ooc Equestia Divided Reboot

[AnonBrony 1,468]

@@Descant,

 

Seems good enough for me. Though, even though Yoorik never said how they flooded Ponyville, I think they broke the dam. I don't think they used rain clouds but whatever, it isn't a big deal. Also, I like the fact that North doesn't that Moon and Star were the ones who tricked Rainbow into ordering the flood. I don't think he's supposed to know anyway lol, but that's gonna make it even better when he finds out the truth about the flooding. 

[The-Master 1,176]

@@Descant,

 

Seems good enough for me. Though, even though Yoorik never said how they flooded Ponyville, I think they broke the dam. I don't think they used rain clouds but whatever, it isn't a big deal. Also, I like the fact that North doesn't that Moon and Star were the ones who tricked Rainbow into ordering the flood. I don't think he's supposed to know anyway lol, but that's gonna make it even better when he finds out the truth about the flooding. 

 

Actually I think he did specify. I believe it was the combined efforts of the three floating cloud cities, since they aren't anchored to the ground in anyway and are effectively floating war machines. Either way I think it managed to successfully flush out the cult from Ponyville.

[Undyne 1,483]

Uh... OK. I've got the desire to join this, (Thanks, @Descant...) but it's been a good while since I've RPed on this site. Not only that, but I should really add some detail to some of my OCs' sheets, figuring there would be a problem of the small quantity I put in there. That, and I gotta figure out who I should use. 

[Descant 1,897]

@@Descant,

 

Seems good enough for me. Though, even though Yoorik never said how they flooded Ponyville, I think they broke the dam. I don't think they used rain clouds but whatever, it isn't a big deal. Also, I like the fact that North doesn't that Moon and Star were the ones who tricked Rainbow into ordering the flood. I don't think he's supposed to know anyway lol, but that's gonna make it even better when he finds out the truth about the flooding. 

That's true, I don't really remember him specifying. I assume that even if they did break a dam, there probably would have been clouds used to overflow the river even further. Considering weather manipulation is kind of a speciality of the pegasi, it seems odd that Stormwing, which is of course mostly pegasi, would not utilise it in this kind of manuver. 

 

Even so, there's got to be some amount of headcanon (as far as this RP goes) as to what actually happened. I went with powerful rainclouds because that's what I used last time, and it wasn't questioned. Last time in my character applications for Encore and Evergreen, I said that a stray lightning bolt from the Stormwing Operation over Ponyville struck her garden and made it catch fire. And lightning doesn't just spawn out of the blue, does it? 

 

I'd be happy to adjust the story if need be. That'd be an easy change. And I sorta want to imply that Cascade has ties to the Cult of Laughter. Maybe I'll adjust the story so North gets stabbed instead of Cascade so Cascade can go on to become a Harl-Equine or a Jester of Baltimare farther down the road.

 

Actually I think he did specify. I believe it was the combined efforts of the three floating cloud cities, since they aren't anchored to the ground in anyway and are effectively floating war machines. Either way I think it managed to successfully flush out the cult from Ponyville.

Again, that's part of the reason I'm considering tweaking the stories. It'd be an easy change, to make it involve the repositioning of the cities and Cascade's involvement with Ponyville's cult movement. Maybe that can be why she's scavenging.

 

Uh... OK. I've got the desire to join this, (Thanks, @Descant...) but it's been a good while since I've RPed on this site. Not only that, but I should really add some detail to some of my OCs' sheets, figuring there would be a problem of the small quantity I put in there. That, and I gotta figure out who I should use. 

You're welcome.

[EcstaticWind 572]

Equestria Divided bios are updated. Please let me know if I've missed anything or not enough detail in a certain part.

[Anneal 2,197]

Well, since I'm a bit better now, I might as well start applying for one of my OCs; I'm going to work on the second one this day.

 

http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/astrolabe%ce%b1%cf%83%cf%84%cf%81%ce%bf%ce%bb%ce%ac%ce%b2%ce%bf%cf%82-r4620

 

She'll possibly start giving philosophical quotes on the dark side of ponykind. She reminded me a bit of the Lutece twins when I made this.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Uh... OK. I've got the desire to join this, (Thanks, @Descant...) but it's been a good while since I've RPed on this site. Not only that, but I should really add some detail to some of my OCs' sheets, figuring there would be a problem of the small quantity I put in there. That, and I gotta figure out who I should use. 

