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What if everything which has transpired is really a dream by Twilight inside the dream of Pinkie Pie inside the dream of Spike...?

 

Inside the Matrix.

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What if everything which has transpired is really a dream by Twilight inside the dream of Pinkie Pie inside the dream of Spike...?

 

Inside the Matrix.

 

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Woah... So Discord screwed with the whole characterization behind the main 6... This concludes discord=baws.


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It's a kids show, I doubt the writers would think that deeply of such things. It could have simply been a spell that showed the others her own memories, thus awakening their own. However, its still a very plausible theory, especially with the way S2 has been so far. As well as one of the more interesting fan theories i've seen.


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Congratulations. The twist ending for Season Two has now been officially spoiled.

 

And since the pony is out of the barn, as it were, I guess it can't hurt to reveal that in addition to magically changing the personalities of her friends, she also added a little "insurance" for good measure.

 

Specifically, code phrases that will trigger preset behaviors that the ponies will perform under post-hypnotic suggestion. Examples include cleaning her library, mandatory sleepovers, addressing her as "Princess Twilight", robbing banks, hijacking trains, dancing for her amusement, assassinating Princess Celestia (hey, you never know when that might become necessary) and the like.

 

But you didn't hear that from me. :P

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Congratulations. The twist ending for Season Two has now been officially spoiled.

 

And since the pony is out of the barn, as it were, I guess it can't hurt to reveal that in addition to magically changing the personalities of her friends, she also added a little "insurance" for good measure.

 

Specifically, code phrases that will trigger preset behaviors that the ponies will perform under post-hypnotic suggestion. Examples include cleaning her library, mandatory sleepovers, addressing her as "Princess Twilight", robbing banks, hijacking trains, dancing for her amusement, assassinating Princess Celestia (hey, you never know when that might become necessary) and the like.

 

But you didn't hear that from me. :P

 

Don't worry. Tomorrow's issue of TV Guide will cover your back. ;)


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Congratulations. The twist ending for Season Two has now been officially spoiled.

 

And since the pony is out of the barn, as it were, I guess it can't hurt to reveal that in addition to magically changing the personalities of her friends, she also added a little "insurance" for good measure.

 

Specifically, code phrases that will trigger preset behaviors that the ponies will perform under post-hypnotic suggestion. Examples include cleaning her library, mandatory sleepovers, addressing her as "Princess Twilight", robbing banks, hijacking trains, dancing for her amusement, assassinating Princess Celestia (hey, you never know when that might become necessary) and the like.

 

But you didn't hear that from me. :P

 

Did it also include building her a cultist shrine secretly in the mountains where she can go and be worshipped by thousands of mind controlled ponies?

 

Because she really needs one of those. Every good protagonist turned antagonist needs one!

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Eh, I don't see any reason to believe the memory spell was anything other than what it was meant to be. These mindscrew theories entertain me anyway, and I very much like the idea of Discord having a backup plan.


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What if everything which has transpired is really a dream by Twilight inside the dream of Pinkie Pie inside the dream of Spike...?

 

Inside the Matrix.

 

well that's just stupid

 

The world of Friendship is Magic, the world of Equestria, is all a dream of Spike whom is a human child that is now in a near death coma, and in the real world he had a sister complex that followed soon after the death of his older sister..

 

 

 

characters:

 

Spike- taking on the form of a young dragon, his appearance from everyone else's that lives in this world represents the minds way of telling him that the only person there that actually exist is himself. The dragon is the perfect representation for his body, as that his kind's longevity and that the world will last as long as he wants it to, and that once he dies, the world will then be unneeded and will fall into the same blackness as he will, but for now, his longing to stay in the false world that he has created is what keeps everything together.

 

The reason why we have never seen Spike's parents is because he had already blocked them out of his mind, because he can only find true happiness only when he is by his sister's (Twilight's) side.

 

Celestia- representation of how high he sees his sister, always kind and loving towards him. Her relationship with Twilight is what represents his love towards his sister, this is also shown as that Spike was there when Twilight was accepted as Celstia's student.

 

 

Luna- The tragic figure that represents that fated night long ago, that night under the full moon Spike's sister was killed by a monster (a thief) and was taken away from him for all of eternity.

 

When Luna was freed from nightmare moon was in attempt to make Spike to realize what has happened in the real world, but he was put to sleep before it happened in a defense to not accept the truth. His mind in attempt to protect the child's mind casted Luna away for the remaining of the season, her first and only words she spoke was directed only to Spike "I'm so sorry [for leaving]" and "I miss you so much [little brother]" it is unknown at the time if this was the mind's words, or if these were in fact from the spirit of his deceased sister.

