Castle Bleck 19,520 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 (edited) Chrysalis was one Magnificent B***h at infiltration and offense... but her defense arguably blew rocks, mainly due to her complacency. P.S.- I don't know which was worse: Luna being pointless here, or Discord not being in EG at all (not even as a mention). Edited December 8, 2013 by Anti-Villain By @Emerald Heart.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkler 31 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 I, personally, loved it. I also loved EQG. But we have to remember the show is aimed at around 3-8 year old girls, so these sorts of things aren't a main priority. Little girls don't generally notice the small details. The show will always be mainly aimed at those little girls that watch it, not us bronies. Little kids would get bored if they spent ages explaining the characters, rather than just getting on with the plot. Sig by me for my use only Self-proclaimed biggest Twilight Sparkle fan. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Luigi 2,065 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 I haven't watched "The End of Time" in a while, but my assumption is that the high council and the other Time Lords were doing their whole Master Plan™ before the final Dalek assault. Exactly, so It would be impossible for the doctor to have destroyed it earlier in his life, if later in his life it was still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orablanco Account 3,708 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 Exactly, so It would be impossible for the doctor to have destroyed it earlier in his life, if later in his life it was still there. Oh, you know, wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey...stuff. The portal thing the Time Lords went through was in "real time", but rather a link to the past, right before the Doctor used the Moment. It's kind of like how in "Blink" when the Doctor, stuck in the past, used Bill to send a message to Sally in the future. Onwards to my DeviantArt page! Sig by the illustrious Kyoshi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Luigi 2,065 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 Oh, you know, wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey...stuff. The portal thing the Time Lords went through was in "real time", but rather a link to the past, right before the Doctor used the Moment. It's kind of like how in "Blink" when the Doctor, stuck in the past, used Bill to send a message to Sally in the future. Not exactly the same, because I have to add here that the 10th, 11th, and War Doctors were all there. That kinda screws it up too. Just would think that it would seriously screw up canon events, like the defeat of the Master (happened in "the End Of Time"), and how would the Galilfreyans at the end be there? Not even the Doctor can manipulate his own past incarnations, if he did, he wouldn't exist technically, because the incarnation wouldn't occur. Same concept as *SPOILER ALERT* When Grovyle has to return to the future in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky, because he would ruin the timeline, because he came from an alternate future. *END OF SPOILER* This is specifically why It can't happen like it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles 109 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 It would been better if They had Celestia put up more of a fight. Plus the fact that The Mane six were fighting off an entire army seemed way too unrealistic. Plus A little work into Chrysalis's plan would been better. Overall: Its not as good as people put it out to be I might not be as good as many folks say it is. but its clearly not as horrid as you say it is. there were Plenty of problems with it. But the fun parts, witch I think your overlooking make up for it a lot. so the villain was campy as all get out and as may flaws to her plan. the action and banter made up somewhat for it. how can you hate the twilight magic machine gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orablanco Account 3,708 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 This is specifically why It can't happen like it does. Honestly, I'm willing to just chalk this up to "time can be rewritten". The fact that the other two Doctors can't remember this adventure, meaning the Doctor believes he destroyed Gallifrey, means that all that stuff in Series 1-7 still happened. Also, the rest of the people on this thread most likely don't know what we're talking about so god knows how this conversation looks. Anyway, yada yada yada, Celestia and the Mane Five were absolute jerks in that one scene, something something dark side. Onwards to my DeviantArt page! Sig by the illustrious Kyoshi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 19,058 December 8, 2013 Share December 8, 2013 It's OVERrated? Really? I hear people criticize it all the time. 1 Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 (edited) As for "Except it isn't overrated. There's plenty of flaws that have been constantly mentioned by people" I remember a certain guy called David Ker who picked this episode apart fairly and altogether wrote an excellent analysis You know what he's famous for now? If you really want to insult a MLP fan, call 'em "David Ker" I'm using Google Chrome to quote you, because for some reason Internet Explorer isn't letting people quote posts here. So if this looks weird, that's why. I have two questions, one that has to do directly with your post and one that has to do with the topic. First question, and it's a multi-tier question: Who is David Ker, and what does he have to do with what I posted? And further, what does this even have to do with the topic? Second: How does this in any way debate what I said about the episode? I'll answer this. It doesn't. In short, when you're willing to actually discuss why you don't agree with what I said, I'll be happy to explain why I said what I said. Believe me, I can explain this. The point of my previous post is this. People criticize the episode all the time, so it's not overrated. In fact, it's far from it. And also keep this in mind. True fans can appreciate what they like for its merits, while acknowledging its flaws. Edited December 9, 2013 by SBaby A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Electricity 729 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 Cadance is better but that's not saying much. I'm sorry, how is Cadence better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB 229 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 