Mywas 687 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 You heard the title. Which moral that was taught in the show do you think was the worst? I think its a tie between Keep Calm and Flutter On(Let us go and befriend Bashar al asad, maybe he will turn good, hurr durr) and The Mare Do well(Hey our friend is becoming arrogant, let us ruin her life, that will teach her.) 4 Credits to Mint Drop for an awesome Sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayalicious 435 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 Let us go and befriend Bashar al asad, maybe he will turn good, hurr durr Yeah... i wouldn't be sure about that c'ause i can still here the explosions all the way to here(literally) (no i'm not joking, we share borders...) 1 "Adrenalin begins when gravity ends" ~Studio Liverpool Siggy by le awesome: NightOwl Smarticle of my class, problem with studies? PM me would be happy to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr F 1,522 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 The mare do well... It was just no.. They took it a bit too far... Though they showed the CMC how to get cutie marks in trolling (When I say it, its bad..) (Really cool signature) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Shadow 8,200 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 My personal least favorite was MMMystery on the Friendship Express'. It...worked in its own right, but it gave me a feeling the writers were running out of ideas for the morals when I heard it. Four bits that the moral from Feeling Pinkie Keen is going to be a popular choice in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight 7,291 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 (edited) These two are the worst morals to me: Feeling Pinkie Keen - "I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means you have to choose to believe in them. And sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way." One Bad Apple - The whole moral about coming to an adult when being bullied...why is this an awful moral? Because some parents simply don't care and some people, while watching this episode, might get annoyed when people assume that you just have to tell an adult in order to make bullying go away...sometimes that doesn't work and sometimes it even makes things worse. Edited September 25, 2013 by WheatleyCore 3 matching setups with my bff pathfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonClaw 8,174 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 Part of the reason I detest "Mysterious Mare-Do-Well" so much and may never remove it from my worst episode list is the supposed "moral", and believe me when I use the strongest quotation marks I could find here. Whatever lesson they were trying to covey ended up being about as clear as mud and, near as I can tell anyway, the final product ended up as "Being humble is great, but should someone ever start to brag about their accomplishments then the best course of action is to publicly humiliate them until they knock it off. That'll teach them a lesson!" 2 MLPForums "Self-Proclaimed" Kamen Rider NutNow, count up your sins!I do Traditional commissions, by the way! See them HERE! Banner was done by the wonderful Kyoshi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunny Fox 5,961 September 25, 2013 Share September 25, 2013 (edited) One Bad Apple - The whole moral about coming to an adult when being bullied...why is this an awful moral? Because some parents simply don't care and some people, while watching this episode, might get annoyed when people assume that you just have to tell an adult in order to make bullying go away...sometimes that doesn't work and sometimes it even makes things worse. While this is sometimes true, I think it's more often than not the best course to take. Both bullies and molesters thrive on the "this is our secret" groove. Making a responsible adult aware of what's going on usually helps the situation. And they were going to speak to Applejack, who is one of the more responsible members of the Mane 6, so all in all, I don't think the moral is that bad. Edited September 25, 2013 by Full Spectrum 5 Happy minion of The Fabulous One! Signature by Midnightive Check out my blog! https://mlpforums.com/blog/1083-sunny-side-den/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megas 28,137 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 (edited) The Mysterious Mare Do Well has the weakest moral in the show. It really kills the episode when Twilight and her friends have to spoon-feed the moral to Rainbow Dash about having to be humble and not to brag when throughout the episode they were doing the exact same thing they were humiliating Dash for. Hypocrisy,douchebaggery and backstabbing at it's finest Edited September 26, 2013 by Phoenix Trite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a Pegasus Pony 139 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 The Mysterious Mare Do had to be the worst in my opinion. If you have something to say to a friend then speak your mind as for that friend might understand. No need for all that extra stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornBreadGang 514 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 The Return of Harmony. "Hey, kids! Remember that if an evil tyrant rises after millennia of dormancy, that you can stop it with love and magical rocks!" I know the main moral is far from that, but that's just something I pulled. And I like that episode. It's one of my favorites. Thanks to Rainbow Skywalker for the signature! Light Streak and reborn Light Streak OC's: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/light-streak-r4361 http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/light-streak-reborn-r4501 Dark Spot and Glowing Infinity OC's: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/dark-spot-r5206 http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/glowing-infinity-r5211 Masquerade OC: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/masquerade-r5535 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Kvlt Dawn 2,368 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 Feeling Pinkie Keen - "I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means you have to choose to believe in them. And sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way." I totally agree, you can't just have blind faith, you have to look for the answers. It may not always be easy, and it may not always be quick but the truth is out there waiting to be found. