gaming Pathetic hatred on CoD: Ghosts (and BF4)

[Cerbyrus 63]

So, I've been watching the CoD: Ghosts Multiplayer gameplay by JackFrags.

The hate on the video is just pathetic. Everyone is complaining about Ghosts being the same old game. And honestly, I don't see why. Even though, in my opinion, BF4 looks much better from what I've seen, Ghosts looks like it will be improved a lot. Sure, if you don't like the game, go ahead and leave a dislike. Play what you want to play. That's completely fine. But don't go an hate on a game you've never played. For example, on a BF4 gameplay video, also by JackFrags, I saw this comment: BATTLEFIELD 3.5

 

Just that. Nothing else. Just that.

 

And what kind of use does that stupid fucking comment have? Because it sure doesn't look like usefull feedback. People need to learn that hating games has no use, and that they should let people play whatever they want. I saw people saying it's sad that people will buy Ghosts, even though it's 'exactly the same'. No, that's not sad. It's sad that they make a problem of what people want to play. Don't like it, don't buy it. It's as simple as that.

 

Sorry for this little rant, but I really needed to get this out of my head, so, whatever. Please tell me what you think about the hate.

 

Oh yeah, here's the video link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VwJtmya5NY

[DusK 1,264]

People don't understand what a sequel is. And really, a lot of people are getting really sick of double-standards showing up as well.

 

For example, in the months leading up to Battlefield 3's release in 2011, a lot of people were complaining on a Battlefield-centric forum that the game seems to be too different from Battlefield 2. These same exact people could be found in a different part of the forum laughing at Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 because it looked so similar to Modern Warfare 2.

[MichaelxXxTrixie 433]

My reaction to all these comments is BF4 added just about as much features to its game as Ghosts did, I might even say Ghosts has added more but I haven't followed the two much lately. I'm waiting for the day BF gets realized as the "Exact Same Game." What more is there to add without making the game an entirely new game?

[Scootalove 10,689]

I guess people don't understand sequels. Sequels are basically the same game with the same name but as a sequel, usually it has the same engine. But hating on Battlefield 4, people need to just stop.

[Shiki 5,857]

Hating on anything is pointless, unless that thing affects your life against your choice.

 

If one does not like a game and disagrees with the contents of it, they should stop surrounding themselves with content of said game.

 

It's as if you were to keep going back to McDonald's for a Big Mac even though you say it tastes horrible each time.

Edited August 16, 2013 by Akemi Homura

[Cerbyrus 63]

But hating on Battlefield 4, people need to just stop.

People need to stop hating on any game because it has absolutely no use whatsoever and it doesn't really help developers improve their game. No, it's not even the fact people think Ghosts is the same game that I get so frustated about, it's the people that say that someone is a retard (no offense to retards) for buying the game. They also think that because they personally don't like it it's a complete piece of shit. Isn't it the same bronies have to put of with? It's annoying when people hate you because your tastes are different. It's what Battlefield players are doing a lot, and them I mean a lot, even more then the CoD players. I mean, I'm not a CoD player myself, simply because I don't enjoy the series. That doesn't means it's a bad series, I just don't personally like it. People need to get over the fact the game is not for them and other people do enjoy the game, and that, because they have fun, they want to play it.

[Spartan 433]

CoD hasn't brought any thing NEW and game changing in a LONG time. it is the same thing over and over again, so yes.. nothing new.

 

as for Battlefield 4, it does seem the same as BF3, but im willing to give it a chance, since i like big warfare games

[akalink 163]

I guess people don't understand sequels. Sequels are basically the same game with the same name but as a sequel, usually it has the same engine. But hating on Battlefield 4, people need to just stop.

 

Your argument is invalid.

 

A lot of people are tired of the those games. They in very unproductive ways don't want to see those games popular anymore. They want to see more original takes on the shooter take center stage in the gaming market. I've played CoD 2, MWF 1 2 and 3, and Black Ops. I don't want to buy those games anymore. I'm done. I had my fill of shooting people. How do people still find those games that are almost exactly the same even now entertaining. I think I think they just have bad taste, but that's my opinion.