I'm using Google Chrome to quote you, because for some reason Internet Explorer isn't letting people quote posts here. So if this looks weird, that's why. I have two questions, one that has to do directly with your post and one that has to do with the topic. First question, and it's a multi-tier question: Who is David Ker, and what does he have to do with what I posted? And further, what does this even have to do with the topic? Second: How does this in any way debate what I said about the episode? I'll answer this. It doesn't. In short, when you're willing to actually discuss why you don't agree with what I said, I'll be happy to explain why I said what I said. Believe me, I can explain this. The point of my previous post is this. People criticize the episode all the time, so it's not overrated. In fact, it's far from it. And also keep this in mind. True fans can appreciate what they like for its merits, while acknowledging its flaws. David Ker was a guy with his own animation review blog, and also a regular poster on EqD(not a publisher.) What he has to do with what you posted is that he is essentially the best example of how overrated this episode was and still is. Were you around back when the episode aired. If you were critical towards it, you were shunned. Ker, who actually wrote an analysis that was negative, became a pariah across several forums. These days, his opinions are still just /ignored on EqD. Nowadays, the zeal has died down, but the massive majority of bronies consider this one of the best episodes of the show. Protip: Most of the rest of the series is better written. 1 "The meaning of life? Humans create their own meaning. They always strive onwards, upwards, to break the limits of their knowledge, the limits of their bodies capacities, and the limits of their technology.We have to take the good with the bad. We created the nuclear bomb, but we also created penicillin." Max Lundgren, Author, 1981 (Translated from Swedish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mand'alor Dash 2,225 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 Even though I wanna buck you for using one of my most hated words in the English language, THANK CELESTIA that someone else shares my feelings on this disappointing and underwhelming episode. Amoral cynic with a bitchin' vocabulary. Check out A Century of Song if you like music from before this millennium. Sig by ~Cider Barrel~ (design), Skaren (left vector), and ~Rhodarein (right vector). Avatar by ~Scootaloo (design) and Skaren (vector). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBaby 660 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 (edited) David Ker was a guy with his own animation review blog, and also a regular poster on EqD(not a publisher.) What he has to do with what you posted is that he is essentially the best example of how overrated this episode was and still is. Were you around back when the episode aired. If you were critical towards it, you were shunned. Ker, who actually wrote an analysis that was negative, became a pariah across several forums. These days, his opinions are still just /ignored on EqD. Nowadays, the zeal has died down, but the massive majority of bronies consider this one of the best episodes of the show. Protip: Most of the rest of the series is better written. Actually, I was quite critical toward it (even though ultimately, I still liked the episode), and nobody really seemed to mind. It seems like what you brought up is more of a problem with EqD itself than this site when it comes to criticism (and even then, it's probably only with a few people). Know this about criticism. The reason people criticize something they like, is because they care about what they like. They voice concerns regarding flaws they see, both mechanically and fundamentally, because they want the show to succeed. Some people do it in a satirical sense. I on the other hand don't. I see something, and I say 'this is what I thought worked, and this is what I thought didn't, or what I thought could use improvement'. I do however have a unique advantage of being one of the few people who has seen parts of what was cut from the episode, which is why I tend to be a bit more lenient with it, despite being able to easily point out the more obvious flaws in what we did get. Edited December 9, 2013 by SBaby A Winner Is You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declen 118 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 David Ker was a guy with his own animation review blog, and also a regular poster on EqD(not a publisher.) What he has to do with what you posted is that he is essentially the best example of how overrated this episode was and still is. Were you around back when the episode aired. If you were critical towards it, you were shunned. Ker, who actually wrote an analysis that was negative, became a pariah across several forums. These days, his opinions are still just /ignored on EqD. What is about that guy?He seems to express his feelings freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 What is about that guy? He seems to express his feelings freely. Where the hell has Anthony C been? (and yes his critic on a canter lot wedding is directly on topic) I know he's been in pod cast land but i prey he goes back to reviewing episodes, he's historical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB 229 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 What is about that guy? He seems to express his feelings freely. Yeah... but he posted his actual review of the episode in April 2013, by which time the zeal had died down immensely. As did Tommy Oliver. Digibrony didn't even post his yet. Ker posted his review in May 2012, just a week or so after the episode was released. I will say this: It's an overrated episode, but far less so these days than it was in the past. "The meaning of life? Humans create their own meaning. They always strive onwards, upwards, to break the limits of their knowledge, the limits of their bodies capacities, and the limits of their technology.We have to take the good with the bad. We created the nuclear bomb, but we also created penicillin." Max Lundgren, Author, 1981 (Translated from Swedish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy0 338 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 I'm sorry, how is Cadence better? Well she actually has a personality yeah a boring one but it's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mywas 687 December 9, 2013 Author Share December 9, 2013 David Ker was a guy with his own