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winona the Dog 1,984 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 (edited) I have to say Putting Your Hoof down had the worst moral. I don't think you can actually go up and scold your friends and then blame someone who taught you something as a scapegoat. That's a dick move. Edited September 26, 2013 by Ember The Dragoness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessper 735 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 I'd say Mare Do Well (but that might be my RD bias talking). If your friend becomes too proud of what they do (even if they do really well) - destroy them, humiliate them - until there is no pride left and they stop doing what they were proud of and preferably do it in such a way that they won't find out it's you, so you can mock them about it later. There are many quite bad things in the show in this respect, but this one really stuck with me, because it was told in such a sneaky way and presented as the good thing to do - and before all, it doesn't depend on the MLP universe as most of the other "hug everyone" morals. You know, in Equestia you can talk and befriend the villains, because they won't pull out AK-47 out and shoot you in the face. But in the Mare-do-well story that wasn't the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen 1,354 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 (edited) Feeling Pinkie Keen: For one, the episode even makes Twilight go terribly out of character when she decides to just believe something that makes no sense. To just believe in something if you can't explain it is exactly the kind of thing you don't want to teach kids. This kind of attitude is what prevents progress being made. It's fine to believe in something, but don't believe in it if you don't have a logical reason to and aren't able to explain it with at least some evidence. You heard the title. Which moral that was taught in the show do you think was the worst?I think its a tie between Keep Calm and Flutter On(Let us go and befriend Bashar al asad, maybe he will turn good, hurr durr) and The Mare Do well(Hey our friend is becoming arrogant, let us ruin her life, that will teach her.) I can agree with Mare Do Well, but Keep Calm and Flutter On presents an excellent moral. Even if someone committed horrendous crimes in his life, he is still a human being just like any of us, and showing them a little kindness and willingness to understand them can go a long way. Often, people who commit crimes do so because that's all they've ever known in their life, and know nothing of gentleness and what it can achieve. This episode is great because it teaches kids to love and accept one another for all the good or bad they've committed, and this can help foster great relationships. Edited September 26, 2013 by Freedan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 These two are the worst morals to me: Feeling Pinkie Keen - "I am happy to report that I now realize there are wonderful things in this world you just can't explain, but that doesn't necessarily make them any less true. It just means you have to choose to believe in them. And sometimes it takes a friend to show you the way." One Bad Apple - The whole moral about coming to an adult when being bullied...why is this an awful moral? Because some parents simply don't care and some people, while watching this episode, might get annoyed when people assume that you just have to tell an adult in order to make bullying go away...sometimes that doesn't work and sometimes it even makes things worse. I should probably get up and walk away, but seriously isn't it just an atheist thing that people hate feeling pinkie keen. As for one bad apple, if it can be true as alot people concede, how can it be "the worst moral." Worst moral? Canterlot wedding, If someone you love has a emotional parasite attached to them never stop trusting them kids ^^. And simpsons did it first. I'd say Mare Do Well (but that might be my RD bias talking). If your friend becomes too proud of what they do (even if they do really well) - destroy them, humiliate them - until there is no pride left and they stop doing what they were proud of and preferably do it in such a way that they won't find out it's you, so you can mock them about it later. Now again I'm a terrible person, and your totally right that is a horrible moral, But I love it LOL. I think it's awesome that it's there so people can't say "well that won't fly because it's a kids show." well no look at mare do well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen 1,354 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 (edited) but seriously isn't it just an atheist thing that people hate feeling pinkie keen. As I see it, not really. Believing in something without question is not inducive to proper learning and critical thinking. This goes beyond the scope of religion. Scientific and academic progress in any area of interest would be slowed down significantly if people just blindly believed in anything. For instance, I could say that the sunshine is caused by a trillion flashlights in a blue cieling and that we all live in an enclosed space. It makes no sense but you would never know it's not true if you don't question that assertion. That's how people discovered that's indeed not the case, that the world is round instead of flat and that the earth goes around the sun rather than the other way around and that neither are placed at the center of the universe as people originally believed. People questioned these original assertions and proved them false over time. Edited September 26, 2013 by Freedan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 (edited) As I see it, not really. Believing in something without question is not inducive to proper learning and critical thinking. This goes beyond the scope of religion. Scientific and academic progress in any area of interest would be slowed down significantly if people just blindly believed in anything. For instance, I could say that the sunshine is caused by a trillion flashlights in a blue cieling and that we all live in an enclosed space. It makes no sense but you would never know it's not true if you don't question that assertion. That's how people discovered that's indeed not the case, that the world is round instead of flat and that the earth goes around the sun rather than the other way around and that neither are placed at the center of the universe as people originally believed. People questioned these original assertions and proved them false over time. I think there can stand to be people who ask these questions, for history (my favorite subject) has shown that those people exist wether we want them to or not. I think if everyone hailed from the "Show me state." the world would be alot grimmer. Imagine if every 5 year old took the time to figure out santa, the easter bunny, etc, etc. (or even 10 year old) Yes grown ups can be held to a higher responsibility of learning, but in our youth a little blind faith, a little can be an enchanting thing. Removing that removes us of what it is to be young. Kinda why they slapped the role of the doubter on to Twilight. If any of the main six likely tossed away her youth prematurely I'd say she has. And of the main six if anyone has kept their youth the best it's pinkie. Edited September 26, 2013 by