Cool, but all you need is a separate or modified backstory for Equestria divided that also says all the tings to happened to the OC after the Sisters disappeared. Like what faction they joined and what was their reaction to the sisters disappearing and stuff. As long as you make a good detailed backstory you should be good to go. And you allowed up to two characters. 

[Descant 1,897]

@@AnonBrony, @@EquestrianScholar, 

 

So, I revised Cascade's story a little bit. It wasn't much, just a subtle something to imply activity with the Cult of Laughter. Which she is now associated with. Something about disappearing bodies and laughter with friends in Ponyville...

 

At the start of the roleplay, she'll probably be one of the saner members of the cult, although I'm not sure how long that will last. That's mostly because she hasn't had much contact with them other than with the drowned Ponyville faction, and with the ones that come to claim her finds from the bottom of Lake Ponyville. 

 

And North Arrow's has been edited to reflect @The-Master's information regarding the Flooding of Ponyville.

Edited October 10, 2013 by Descant

[Anneal 2,197]

My opinion: I would think that a good majority of the populace in every house would actually condemn the warfare going on between the houses and remain neutral. War is physically, mentally, politically, and economically damaging, and getting into one is a really sticky situation. 

 

It would take a good deal of reconstruction to return to their not so peaceful state, if a house wins, which I think will not. The war can go on for several years in a deadlock with no belligerent winner in sight, and even if it does end, there might be no winner because every place in Equestria is weakened and in debt.

 

In reality, I find war laughable. History is repeating itself and humanity is inflicting self-damage. I would have expected several countries to learn after preceding empires and several countries collapsed because of crappy war. 

 

I would like the world to at least agree on something for once rather than kill hundreds of thousands of people. 

[Undyne 1,483]

Cool, but all you need is a separate or modified backstory for Equestria divided that also says all the tings to happened to the OC after the Sisters disappeared. Like what faction they joined and what was their reaction to the sisters disappearing and stuff. As long as you make a good detailed backstory you should be good to go. And you allowed up to two characters. 

 

Oh, cool! 

 

I could do two characters, but I'm not exactly sure on how my school schedule would stand as of now. So, one character would work just perfectly for me.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

@@AnonBrony, @@EquestrianScholar, 

 

So, I revised Cascade's story a little bit. It wasn't much, just a subtle something to imply activity with the Cult of Laughter. Which she is now associated with. Something about disappearing bodies and laughter with friends in Ponyville...

 

At the start of the roleplay, she'll probably be one of the saner members of the cult, although I'm not sure how long that will last. That's mostly because she hasn't had much contact with them other than with the drowned Ponyville faction, and with the ones that come to claim her finds from the bottom of Lake Ponyville. 

 

And North Arrow's has been edited to reflect @The-Master's information regarding the Flooding of Ponyville.

As I said with North, I didn't see many problems. I would approve them both.

 

 

My opinion: I would think that a good majority of the populace in every house would actually condemn the warfare going on between the houses and remain neutral. War is physically, mentally, politically, and economically damaging, and getting into one is a really sticky situation. 

 

It would take a good deal of reconstruction to return to their not so peaceful state, if a house wins, which I think will not. The war can go on for several years in a deadlock with no belligerent winner in sight, and even if it does end, there might be no winner because every place in Equestria is weakened and in debt.

 

In reality, I find war laughable. History is repeating itself and humanity is inflicting self-damage. I would have expected several countries to learn after preceding empires and several countries collapsed because of crappy war. 

 

I would like the world to at least agree on something for once rather than kill hundreds of thousands of people. 

That is true, but many ponies in every house have a sort of pride and a from nationalism. Thinking every other house is wrong and theirs is right. Most ponies have become so blinded from this pride. Not only that their leader sort of force the war on them, especially the soldiers. If you disobey or refuse to fight in the houses you either A: A traitor, B: Worthless and weak, C: A Heretic, or D: All of the above.

[Descant 1,897]

As I said with North, I didn't see many problems. I would approve them both.

