Season 4 Pinkie Pie

[hawkflame 3,315]

I think it's just a combination of the lack of Pinkie focus so far and the fact that she is fairly easy to mine for jokes. When they're not the one getting the most development in the episode it's easy to fall back on the typical tropes of the character. Just a lack of balance so far, really.

[Gone Airborne 22,008]

I like Pinkie Pie when she has a good balance with random funny takes and also how her character was built a lot between S1 & S2. I also agree that the writers really have not done much with her since S3 and the following episodes either.

Edited December 11, 2013 by Ticking Timebomb

[FNGRpony 658]

PInkie has been kinda off this season but she wasn't to bad in daring don't.

Digi's friend makes some good comments on her (the same guy who referred to her as a village idiot this season ^^)

and stated she wasn't dumb in daring don't.

I can agree.

I like tommy oliver and digi alot,

I find their views persuasive not mandatory.

 

and yes kimi sprarkles is a blight.

and not in a fun blight kinda way lol.

Edited December 11, 2013 by FNGRpony

[DokiLoki 519]

I really agree with your brief opinion there. I guess its just one of the reasons why the writers are being really lazy. -_-

Edited December 11, 2013 by Cherry Changa

[Sabrinie 392]

I was thinking the exact same thing actually. She is super flat so far and almost seems like she regressed back into Pinkie from Friendship is Magic Part 1 and 2....I don't know, I just find almost all of her dialogue annoying and unnecessary. It feels like she's only being used as a comedic voice and nothing more. 

[River 59]

I miss the old pinkie pie.  

She was pretty good in Too Many Pinkie Pies.

[Bucky McGillyCuddy 956]

Not really a fan of people who do in depth analyses of shows like MLP, as long as it's entertaining you don't need to know the psychology of it, most of which just seems to be drawing in the dirt anyway. Staying on topic though, Pinkie is a character I seem to like more and more every time I see her. It doesn't bother me if she's just serves a comedic release (because she does it damn well). That aside, she hasn't even featured in an episode yet so I'd advice to wait until then before fans start to worry about her becoming too one-dimensional. 

[Noodles 109]

Perceived Backsliding of character development is always disappointing and to much pointless randomness gets old fast. pinkie can be pointlessly random in small amounts. the random holiday so she can throw a party is classic pinkie pie, getting so out of focus over frosting she forgets about her best friends not so much.

[Nerdy Luigi 2,065]

She's the same Pinkie. Her character has undergone extremely few changes that are actually noticeable since Season 2 when the developers developed her character more. (Need to do that with Sweetie Belle, but that's for another thread.)

[Koelath 445]

"analytical videos" - ...Seriously?

 

"great brony analyzers" - They're not great. They just talk about a cartoon. Woo-hoo.

 

"[i apparently require other people I don't even know to inform me of my views on TV characters before I can make any realizations!]" - ...Good for you.

 

 

It's a cartoon about multicolored ponies. Who is so obsessed that they're legitimately analyzing it? As for Pinkie Pie, she's happy and comical in this season just like in every other season. Where's the problem?

[Koelath 445]

objective faults

 

There is literally no such thing as "objective faults". They are all based on perception and opinion, both of which are subjective.

[Sir Wulfington 276]

I don't know if I'd say that the writers are just focusing on her goofy nature and not the other parts of her personality, but that one moment near the end of castle-mane-ia where she's bouncing with derp eyes and her tongue sticking out with a silly smile on her face made me feel.......uh.......concerned......as if that moment said something about how the writer of that episode views Pinkie as a character.

Edited December 11, 2013 by Sir Wulfington

[Yellow Diamond 7,579]

"analytical videos" - ...Seriously?

 

"great brony analyzers" - They're not great. They just talk about a cartoon. Woo-hoo.

 

"[i apparently require other people I don't even know to inform me of my views on TV characters before I can make any realizations!]" - ...Good for you.

 

 

It's a cartoon about multicolored ponies. Who is so obsessed that they're legitimately analyzing it? As for Pinkie Pie, she's happy and comical in this season just like in every other season. Where's the problem?

 

Isn't this a rather facile argument? You could effectively replace MLP with any piece of media and assert it is pointless to perform analysis. Why analyze Macbeth? It's a 400 year-old play about power hungry white guys that barely anyone can understand. Why bother looking at Star Wars or Star Trek? They're just about space ships that fire lasers at one another while flying really fast.

 

My point is not to place My Little Pony on the same pedestal as Shakespeare or preeminent contemporary cultural icons; instead I find it is weak to dismiss a narrative solely on the basis of its medium. Pinkie Pie is a cartoon character -- yet she also has an established personality and traits which can be dissected and discussed. Furthermore, as a piece of public media, MLP -- including its narrative, setting, and characters -- is more than legitimate enough to be subject to serious scrutiny.