FNGRpony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planty 1,053 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 @@FNGRpony, I agree, people are missing a canterlot wedding out, but the moral in that was "trust your gut over everything else because your always right" in a sense (maybe thats taking it to ex-streams but I think it could easily be seen as that). Now your are NEVER always right. I can accept for some situations, going with your gut can be good but a lot of what Twilight was feeling in that episode (or even in a slightly different situation) could of been just because of change and every situation is different and should be looked at independently! Have ANY questions about Christianity? INBOX ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mand'alor Dash 2,225 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 People seem to be misinterpreting the moral of Feeling Pinkie Keen. It isn't about having blind faith without proof. The whole point is that Twilight could plainly see that Pinkie Pie had spider-sense, she just couldn't explain why. The moral is that even if you don't know why something exists, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You'll notice that at the end of the episode, Twilight resigned the fact that she just "can't explain it", as she had been trying to do throughout the meat of episode. This doesn't mean "Pinkie Pie is God because durr hurr", it just means that regardless of what causes Pinkie sense, it still provably exists. If you watch MythBusters, you'll recall there was an episode dealing with the myth that igniting thermite on top of ice would lead to an uncharacteristic explosion. Turns out it's 100% true, but neither Jamie nor Adam had any idea why, they just know that it does. The same principle applies here. Twilight has no idea why Pinkie has precognition, she just knows that she does. Now, my picks for worst moral are Mysterious Mare-Do-Well and One Bad Apple. MMDW has been picked clean several times over by now. We all know why that moral sucked, so there's little point in reiterating it. As for One Bad Apple, what pissed me off about that "moral" was the fact that it tried to paint the CMC as "bullies" for teaching Babs a lesson, which is just flat-out retarded. Yes, you should always go to an adult, if you can. But there are times when that just isn't an option. In such a case, yeah, you SHOULD stand up to a bully. It makes no sense that the CMC had to (literally) eat shit for standing up to Babs, and yet Babs herself got off with a simple "I'm sorry." That's just dumb. 1 Amoral cynic with a bitchin' vocabulary. Check out A Century of Song if you like music from before this millennium. Sig by ~Cider Barrel~ (design), Skaren (left vector), and ~Rhodarein (right vector). Avatar by ~Scootaloo (design) and Skaren (vector). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 @@FNGRpony, I agree, people are missing a canterlot wedding out, but the moral in that was "trust your gut over everything else because your always right" in a sense (maybe thats taking it to ex-streams but I think it could easily be seen as that). Now your are NEVER always right. I can accept for some situations, going with your gut can be good but a lot of what Twilight was feeling in that episode (or even in a slightly different situation) could of been just because of change and every situation is different and should be looked at independently! I'm a gambler LOL, sometimes you guess right. that episode could have just as easily been twilight ruining her brothers wedding, minus the changelings, maybe candice just turned into a bitch later on in life lol. My God could you imagine? A real bitchy alicorn princess the writers just dropped in the show LOL. She could be a Mr burns like character (See the simpsons). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen 1,354 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 (edited) I think there can stand to be people who ask these questions, for history (my favorite subject) has shown that those people exist wether we want them to or not. I think if everyone hailed from the "Show me state." the world would be alot grimmer. Imagine if every 5 year old took the time to figure out santa, the easter bunny, etc, etc. (or even 10 year old) Yes grown ups can be held to a higher responsibility of learning, but in our youth a little blind faith, a little can be an enchanting thing. Removing that removes us of what it is to be young. Kinda why they slapped the role of the doubter on to Twilight. If any of the main six likely tossed away her youth prematurely I'd say she has. And of the main six if anyone has kept their youth the best it's pinkie. Yes and no. Believing in something is a good thing, but rather than believing in it without question, it should serve to encourage you to prove it precisely because you believe in it. Many people throughout history went out of their way to prove something because they believed it, created hypotheses upon which to conduct their research. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's almost exactly how the theory of relativity came to be. Having faith is good, but having blind faith is not. You can have faith as a child, yes, but blind faith is not something that should be encouraged to children, and I think it's unfitting for a show like MLP because when it comes right down to it, the whole series centers around growing up, learning from your mistakes and making amends. Growing up becomes next to impossible without questioning your own beliefs, not just simply the beliefs of others. Edited September 26, 2013 by Freedan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planty 1,053 September 26, 2013 Share September 26, 2013 @@FNGRpony, Haha, while that sounds quite funny I'm not sure it would really fit hehe! It could ruin a lot of things, maybe even Twilight would have to lead a coup de grace to take back the Crystal empire from her hehe! Have ANY questions about Christianity? INBOX ME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stainesbrony 219 September 28, 2013 Share September 28, 2013 'The best night ever' has the best moral EVER. It basically says that if you are at an extravagant event, and [REDACTED] happens, you should go to the nearby donut place with your friends. That is the only moral that does not involve problems with little kids. STOP READING THIS SIGNATURE! THIS IS AN ONLINE FORUM, NOT A LIBRARY! My main OC is Rick. Link to my main OC: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/rick-r3145My Unicorn OC is Mind's Eye. Link: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/minds-eye-r3273I also have an alicorn pegacorn OC, Fred. Link: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/fred-r3298 Also, the arbitrary Earth Pony OC, Marshall. Link: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/marshall-r3314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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