Queen Cassie

Whoops, sorry. I'd honestly forgotten that was where I got that from. These are some good points. Leaving it as it is probably does make more sense than trying to finagle it. Anyways, thanks.

So, we all know and love Fallout Equestria. It's one of the most famous stories in the entire fandom, right up there with things like Cupcakes, My Little Dashie, and Past Sins. Just about everyone who's a pony fan reads it sooner or later. It spawned numerous side stories; an entire fandom all of its own for just Fallout Equestria, including the incredible twice-the-length FOE: Project Horizons. But the thing is... Fallout Equestria is significantly and substantially out of date. It was written back during the hiatus between season one and season two, for goodness's sake. While it very briefly near the end touched on the idea of Discord (and indeed Project Horizons would go on to include substantial amounts of season two canon) the simple fact is that the show's world has changed. Season one was the definition of small scale. Nightmare Moon aside, we hardly ever saw the world around Ponyville or outside the view of the Mane Six. We had scarce details; whole swathes of the world were so open to interpretation that Kkat, the author of FOE, was free to paint the canvas with her views. Zebras were chosen as the enemy because they were one of only five creatures even known to exist(the other three, of course, being the ponies, griffons, dragons, and buffalo.) It was easy to make catchy slogans like "Better Wiped than Striped" because she had nothing in her way. They were the most convenient. But the world of FIM post season seven and post The Movie is an entirely different landscape. We have a map that spans an entire continent and a partial view of two others. We have scads of nations out there, some seen, some not. We've seen all kinds of new creatures, from yaks to hippogriffs to Abyssinian cats to Saddle Arabian horses and so many more. Creatures which one seemed like mostly feral entities, such as the dragons, have proven to have substantial societies. The culture of Equestria has been repeatedly expanded upon with holidays such as Hearth's Warming and Nightmare Night. New alicorns exist, such as Cadance and her daughter Flurry, and of course let's not forget the absolute game changer that is Princess Twilight. The Elements of Harmony have their origins revealed; the pillars of Equestria, Starswirl the Bearded (who wasn't even known to exist until Luna Eclipsed, and his true effects not known till much later) lives in the present alongside his fellow pillars. Even Equestria's technology has been repeatedly shown to vary in such ways that seem to preclude the development towards Fallout-style technologies. There's also the connection to Canterlot High and the human world there. This canvas is far harder to paint on. So many things about Fallout Equestria have been rendered impossible by canon, from simple things such as the layout of cities (up until the map was first released the show had implied in Applejack's cutie mark story that Manehattan was on the WEST coast, not the east coast) to the whole program of alicorn development (Twilight being an alicorn changes everything. Everything!) Indeed Zebras couldn't possibly be the enemy, now that we know their nation doesn't even exist on the same continent as Equestria. The Mane Six have such a strong friendship bond, far stronger than anything they had in season one, making it excruciatingly difficult to tear them apart as FOE did. The existence of Discord and Starlight Glimmer as forces for good, the physical Hell of Tartarus... the list of game changes goes on and on. So thus, we're left with a question: how could we remake Fallout Equestria in this landscape? What can we do to cause the current canon to twist in the direction of balefire bombs and global Armageddon? What sort of world might Littlepip or Blackjack see upon leaving their Stables two hundred years afterwards? Can we even do this in a way that works, in a way that incorporates every last game changer ever to come out? I've been wracking my brain trying to figure this out, and so far I haven't had much success. Thus I turn to you, my fellow pony fans, for assistance. What say you?

But, Muffins, why? Why did you do it? I'd turn her in, reluctantly, because frankly she ripped off a museum. If she had stolen from, say, Prince Blueblood or some other high muckety muck that wouldn't miss the goods, I'm chaotic enough to say more power to her and cover her. But since it was a museum, no. But I would go to her trial and argue in favor of job placement for her rehabilitation, something good. And I'd take care of Dinky and Amethyst for her while she's doing her time.

I'm going to have to agree. Like much of season six, this episode was poorly planned, poorly written, and... just plain embarrassing to watch.