[Sir Wulfington 276]

It's a cartoon about multicolored ponies. Who is so obsessed that they're legitimately analyzing it?

 

Isn't this a rather facile argument? You could effectively replace MLP with any piece of media and assert it is pointless to perform analysis. Why analyze Macbeth? It's a 400 year-old play about power hungry white guys that barely anyone can understand. Why bother looking at Star Wars or Star Trek? They're just about space ships that fire lasers at one another while flying really fast.

 

My point is not to place My Little Pony on the same pedestal as Shakespeare or preeminent contemporary cultural icons; instead I find it is weak to dismiss a narrative solely on the basis of its medium. Pinkie Pie is a cartoon character -- yet she also has an established personality and traits which can be dissected and discussed. Furthermore, as a piece of public media, MLP -- including its narrative, setting, and characters -- is more than legitimate enough to be subject to serious scrutiny.

 

I agree with Spoon, the fact that it's a cartoon about multicolored ponies does not mean it shouldn't be analyzed and criticized like any other work of fiction.

[Noodles 109]

Some folks that really like a form of entertainment are prone to analyze it Or over analyze it. its part of how some folks enjoy the show. its telling their thoughts and ideas. if you think they are telling you what to think perhaps it is you that don't know what to think or are trying to lash out at something or someone cause you feel bad about watching such a pointless show about multicolored ponies.

 

or I am completely off base. perhaps you cant sand folks "wasting their time" analyzing a cartoon. the big key to that one is its their time to invest and plainly they don't think its a waste of time or pointless. if you don't like my little pony reviews here is a good idea don't watch or read them. but please do not tell someone else that what they do is pointless. because what is Pointless is relative.

[Sunlight 357]

PInkie has been kinda off this season but she wasn't to bad in daring don't.

Digi's friend makes some good comments on her (the same guy who referred to her as a village idiot this season ^^)

and stated she wasn't dumb in daring don't.

I can agree.

I like tommy oliver and digi alot,

I find their views persuasive not mandatory.

 

and yes kimi sprarkles is a blight.

and not in a fun blight kinda way lol.

Pinkie didn't really talk too much at all in Daring Don't. But I agree she acted pretty well in that episode. I liked how when Twilight and RD were talking about the books she was nodding her head through the whole thing.

[River 59]

This explains everything.

Edited December 11, 2013 by River

[Music Chart Fan 819]

My problem with Pinkie for a while now isn't just that she's mostly been a one-note character, but also that that one note is to be stupid, hyper, random, and annoying, often all at the same time. Maybe the intended audience reaction to Pinkie's antics is to laugh or say "Yep, that's Pinkie!" but my reaction is more like "What the hell is she doing?" and "Is she really that stupid?".

 

I think the issue with Pinkie being a one-note stupid/hyper/random/annoying character has been particularly bad for a while, though, not just in Season 4 so far, but throughout most of Season 3 as well. I've found her to be significantly more entertaining when she's NOT doing that same old shtick, such as in most of Party of One, or even in Too Many Pinkie Pies when she's depressed and later determined to pass the test.

[Koelath 445]

Furthermore, as a piece of public media, MLP -- including its narrative, setting, and characters -- is more than legitimate enough to be subject to serious scrutiny.

 

Such serious scrutiny that there is not only a vast pool of videos scrutinizing it but apparently enough "analyzers" out there to have specifically determined the great ones from the rest? Shakespeare might be worth that level of scrutiny but for MLP, that's just excessive and obsessive.

 

Also, Star Trek isn't about spaceships shooting lasers at each other. That's just the backdrop.

 

 

My problem with Pinkie for a while now isn't just that she's mostly been a one-note character, but also that that one note is to be stupid, hyper, random, and annoying, often all at the same time. Maybe the intended audience reaction to Pinkie's antics is to laugh or say "Yep, that's Pinkie!" but my reaction is more like "What the hell is she doing?" and "Is she really that stupid?".

 

I think the issue with Pinkie being a one-note stupid/hyper/random/annoying character has been particularly bad for a while, though, not just in Season 4 so far, but throughout most of Season 3 as well. I've found her to be significantly more entertaining when she's NOT doing that same old shtick, such as in most of Party of One, or even in Too Many Pinkie Pies when she's depressed and later determined to pass the test.

 

Pinkie began life as a one-note character. Does nobody in this entire fandom remember season one? She was far better in every season after the first, really. And frankly, Pinkie was at her absolute stupidest in Party of One. "Oh, my friends didn't show up to my redundant afterparty party? WELP, BETTER JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS AND TOTALLY LOSE MY MIND INSTEAD OF CONFRONTING ANYONE ABOUT IT!" - She's either being incredibly stupid or she's legitimately seriously dangerously deranged and should be locked up forever or given the electric saddle.