 

Nightmare Night came about as Spike started to take notice of the world around him, after the Discord fiasco, his dragon costume he was wearing is the representation of the shell that his mind gave him the form of. Luna returns, but different then before. Luna here was created as a sense of normality to Spike, in that telling him that nothing was wrong with the world, but this Luna's was different in appearance. Unlike all the other "ponies" Luna is different, unlike the others she isn't an imagination of spike's mind, in that she is based on on a real person from the real world, but yet still is a character created from the "dragon's" mind, in which case is taken in the form of the "Royal Canterlot Voice" in which case it tries to break the illusion of the child's mind. In attempt to cling onto his illusion, She is also now the representation of Spike's fear of learning the truth, all the "ponies" are scared because if the truth was found out, then the world would crumble, and Spike would fall into the dark abyss of loneliness, such as that as Luna experienced all of those years ago. In attempt to save himself, "everypony" accepted Luna, still attempting to give the young dragon the sense of normality.

 

As of now, we don't know when she will appear again, but his mind will attempt to protect him again, saving him from the fear of the truth that it is hiding in the dark

 

 

Each of the mane 6 represents something that he loved about his sister, all of them exaggerated through the eyes of a young child... but also represents what he wishes not to see the world

 

 

Twilight- represents the being that is his sister, but yet she is the one that represents the one that holds the knowledge of the truth on his reality

 

Applejack- represents how honest his sister was, but yet, how he blocked off his family and pushed them to other places (such as appleloosa) in order to attempt not to come across reality

 

Rainbow Dash- represents the sister's determination not to lose, but as she connects everything with everyone else of the mane 6 (being that her sonic rainboom gave everyone their cutie marks) It's Spike's will to not give up on the past that involved his sister

 

Rarity- she is the generous side of Spike's sister, but yet has a "selfish personality" at times for his mind not to see a connection, she also is the minds pure representation of Spike's sister complex that he created

 

Pinkie Pie- represents the love and joy that the sister always brought to Spike's face, but she also represents the sadness and loneliness that Spike experienced after the tragedy of losing his sister

 

Fluttershy- the kindness his sister always showed him, Flutterrage represents all the anger Spike experience when everyone around him told him everything would be okay after his sister's death. because of such a reaction of rage, the world inside Spike's mind has treated Fluttershy as something that should be overlooked, and that if Spike were to ever notice her than he would just let it pass by with out any notice

 

 

 

 

 

Nightmare Moon- Is the first attempt of part of the mind's blunt way of trying to tell Spike what has actually going on. The darkness she is attempting to spread is the representation of the eternal darkness of death in attempt to reach out to Spike and reveal the truth. In which case, the representations of his sister overcame this part of the mind, telling him that their is always tomorrow.

 

The representation of Nightmare moon is the sole representation of the monster that killed Spike's sister. but it also represents other fears that Spike had been holding back, "The fear of being forgotten," but this will be explained upon in "Secret of my excess." as well as the fear of being all alone. In series wise, as everypony slept through the night, Luna felt lonely in that regard as she had no one to share her world with, in which case follows that nightmare moon got her. In reality, the reverse of this actually happened, The monster got Spike's sister, and now Spike lies in the pit of his loneliness as his sister "sleeps" for an eterenity

 

 

Discord- the mind's second attempt of revealing the truth. At this point it seemed to be going even more direct than that of Nightmare moon. This "Discord" was opening revealing that the world itself is false, and that everything in it can be easily be manipulated and broken, and that the ponies that represented his sister were nothing more then pieces that could be easily over turned, the reason why all the girls were turned into their opposites.

 

In an attempt, when Rainbow Dash left, Spike was the only one that could cling onto the past, that is why he become the "new Rainbow Dash"

 

The child was about to accept the truth, but the memories of his sister forcibly came up from with in him (in the form of Celestia sending Twilight's letters to her) forcing him to continue to decline the reality of the situation, causeing all the representations of his sister to return to normal and to send the essence of "Discord" and keeping it locked away in an stone imprisonment.

 

 

 

Episodes :

 

 

Owl's well that ends well:

 

Owlowiscious- represents the conundrum that would of taken place in the real world, that only Spike himself would rememeber the way that his sister want's treated him, it is represented in the case as Spike tries to talk to the owl, but the the bird only asks "Who?" no matter how many times Spike tried to explain it, the bird (anyone he would try to talk to in reality) would not understand whom it is he is talking about, in the case that no body but those before her death would not know anything about his sister.

 

Twilight's "attempt" to replace Spike is a representation of Spike's fear of wondering if his sister still loved him, or if that she had replaced him where ever she is with someone else.

 

The Green Dragon- The reaction of his parents, but in truth the reverse of the situation was what had happened in reality. In this world, the dragon tried to get rid of Spike, but in reality his parent's tried to open up even greater to him, trying to show that their home is still their home, and that they are still family. But Spike couldn't accept that because one piece of their family was missing, so he "ran" from them and tried to return to his sister's side... and no matter how much they tried to call out to him, just continued to run in his own dark forest with his sister.

 

 

 

 

 

Secret of my excess-

 

The major theme here is Spike's "Fear of forgetting/ or being forgotten" in which it is represented of in the form of growing up. The memories of someone is what gives the proof of someone their existence in the world, even after death - but it is as of fact, that as you grow up you forget stuff: Spike would remember that he did miss his sister, but he wouldn't be able to recall "the pain" of having a sister, there would even be the chance of forgetting her face.