 

Okey dokey. I changed it mostly so that she would have an alliegence with a faction, however loose. It wasn't that much of a change, but Scholar mentioned... Well, thankee kindly, sir. 

 

That is true, but many ponies in every house have a sort of pride and a from nationalism. Thinking every other house is wrong and theirs is right. Most ponies have become so blinded from this pride. Not only that their leader sort of force the war on them, especially the soldiers. If you disobey or refuse to fight in the houses you either A: A traitor, B: Worthless and weak, C: A Heretic, or D: All of the above.

 

Seconded. They admit that the war is awful, but when they die, they die for their race, for the greater good of their country they have given their allegiance to. Sometimes there are things worth dying for, and in 9 cases out of 10, each House has done a good job of convincing their subjects that they're worth dying for.

[Anneal 2,197]

That is true, but many ponies in every house have a sort of pride and a from nationalism. Thinking every other house is wrong and theirs is right. Most ponies have become so blinded from this pride. Not only that their leader sort of force the war on them, especially the soldiers. If you disobey or refuse to fight in the houses you either A: A traitor, B: Worthless and weak, C: A Heretic, or D: All of the above.

But it also poses the high risk of rebellion inside the house, ponies fleeing somewhere else, directly betraying the house itself, indirect refusal to work, or all of the above. 

 

Then again, that was what was happening in the world's entire history...

 

 

Seconded. They admit that the war is awful, but when they die, they die for their race, for the greater good of their country they have given their allegiance to. Sometimes there are things worth dying for, and in 9 cases out of 10, each House has done a good job of convincing their subjects that they're worth dying for.

While wasting their population at the same time. Discord must be laughing by now. 

 

There's also the case of desertion, spying, and suicide. Ponies don't want to fight, so they run away from their house. Ponies condemn their own house, so they attempt to overthrow it. Ponies feel like they've lost everything and that the future is misguided, so they kill themselves. It's true even today. 

 

I'm actually an anti-war advocate. I have no problem playing a made up one, though I have extreme hate for it. War is basically murder cloaked by glory. 

[MagicalStarRain 599]

My opinion: I would think that a good majority of the populace in every house would actually condemn the warfare going on between the houses and remain neutral. War is physically, mentally, politically, and economically damaging, and getting into one is a really sticky situation.

 

It would take a good deal of reconstruction to return to their not so peaceful state, if a house wins, which I think will not. The war can go on for several years in a deadlock with no belligerent winner in sight, and even if it does end, there might be no winner because every place in Equestria is weakened and in debt.

 

In reality, I find war laughable. History is repeating itself and humanity is inflicting self-damage. I would have expected several countries to learn after preceding empires and several countries collapsed because of crappy war.

 

I would like the world to at least agree on something for once rather than kill hundreds of thousands of people.

 

If we can stay active long enough to give this roleplay a proper ending, then we can bring about two denouements. Either the Elements reconcile and build the country back up again, or they destroy each other and it's the end of Equestria as we know it.

 

There will always be war as long as the darkness that resides within us all remains. And with so many opposing views in the world and so many personalities that make up the human race and conflict with each other, it's impossible to be rid of it. It's only natural for humans to feel pride for their nation and blindly follow every order without looking at everything from the other sides.

 

And like they always say, a single person dead is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.

Edited October 10, 2013 by MagicalStarRain

[The-Master 1,176]

Code of House Stormwing: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/codex-mortis-r4648

 

This is just a reference guide for those who wanted to know a bit more about the system of honor held by the House. This extends only as far as pegasi however, all the other races being seen as unworthy.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

But it also poses the high risk of rebellion inside the house, ponies fleeing somewhere else, directly betraying the house itself, indirect refusal to work, or all of the above. 

 

Then again, that was what was happening in the world's entire history...

 

 

While wasting their population at the same time. Discord must be laughing by now. 

 

There's also the case of desertion, spying, and suicide. Ponies don't want to fight, so they run away from their house. Ponies condemn their own house, so they attempt to overthrow it. Ponies feel like they've lost everything and that the future is misguided, so they kill themselves. It's true even today. 

 

I'm actually an anti-war advocate. I have no problem playing a made up one, though I have extreme hate for it. War is basically murder cloaked by glory. 

