exist. They represent emotions that may cease to be or may originate during a single lifespan.

 

Be happy for Twi and Candy, they'll get to see their deceased friends and family instead of living an eternal life in sorrow. They're simply no material for such a burden.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Shadow Beam