So, shipping is a complicated subject. It's wildly up to personal interpretation, desires, etc. For example, being pansexual but homoromantic(With a lone exception in my most wonderful Harold), I highly prefer lesbian ships to heterosexual ships, because I like to ship based upon the chemistry the characters have with each other, or in other words, the way relationships actually work in real life. Real world relationships are not at all the way they're usually presented in fiction. No one goes all blushy and then "falls in love" without being friends with their lover in at least some way. Your lover should really be your best friend too, and if that's not the case your relationship is not founded on solid ground. Unwanted advice aside, I also, to quote a friend, like to exercise the Theory of Quantum Shipping: that is, any/all ships can and do exist simultaneously, kind of like Schrodinger's Cat except applied to multiple universes or what have you. Or in other words, I can happily ship things like Rarijack, Flarity, and TwiShy at the same time with absolutely no problems about "otps" whatsoever. More to the point I also think a romance would be good for the show. Not at all in the sense of how Flashlight or... eeeeeeeugh... Timberlight was presented, but a natural evolution of a friendship into a relationship. As the greatest chemistry is between the various members of the Mane Six, ideally this would mean two of the Mane Six (or more because yay polyamory) becoming lovers, something I think could be very easily handled in the show in a manner respective to the target audience and written in a way that it falls in line naturally with an episode's story and then is referenced every now and again in episodes proceeding where it is introduced, by little things like hugs and kisses on the cheek. A lesbian romance would also be highly ideal for the show as, no matter what some bronies might think, it has always been about the myriad ways a girl can be a girl, and being a lady who likes ladies is just another one of those ways. Besides, little girls can be lesbians too. So, to conclude my wandering post, I'm going to procede to copy/paste something that no longer exists on the internet as my Tumblr was deleted a couple of years ago, and I stand by what it says. It's about one of my favorite ships, TwiShy. Incidentally this was written sometime during the hiatus between seasons four and five.

Twilight outright declares zebras aren't ponies in Bridle Gossip (I just checked) but it's not something that's been elaborated on since. And she's still the only zebra we've seen in the entire show's run, so I want to say it's up to the viewer to interpret? I only say that because zebras are the only other sophont species in Equestria with a cutie-mark like glyph, and thus they're obviously at the very least closely related to the Equestrian ponies.

I completely agree she should be in the intro. I mean if they have characters who almost never show up like Snips and Snails and Mayor Mare in that "Friends....~!" photo, then yes Trixie deserves to be there since she's a semi-regular cast member now. Still not entirely sure what to think about that but she is kind of a snarky sarcastic asshole all the time and that's refreshing on this show, so yeah.

Season Six sucked massively because it was too over-focused on having moments with stallions and introduced two of the worst characters ever to exist in the Gen IV franchise: Zephyr Breeze and Quibble Pants. (The third is Timber Spruce.) Honest Apple was an amazingly hilarious episode. The show needs to focus mostly on female characters because it's a show for girls about all the ways one can be a girl. As such this should include canonical lesbians. Sparity is horrible and should be canonically shot down until/unless both are adults in which case I'll reserve the right to judge it then. There needs to be far less examples of patriarchy showing up on the show, i.e. no more crap like the Pie family name descending through the male line when if anything as a society (and given their basis as a species on real life horses) lineage should be maternal. The writers need to think more before they write things for the show.

I'm going to post my initial thoughts here, and save a detailed analysis for a later time. Back around 2012-2013, when I was on this forum a ton, I used to write detailed analyses of episodes in their threads--you can still see these in most of the season two threads, for example. At the moment, however, I am somewhat inebriated, and thus cannot properly analyze. So, initial thoughts: I thought this episode was absolutely hysterical. I fully expected it to be a meta commentary on fandom in general and this fandom in specific, and it delivered. More to the point however, it also showed us just how the ponies have changed since they wrote those lessons... as well as how they haven't. In particular Fluttershy's scene in the "walk around to see how my friends are taking it" thing Twilight does is spot on perfection. Everyone is all up in arms because Fluttershy isn't learning lessons the first time around, and not only does she get to draw herself up and show just how assertive she's really become (I am so proud of her) she also nails it when she asks the pony complaining "Can you honestly say you can learn something one time and completely change who you are?" Just, friggen yes. Also, that song was... frankly, it surprised me. Apart from the Hearth's Warming Eve episode back in early season six, all the songs of the past two seasons have, frankly, sucked. They haven't been nearly as enjoyable, almost as though Danny boy wasn't giving it his all. Yes I'm aware that the lyrics are usually written by the episode authors, but still. This song, however, was just... it spoke to me. It spoke to me pretty dang hard. And I don't just mean the incredibly shippy animation. It celebrates how we can all make mistakes and do stupid things, and so on. It spoke to me in particular because of my emotional problems, and how frequently I can, well... make a mess of things. But yeah, it was a good episode. Also, have some shippy screenies:

So, looks like we've got a new music video. This one stars Applejack, and it's a little... odd? Like some kind of mix of electronic and country. I have to say I like her skills though. And it's really interesting to me to see that Applejack works at the mall in a juice shop. Makes me wonder if the rest of the Humane Seven have similar jobs. If nothing else I'm really surprised Applejack isn't just working on the farm, but given that Granny Smith works at the school it seems very much like Sweet Apple Acres in the human world just isn't at all the same as the pony version. Whatcha tink ya'll?