There's one flaw in your argument: you think the ponies of this world realize what is happening is bad. They all have become so blinded from the truth and so prideful in their houses; their minds so clouded with hate and their morals rearranged, that most will still fight for their 'cause' and those that are tired of fighting get discriminated, and some become traitors.

 

But there are many ponies who tire of conflict and know war isn't good, some of them of fled, but then there are those who think they cannot do anything to stop it. Like my OC Eternity. Hes seen the war unfold and Moon and Star grow corrupt. He seen ponies experimented on and tortured. Yet he does nothing. Cuz he knows if he does... you probably know the rest. And then there are those who are plainly ignorant and grew up in the war.

 

And one more thing. It may seem like common sense to us that war is bad and that we shouldn't keep fighting and slaughtering our own kind. But hey look at all those crazy radicals and terrorists in this world, to them war, killing, and death is common sense.

 

Lastly, Discord isn't in this setting, along with anything season 3. 

Edited October 10, 2013 by AnonBrony

[Descant 1,897]

 

 

Lastly, Discord isn't in this setting, along with anything season 3. 

 

*cough* *cough* Lightning Dust *cough* *cough*

Srsly, though, Yorick confirmed that Lightning Dust was commander of Earthborn's Pegasi Forces. 

[Anneal 2,197]

I wonder if the ponies have firearms, unless their military technology regressed to the stage of 14th century weaponry.

 

Yorick does say that they have complex cannons and first generation helicopters. Along with what seems to be similar to machine gun turrets.

[MagicalStarRain 599]

I wonder if the ponies have firearms, unless their military technology regressed to the stage of 14th century weaponry.

Yorick does say that they have complex cannons and first generation helicopters. Along with what seems to be similar to machine gun turrets.

Along with flamethrowers and in Whitegold's case, the arquebus, which is a gun powder-based rifle modeled after a hoof cannon that only unicorns can use. 'Cause let's face it, ponies are particularly lacking in digits and opposing thumbs.

 

And the helicopters... the freaking helicopters... Anon and I still don't agree with those things...

[Anneal 2,197]

Along with flamethrowers and in Whitegold's case, the arquebus, which is a gun powder-based rifle modeled after a hoof cannon that only unicorns can use. 'Cause let's face it, ponies are particularly lacking in digits and opposing thumbs.

 

And the helicopters... the freaking helicopters... Anon and I still don't agree with those things...

Then again, they don't need to have fingers to use firearms.

 

Enlarge the trigger, or change it to a crank or lever. Stocks can help the user aim with ease. (It's not hard to use a sub-machine gun or assault rifle with one hand, though it is slightly less accurate due to higher felt recoil.) And pegasi can use it in flight if the firearm is light enough. Earth ponies can use hoof attachments and stocks to reduce felt recoil and increase accuracy. 

 

And firearms existed for several centuries, and the musket was formed in the 15th century...only it was impractical at first since you need to manually light the chamber. Wheel locks (16th century) didn't improve much. Flintlocks (17th century), which were a bit better, came after. Then it was caplocks (early 19th century), which used a cap to strike the bullet, then lever action, crank action, pump action, and falling block (mid to late 19th century). Then it was bolt action (also later 19th century), then semi-automatic (1890s), and finally, fully automatic light firearms and burst fire. Submachine guns were made in the late parts of World War I, light machine guns were mass produced in the turn of the 20th century, machine pistols were made during and after World War I. The Mondragon Rifle in the late 19th century was the first automatic and semi-automatic rifle, but it wasn't widely used. Semi-automatic battle rifles weren't widely produced until World War II, and assault rifles were made in the late parts of World War II.

 

Okay, that was too much...

Edited October 10, 2013 by Cartophile

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

Equestria Divided bios are updated. Please let me know if I've missed anything or not enough detail in a certain part.

Poppy Seed looks great now, that'll do. Accepted.

 

On a different note, 'fraid I'm going to have to disagree with some elements of the anti-war sentiment in here, but I'll try to explain as best as possible so I don't sound like some kind of psychopath.

 

Anyways, my belief is that sometimes the situation leaves no option but war. For example, World War 2. What would have happened if the Allies hadn't intervened then? Germany would have killed every Jew in Europe, not to mention the countries they would have subjugated in the process. Sometimes diplomacy fails and you have to put your foot down.