animation review blog, and also a regular poster on EqD(not a publisher.) What he has to do with what you posted is that he is essentially the best example of how overrated this episode was and still is. Were you around back when the episode aired. If you were critical towards it, you were shunned. Ker, who actually wrote an analysis that was negative, became a pariah across several forums. These days, his opinions are still just /ignored on EqD. Nowadays, the zeal has died down, but the massive majority of bronies consider this one of the best episodes of the show. Protip: Most of the rest of the series is better written. Wait, what, WHAT??!?I have been on a lot of other fandoms and seen many people express their unpopular opinion and even though there are some shitstorms and such it never got that point. Heck on a Pro wrestling forums some guy Is a fan of John Cena who is highly hated yet the users respected his opinion. I feel sorry for Ker even though I just heard of him. Credits to Mint Drop for an awesome Sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles 109 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 The story I think is overrated the songs No fantastic songs. and sorry to say even the twilight crimson machine gun of doom cant save the show from the plot holes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 (edited) Wait, what, WHAT??!? I have been on a lot of other fandoms and seen many people express their unpopular opinion and even though there are some shitstorms and such it never got that point. Heck on a Pro wrestling forums some guy Is a fan of John Cena who is highly hated yet the users respected his opinion. I feel sorry for Ker even though I just heard of him. you kinda didn't paint a picture on the pro wrestling forum's behavior to see how that holds up as a comparison. Is the inclination bronies as a whole or at leas the ones in forums are more well behaved than pro wrestling fans? Because when i left that fandumb most where bitter and jaded about it becoming the hhh show and i had to get out while i still could. Edited December 9, 2013 by FNGRpony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mywas 687 December 9, 2013 Author Share December 9, 2013 you kinda didn't paint a picture on the pro wrestling forum's behavior to see how that holds up as a comparison. Is the inclination bronies as a whole or at leas the ones in forums are more well behaved than pro wrestling fans? Because when i left that fandumb most where bitter and jaded about it becoming the hhh show and i had to get out while i still could. Yes the ICW could get dumb sometimes but the worst thing that could happen is someone making a Joke such as "time to bring the shovel" or "Supercena". It never actually gets serious.This fandom overreacts harder and over smaller things. Heck at least that "fandumb" could actually take a joke, insult a favorite pony of someone in this fandom and your worst than hitler Credits to Mint Drop for an awesome Sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 Yes the ICW could get dumb sometimes but the worst thing that could happen is someone making a Joke such as "time to bring the shovel" or "Supercena". It never actually gets serious. This fandom overreacts harder and over smaller things. Heck at least that "fandumb" could actually take a joke, insult a favorite pony of someone in this fandom and your worst than hitler well, to put that in context (even as a ex fan who watched pro wrestling sense Harley race was king in the wwf on saturday morning ) the period i left pro wrestling alot fans were hanging on, waiting for the darkness to pass, jaded because the attitude era, wcw, ecw, and so many things they liked had gone away, filled by a void by a guy who literally married the bosses daughter. (IRL but i'm explaining that to non wrestling fans) to put it on context, the pro wrestling fans I left were filled to the brim with bitterness (and rightfully so) are pro wrestling fans easy going today simply because there's not so much to kick up crap about? As apposed to when hhh pretended to make love to a dead body (No troll this happened). How often in short is the fabric of pro wrestling turned up side down from the core value of the sport today? cause when i saw it use to, pro wrestling fans sure lose their minds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles 109 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 Hmm lets test something Futtermat, rainbow dumb, Apple Jack Daniels, Princess twilight Nerd, Rarity mc greedy pants, Pinky Spoiled pie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNGRpony 658 December 9, 2013 Share December 9, 2013 Hmm lets test something Futtermat, rainbow dumb, Apple Jack Daniels, Princess twilight Nerd, Rarity mc greedy pants, Pinky Spoiled pie. *stares at my scan tron than back the teacher* is the answer c? can you put the test in context? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvTYhrZUgYY flight to the finish. i continue to improve, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mywas 687 December 9, 2013 Author Share December 9, 2013 well, to put that in context (even as a ex fan who watched pro wrestling sense Harley race was king in the wwf on saturday morning ) the period i left pro wrestling alot fans were hanging on, waiting for the darkness to pass, jaded because the attitude era, wcw, ecw, and so many things they liked had gone away, filled by a void by a guy who literally married the bosses daughter. (IRL but i'm explaining that to non wrestling fans) to put it on context, the pro wrestling fans I left were filled to the brim with bitterness (and rightfully so) are pro wrestling fans easy going today simply because there's not so much to kick up crap about? As apposed to when hhh pretended to make love to a dead body (No troll this happened). How often in short is the fabric of pro wrestling turned up side down from the core value of the sport today? cause when i saw it use to, pro wrestling fans sure lose their minds. That was in 2002/4. Heck Triple H gets Praised for his work nowdays and has a fanbase.Nowdays the ICW are complaining about Cena winning all the time. But even then it never got serious. At most he got the "Cena sucks" chants by the males in the crowd while the females and children chant "Lets go Cena" But more importantly nobody actually tried to threatening Cena, Some of the MLP writers were sent death threats for EQ. Credits to Mint Drop for an awesome Sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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