 

As he grew, Spike started to become more clingy, representing that as he would of grown older, it was his attempts to keep those precious memories alive... but as time goes on, people forget, in this case it's Spike going ballistic, as if he was some kind of mindless creature, with no memories of himself or his past that he longed for.

 

But the one memory did survive... it's just that as time goes on that people forget, but you can't ever forget about your first love. Rarity the pure representation of Spike's love for his sister was what that brought him back, bringing back those memories returning his world back to normal

 

Spike wanted to tell her how much he loved her, but his mind stopped him from doing so, for the truth was, no matter how many times he said it, no matter how strong he would say the words, his sister would never love him back the way he does for her

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This total BS theory was brought to you by, "Ash in a coma"

 

remember, the reason why Ash sucks, is because he is in a coma.

 

 

wow... that was more fun then I thought

 

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*Fantastic wall of text*

 

 

 

This total BS theory was brought to you by, "Ash in a coma"

 

remember, the reason why Ash sucks, is because he is in a coma.

 

 

wow... that was more fun then I thought

 

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And then you won the thread.


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It's an excellent theory, and makes perfect logical sense.

I highly doubt that was the intention of the episode, however. :L


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Crazy theories spawning from overanalysis are crazy, yet still interesting and fun to imagine even if they will never come to fruition. That Pokemon one with Ash to this day is still the one that blew out my mind like a birthday cake candle the most.

 

Twilight's memory revitalization makes sense but I'll bet my left shoe that is nowhere near what the writers intended.


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Can I say that is utterly wrong? She only said she used a memory spell, that doesn't mean it was her memory she was using. She was just unlocking their own memories of their friendships. No mind rape occured. And Discord's face has only one emotion - utter terror at being sealed again. I rest my case.

 

Of course, I agree...

 

But I was just thinking, there seems to be an almost tangible difference inbetween Rainbow Dash of S1 and S2, and Rarity, too. It actually makes sense in that context, in a disturbing kinda way...

 

They're still the same ponies... It's just their memories have been altered... But they're the same, still, right? Even if... Oh no... :huh:

*incoming deep philosophical debate about the nature of what defines an individual*

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Congratulations. The twist ending for Season Two has now been officially spoiled.

 

And since the pony is out of the barn, as it were, I guess it can't hurt to reveal that in addition to magically changing the personalities of her friends, she also added a little "insurance" for good measure.

 

Specifically, code phrases that will trigger preset behaviors that the ponies will perform under post-hypnotic suggestion. Examples include cleaning her library, mandatory sleepovers, addressing her as "Princess Twilight", robbing banks, hijacking trains, dancing for her amusement, assassinating Princess Celestia (hey, you never know when that might become necessary) and the like.

 

But you didn't hear that from me. :P

 

That won't be necessary. Just the cue "Would you kindly..." and force them to do whatever comes after it. ^_^

Kudos to whoever gets that. That game was too grimdark for me to finish but my bro showed me the ending anyways XD

 

Crazy theories spawning from overanalysis are crazy, yet still interesting and fun to imagine even if they will never come to fruition. That Pokemon one with Ash to this day is still the one that blew out my mind like a birthday cake candle the most.

 

Twilight's memory revitalization makes sense but I'll bet my left shoe that is nowhere near what the writers intended.

 

But the sheer amount they put into the background actually puts this a little into question. Hmm. Makes me want to see who wrote what episodes... It's like whoever did Rarity in "Lesson Zero" had never handled Rarity before.

 

Referencing "The Matrix" is so last century (literally). All the cool kids these days reference "Inception."

 

BAAAAUM

BAAAAUM

*stuff starts randomly exploding eveywhere*

BAAAAUM

 

Ponyception.

 

Only applies if something is within something else, though. Like Daring Do. Fiction within fiction! Fiception!

 

BAAAAUM

BAAAAUM

*stuff starts randomly exploding eveywhere*

BAAAAUM

 

Daring Do barely escapes explosions and wakes up.

ON MARS.

But is she REALLY awake?

 

BAAAAUM

BAAAAUM

BA - I'll stop there...

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Considering how Discord is portrayed, this is actually a very legitimate point. In the episode, Discord is obviously seen as someone who doesn't make his "game" fair. He plays by no pony's rules, not even his own, and knew exactly what he was doing. One can argue he knew exactly how strong the elements were because of how far he went to hide them, with the use of the labyrinth, and riddle. The labyrinth scene really shook them up, and essentially started the domino effect, or "Transformation". It ruined their friendship, and it seems they were completely fine with splitting up, even Twilight gave into it after some time, and was ready to move on. Enter Princess Celistia who could have easily been in on Discord's plan the entire time. The show revolves around not what friendship is, but TWILIGHT'S DEFINITION of what friendship is. Princess Celistia gave Twilight back her views on them to essentially "Brain wash" the pony's. Assuming Celistia was in on Discord's plan to only brain wash them, this is a long shot, however, can be considered a valid point.

 

I understand this could be a considered a shot in the dark, and feel free to call me out on this, I love a little friendly confrontation! :)

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