[Scootalove 10,689]

 

Your argument is invalid.

 

A lot of people are tired of the those games. They in very unproductive ways don't want to see those games popular anymore. They want to see more original takes on the shooter take center stage in the gaming market. I've played CoD 2, MWF 1 2 and 3, and Black Ops. I don't want to buy those games anymore. I'm done. I had my fill of shooting people. How do people still find those games that are almost exactly the same even now entertaining. I think I think they just have bad taste, but that's my opinion.

It's not an argument, it's just my opinion. I can see how people are tired of first player shooters but, you do know that there are other games that you can buy. Grand Theft Auto, you could buy that but basically any game that you want. Just saying.

[Cerbyrus 63]

I can see how people are tired of first player shooters but, you do know that there are other games that you can buy. Grand Theft Auto, you could buy that but basically any game that you want. Just saying.

THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!111!!*one* It's just this. THAT'S what has been annoying me sooo much. People can't just realize that there are other games you can play and you don't need to buy the 'stupid old same game.' I mean, SO WHAT if people enjoy that 'stupid old same game.' It's what THEY enjoy, so why not let them just play it whilst you play, BF4, or Halo, or GTA, or Mass Effect, or Minecraft, or Quake, or watch MLP:FiM.

 

It's been annoying me for months now. Also, I don't mean to insult any of you of course, you guys are awesome, but I just really need to tell someone about my frustation for this :/

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,040]

In my opinion, the hatred on Ghosts after the multiplayer reveal is perfectly justified. It is clear that the developers and Activision especially are perfectly comfortable with rehashing the same thing over and over and over again with hardly any changes to the formula. You can tout 'interactive maps' and whatnot, but given how powerful the next gen systems are, they should be doing a lot more than that.

 

Don't get me wrong, COD is still fun, but it is a little insulting that they seriously charge $60 for each game every year when they are essentially the same thing each time with a bit of different paint. That would be fine as well, if the basis of the entire thing wasn't immensely outdated. Battlefield 3 is far superior on every technological level to any COD game and that is why if Battlefield 4 is anything like that, that would not bother me as much, especially since we have not had a new Battlefield game in two years. It also seems that Dice is actually wanting to take advantage of the next gen hardware unlike Infinity Ward.

 

Just my opinion.

[akalink 163]

A lot of people are poking fun at Ghosts for bragging about how they are programming AI and rendering different things better, then touting it as next gen. Stuff that has existed in games before the inception of the CoD franchise. And by George is it justified. 

 

[long gone 8,929]

A lot of people are poking fun at Ghosts for bragging about how they are programming AI and rendering different things better, then touting it as next gen. Stuff that has existed in games before the inception of the CoD franchise. And by George is it justified. 

 

Don't forget that CoD: Ghosts was supposed to have an all-new engine built around the next generation and yet it still has legacy code from the Quake III engine. Not even Source, a last-generation, due-to-be-replaced engine, has legacy Quake code anymore.

[James 302]

All the Call of Duty hate is rather funny to me because most people hate it for no real reason, just because it's popular to hate CoD. There are, however, a thousand good reasons to hate CoD, I hate Call of Duty, and I'm saying that as someone who has put a lot of time into it. Call of Duty is a bad multiplayer game, the last good one was WaW.

 

Considering that Call of Duty's developers are completely incompetent, my prediction is that Ghosts will also be a bad multiplayer game. Seriously, Activision just need to give it a rest.

[Cerbyrus 63]

Don't forget that CoD: Ghosts was supposed to have an all-new engine built around the next generation and yet it still has legacy code from the Quake III engine. Not even Source, a last-generation, due-to-be-replaced engine, has legacy Quake code anymore.

Now, I get all that, and I do agree on a lot of games. My problem isn't even that some of these things are facts about the game how it isn't improving much at all. It's just the fact that people are making a problem out of others enjoying it. I mean, if Ghosts sucks, why won't you just avoid it? As long as the people who love Ghosts play Ghosts and people who play Battlefield play Battlefield, there is nothing wrong. SADLY, people, from both BF and CoD's community always feel the need to try and bash the game all the way down the core of the earth.