[Yellow Diamond 7,579]

Such serious scrutiny that there is not only a vast pool of videos scrutinizing it but apparently enough "analyzers" out there to have specifically determined the great ones from the rest? Shakespeare might be worth that level of scrutiny but for MLP, that's just excessive and obsessive.

 

Whether a reviewer is "great" or not (i.e., can be cited authoritatively and consistently) is probably subject to consensus. I don't see how MLP's status as a cartoon necessarily undermines one's ability to critically analyze the show and to do so well; likewise consider how prolific the Brony community is online. It was and still is a phenomenon cultivated on the internet, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that everyone and their sibling has something to say and a ready medium through which to convey those thoughts.

 

So yeah -- among those many opinions, a few will rise above the rest in terms of presentation. Whether or not I like, say, Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation, I'd be hard pressed to dismiss him on the basis of the fact he reviews video games.

[FNGRpony 658]

"analytical videos" - ...Seriously?

 

"great brony analyzers" - They're not great. They just talk about a cartoon. Woo-hoo.

 

"[i apparently require other people I don't even know to inform me of my views on TV characters before I can make any realizations!]" - ...Good for you.

 

 

It's a cartoon about multicolored ponies. Who is so obsessed that they're legitimately analyzing it? As for Pinkie Pie, she's happy and comical in this season just like in every other season. Where's the problem?

I'll have you know those nut jobs got me into the show LOL.

That was the whole thing just how deep does the rabbit hole go?

 

okay there's a show,

there fan fics for the show, okay that's normal,

there reviewers for the show.... wtf?

those reviewers have fans....

fans of fans, i was stopped dead in my tracks.  What madness was this. 

 

i beleive the video was digi thoroughly fanboying return of harmoney or something like that,

 

I watched the video and i was like

He's insane.. i must kill him and take his power for my own.  (lol okay not that bad)

I love over thinking things,

and bull shit.

ALOT.

 

so yeah.

Whether a reviewer is "great" or not (i.e., can be cited authoritatively and consistently) is probably subject to consensus. I don't see how MLP's status as a cartoon necessarily undermines one's ability to critically analyze the show and to do so well; likewise consider how prolific the Brony community is online. It was and still is a phenomenon cultivated on the internet, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that everyone and their sibling has something to say and a ready medium through which to convey those thoughts.

 

So yeah -- among those many opinions, a few will rise above the rest in terms of presentation. Whether or not I like, say, Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation, I'd be hard pressed to dismiss him on the basis of the fact he reviews video games.

 

I don't dismiss ben yahtzee cause he reviews video games.

 

I dismiss been cause he's miserable pretentious ass.  Don't get me wrong he's a laugh riot. but the the whole point of a video game review is to inform people about video games.  Might this be something i'm interested in.

 

Ben yahtzee is this jay sherman "It stinks!" reviewer who's whole job is to shit all over everything he possibly can

while giving indie games a good throughly verbal blow job.

 

as a performer and entertainer he's amazing.

as a reviewer he's garbage.

[Koelath 445]

Ben yahtzee is this jay sherman "It stinks!" reviewer who's whole job is to shit all over everything he possibly can...

 

*aside glance to all of Yahtzee's positive non-indie reviews*

 

Yeah, he totally does that...

[Yellow Diamond 7,579]

Please reread my comment more closely: my point was not to derail the discussion into a debate about Yahtzee's review style. I instead wanted to elaborate on how I reject the notion that the medium being reviewed might instantly make any analysis pointless.

 

I think we've actually gone well off-topic. My apologies to folks still trying to discuss Pinkie Pie's portrayal in Season 4. Pinkie is a tough character to smoothly insert into an episode without people crying foul about how she's too goofy. I don't think she's any more "random" than she was in Season 1, but we probably expect more from her because the Pinkie-centric episodes tend to vividly peel back layers of her personality. If she isn't having a psychotic breakdown or experiencing abandonment issues, somehow she's not deep enough.

[BlinkZ 1,151]

Big lipped pinkie moment... (spin on big lipped aligator moment meme from nostagia critic)

 

She is a bit too random and yes hte whole she thought the school bell thing was a whole day ting gah pinkie is not a idiot.   PInkie throwing a party for no reason...well that sound a lot like just random fan fic fodder but maybe i'm nick picking. 

 

eeyup the writers must think that here only traits, random,dumb, and parties lot and lots of parties, oh and more random in a serious conversation

[Noodles 109]

 

 

She is a bit too random and yes hte whole she thought the school bell thing was a whole day ting gah pinkie is not a idiot. PInkie throwing a party for no reason...well that sound a lot like just random fan fic fodder but maybe i'm nick picking.

I don't know find a reason any reason to party sounds like pinkie pie to me. perhaps it as during a time of the year where there was not a good excuse to party so she made one up. that is pinkie pie. the bell ting yea that was kind of dumb.