 

On the other hand, what if you're under a tyrannical regime? You can't change the system from inside, so how do you go about it? It might be thet violent revolution is the only way to depose the ruthless government. In some ways, this resembles our RP; for example, the Earthborn fight because they believe that Moon & Star are oppressors and deceivers who uphold a broken and dated bureaucracy, which is now based on slavery.

 

Outside of those two cases, though, I think there really is no excuse for war. Wars for territory or resources (America in the Middle East, anyone?) are cold and heartless, as those involved are killing one another for nothing but a piece of land.

Edited October 10, 2013 by Archi the Sandworm

[Tricksters Pride 100]

kinda funny to anti-war sentiment in a RP that has things like the cult of laughter and slavery

[AnonBrony 1,468]

*cough* *cough* Lightning Dust *cough* *cough*

 

Srsly, though, Yorick confirmed that Lightning Dust was commander of Earthborn's Pegasi Forces. 

 Oh yeah, forgot her, (Master don't kill me!) Well most things from Season 3 aren't in this setting, like The Crystal Empire and Sombra and Alicorn Twilight. 

 

@,

 

 

About you comment on guns, I agree with that, but no one has designed a proper firing mechanism for ponies, since the arquebus is relatively new, its like the first musket. Its interesting though, one of my OC's uses a crossbow that can be held with one leg. Normally a crossbow has a simple lever underneath that you use to fire the bolt. The one uses has the part of the lever sticking out the side and is designed so that the mouth can grab on too and by moving you chin up you fire the bolt. The bottom of the crossbow has a strap you can use to attach it you one of you legs for easier holding. Perhaps for the triggering system for the gun is by using the mouth. I mean if the gun is attached to the shoulder it be equivalent of hip-firing for a pony since they have much longer necks then us. If the gun can be attached to the head it might be better and accurate and even maneuverable. then one you use you hooves.

 

Hey Archi, maybe you should be writing this down, cuz of Applebloom heheh. 

[The-Master 1,176]

Oh yeah, forgot her, (Master don't kill me!)

 

 

 

 

Well most things from Season 3 aren't in this setting, like The Crystal Empire and Sombra and Alicorn Twilight. 

 

Yorrick actually had plans to address the Crystal Empire in future, including the first sketches for an army list. Unfortunately we'll never see these plans come into fruition. At this stage all I know about his original plan was that Sombra would be the leading power among the Empire once again.

 

In regards to the hoof cannon, it actually requires the soldier to be in a fixed position in which he has both hooves free to operate it. In order to keep it stable they're forced to use a stand, leveling it out so they can get a proper shot. The issue with this is that it take allot of preparation, more tan a unicorn would expect with an arquebus. Therefore in setup, loading and reloading time your opponent is probably already on you and hacking you to pieces. Earth ponies are at a serious disadvantage when it comes to standardized ranged weaponry.

Edited October 10, 2013 by The-Master

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

In regards to the hoof cannon, it actually requires the soldier to be in a fixed position in which he has both hooves free to operate it. In order to keep it stable they're forced to use a stand, leveling it out so they can get a proper shot. The issue with this is that it take allot of preparation, more tan a unicorn would expect with an arquebus. Therefore in setup, loading and reloading time your opponent is probably already on you and hacking you to pieces. Earth ponies are at a serious disadvantage when it comes to standardized ranged weaponry.

 

Ah, but arquebuses don't match the destructive power of hoof cannons though; for example, they can't punch through a gate, even with massed fire, but the large calibre rounds of hoof cannons allow them to do so. Everything else I agree with.

 

Even with the rewind, Fixit had designs for a repeating musket based on arquebuses and the "Fixit" gun design (basically a crank-operated gatling gun.) However I seem to recall that the Fixit gun had a lot of misfiring issues when Applebloom looked it over so it won't be seeing use until the end of the RP I imagine.

 

As for guns in general, they're bound to have mechanisms more suited to pony anatomy. I still imagine them as using a basic trigger mechanism though, but I remember a crossover I tried (and failed) to write a while ago where they used flank-mounted weaponry (bear in mind this was a Warhammer 40k crossover though.)