 

If you don't enjoy a game that's fine, if you think the game is a complete piece of shit, that's fine, but don't annoy other people who DO enjoy the game with it. It's not helping. And quite frankly, it's one of the things that I also find really annoying about some bronies and anti-bronies. It's this never-ending cycle of hate, and I want it to stop.

[long gone 8,929]

I'm not planning on buying Ghosts, but it's kind of hard to avoid it when every major gaming news source constantly reminds me the game exists.

[Cerbyrus 63]

I'm not planning on buying Ghosts, but it's kind of hard to avoid it when every major gaming news source constantly reminds me the game exists.

True, but I'm not interest in buying GTA: V either (don't ask me why, I'm just not one for those kind of games), but I can easily avoid that, even though every major gaming news site talks about it all the time. And honestly, I'm not seeing THAT much CoD: Ghosts content fly by. Obviously I see it from time to time, but I see BF4 a lot whole more, whether from youtubers I'm subscribed too, or just those bigger gaming-news channels.

Edited August 16, 2013 by Relotus

[James 302]

Now, I get all that, and I do agree on a lot of games. My problem isn't even that some of these things are facts about the game how it isn't improving much at all. It's just the fact that people are making a problem out of others enjoying it. I mean, if Ghosts sucks, why won't you just avoid it? As long as the people who love Ghosts play Ghosts and people who play Battlefield play Battlefield, there is nothing wrong. SADLY, people, from both BF and CoD's community always feel the need to try and bash the game all the way down the core of the earth.

 

If you don't enjoy a game that's fine, if you think the game is a complete piece of shit, that's fine, but don't annoy other people who DO enjoy the game with it. It's not helping. And quite frankly, it's one of the things that I also find really annoying about some bronies and anti-bronies. It's this never-ending cycle of hate, and I want it to stop.

 

I agree, but I think all the hate could be used for good here. The hate shouldn't be directed at fans of the game, it should be directed at Activision for screwing us over and ripping us off, and at Treyarch and Infinity Ward for their countless incompetent design choices. The gaming community should demand more from their games, we're buying a product here, and in the case of CoD the product just isn't up to standards. If everyone knew just a little about good game design and was a little bit critical CoD would either be a better game, or it would be dead and buried right now.

[Cerbyrus 63]

I agree, but I think all the hate could be used for good here. The hate shouldn't be directed at fans of the game, it should be directed at Activision for screwing us over and ripping us off, and at Treyarch and Infinity Ward for their countless incompetent design choices. The gaming community should demand more from their games, we're buying a product here, and in the case of CoD the product just isn't up to standards. If everyone knew just a little about good game design and was a little bit critical CoD would either be a better game, or it would be dead and buried right now.

True, but still, most of the time hate doesn't solve anything. Ghosts will sell enough either way, and the Xbone DRM removal was pretty much an exception, simply because they were losing the battle with Sony. Even if all the hate would be directed towards IW and Activision, it wouldn't help. They make money on the game, and as long as they do make money, the game won't change. Also, there will still be a bunch of fanboys defending Activision no matter what.

[Alex Night 870]

So, I've been watching the CoD: Ghosts Multiplayer gameplay by JackFrags.

The hate on the video is just pathetic. Everyone is complaining about Ghosts being the same old game. And honestly, I don't see why. Even though, in my opinion, BF4 looks much better from what I've seen, Ghosts looks like it will be improved a lot. Sure, if you don't like the game, go ahead and leave a dislike. Play what you want to play. That's completely fine. But don't go an hate on a game you've never played. For example, on a BF4 gameplay video, also by JackFrags, I saw this comment: BATTLEFIELD 3.5

 

Just that. Nothing else. Just that.

 

And what kind of use does that stupid fucking comment have? Because it sure doesn't look like usefull feedback. People need to learn that hating games has no use, and that they should let people play whatever they want. I saw people saying it's sad that people will buy Ghosts, even though it's 'exactly the same'. No, that's not sad. It's sad that they make a problem of what people want to play. Don't like it, don't buy it. It's as simple as that.

 

Sorry for this little rant, but I really needed to get this out of my head, so, whatever. Please tell me what you think about the hate.

 

Oh yeah, here's the video link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VwJtmya5NY

 

The easy explanation for that is Fanboyism.  It is quite an amazing thing that has stemmed up ever since the days of Nintendo vs Sega.  Fanboys are capable of saying and doing some of the most stupid things that fall completely out of logic.  The fanboyism of Call of Duty and Battlefield is a another sterling example.  Frankly, it is fanboyism that is going to kill the video game industry one day because of what fanboys are willing to say and do.

[Chacobos 160]

Apples to oranges, guys, apples to oranges. BF4 isn't bringing much change by the looks of it and neither is Ghosts BUT who am I to judge a game I haven't even gotten my hands on? 

 

In all honesty I want CoD to just die off so I can stop hearing people complain endlessly because they feel a game they don't need to buy is affecting them. I can also guess BF will be heading down a similar path a few years from now if another installment does the same thing from BF3 to BF4

[Limey 524]

I think people get so pissed off with Call of Duty because it's so frustrating how popular and successful it is. There are some game devs that put loads of time, effort, innovation and pure genius into their games, but no matter how hard they try, they'll never top the polished turd that is the Call of Duty series.

 

Also, a lot of people (including myself) believe game series like Call of Duty (Not just Call of Duty, but they are the main series that comes to mind) are destroying innovation in the video games industry. I mean, where is the motivation for publishers to invest in an original game when they can make a quick and easy dollar with another cookie cutter sequel?

 

I don't hate CoD though. I actually think it's great. It keeps all the loud mouthed 12 year olds away from all the good games.

[myzz7 73]

I am more frustrated that the buyer's market for Call of Duty will still tell Activision to keep churning them out, year after year, because there's lucrative profit in it. It's a drain on the medium because other developers who want to play it safe in the name of not sinking into financial ruin will chase the market set by the leader in sales -- Call of Duty. Of course this isn't spread across the board, RPGs developers will still make RPGs, but it harms unique FPS experiences like Killzone.

 

Killzone was harshly criticized for not copy pasting Call of Duty's floaty controls and online layout of modes when it released. But Killzone, like other different FPS games, had its own strongpoints. My personal favorite of Killzone is the brutal melee system that I would never see in a Call of Duty game.

[Alex Night 870]

I am more frustrated that the buyer's market for Call of Duty will still tell Activision to keep churning them out, year after year, because there's lucrative profit in it. It's a drain on the medium because other developers who want to play it safe in the name of not sinking into financial ruin will chase the market set by the leader in sales -- Call of Duty. Of course this isn't spread across the board, RPGs developers will still make RPGs, but it harms unique FPS experiences like Killzone.

 

Killzone was harshly criticized for not copy pasting Call of Duty's floaty controls and online layout of modes when it released. But Killzone, like other different FPS games, had its own strongpoints. My personal favorite of Killzone is the brutal melee system that I would never see in a Call of Duty game.

 

Dude, I still watch in awe when I use the Brutal Melee system on Killzone 3 and the cinematic feel of the online multiplayer easily tops games like Call of Duty for me.  The victory scenes at the end of the matches just make me want to win that much harder because you will see your character and squad either brutalized or executed.  I truly hope that same cinematic feel with a bit more expansions on said cinematic feel is coming for Killzone Shadow Fall.  

[Nah 3,182]

Meh, what I find funny is when CoD fanboys go onto a Battlefield video and vent about how horrible Battlefield is when they've never played it, and then the Battlefield fanboys go and do the same thing to them.

 

I think the hate is mainly coming from the average gamer who is getting sick and tired of another game where the main emphasis is on multiplayer, not story, and the multiplayer gets plagued with little bratty kids, Teenagers with raging hormones, and they release another map pack, or another DLC, I think people are wanting to see something new and fresh, while Ghosts may have changed quite a bit of things, along with BF4, you start to wonder why the gaming industry is starting to see sales flop, because the formula of making an FPS game with the multiplayer aspect stressed more than anything else is evident.