I think it's highly unlikely we'll get a canon "to scale" map because I don't believe any of the show staff are qualified cartographers, and it would require so much more extra detail--if nothing else such a map would require a lot more cities to be labeled, and so forth. But others have been working on various maps of Equestria since the beginning of the show (some more out there than others, though admittedly until the map first appeared all of us thought that Dodge Junction/Appleloosa were to the north of Canterlot and Manehattan was to the west of Ponyville, amongst other things) so I'm sure now that this has appeared someone somewhere is probably working on a version that'll contain a lot more detail. After all there's plenty of things we've yet to discover, such as the homeland of the zebras, or the minotaurs, and if the map from the first movie prequel comic is anything to go by, there's another continent to the east or west that contains Abyssinia, where Capper's people are from. And while I was loathe in the past to take anything from the comic as canon, Hasbro has been trying to get the show and the comics much closer recently, so the prequel comics are indeed canon, as are many other comics after a certain point. (I want to say after Issue 50? I'm not sure.)

I think it's safe to say there's probably only going to be a mild throwaway reference at most. Perhaps the "what is a ____? A miserable little pile of secrets" line. So long as we get that I'm happy. It's fairly standard for the show to only make throwaway gags, like Twilight's line in "It's About Time" referencing Terminator with the "is there an epic pony war in the distant future" or referencing Game of Thrones in "Tanks for the Memories" with "Prepare yourselves girls: Winter...is coming."

Wait, what? Seriously? Why? It was one of the funniest episodes this show has ever produced!

Were Puddinghead and Hurricane dudes, or were all of the Founders ladies? This is very important to me.

Indeed. At which point you get into the classic kind of finangling that results in any number of interpretations. MLP being so open-ended when it comes to worldbuilding and allowing you to interject all kinds of different interpretations is simultaneously enjoyable and highly frustrating. Though I should point out since I'm watching the episode right now, Griffonstone was visible from the station. It was somewhat far away, atop a mountain, but it was visible, meaning it couldn't have been more than fifteen or twenty miles away at the absolute most. That's still fairly close for my book.

Well, I'd be of two minds about it. On the one hand, if it wasn't being made to sell toys (or at least not as focused on toys) and was being written more for the sake of it being a good show, I'd be pretty happy because it'd have a lot more opportunity to explore subjects the show has not been able to explore due to its toy focus. (Such as, for example, lesbians. The show is about all the ways a girl can be a girl, after all, and being a lesbian is one of those ways.) With luck it might even be a bit more mature aimed, in the sense of having stronger world-building, serial episodes, more adventure, and just plain more adult-focused writing that enriches the world. On the other hand, if it's just moving and otherwise isn't changing in any of those ways, I'd just shrug and carry on watching as if nothing was different. Because nothing really would be.

I haven't actually read The Journal of the Two Sisters. I was tempted but I understand the show declaring that no alicorn before Flurry Heart had been born an alicorn rendered it at least partially non-canon. (And honestly I am suspect of anything that doesn't appear directly in the show/movies.) Still the general idea of a large conflict with the griffons around that time makes sense, and that does seem quite compelling. As for Griffonstone, on the older maps the place where the rail line stops is labeled Griffonstone Station, which you can see on the map I attached. That's why I say the rail line runs to Griffonstone even if it doesn't visually run all the way to the location of the city itself. Given that the map is not at all to scale it's very possible that station is actually not far from the city itself. Though it's been too long since I watched Lost Treasure of Griffonstone. I should rewatch it.

See it's debatable for me because, among other things, the city of Trottingham, a most assuredly pony city, lays on an archipelago labeled "the Griffish Isles." But also because the rail line runs right up to the ancient capital, something we don't see happening to any other country. If that city down at the southern rail line is confirmed to be part of Equestria, that only adds support to my claim. I think Griffonstone was definitely sovereign, once upon a time. But over time, especially as it fell apart, I think I could see most of the griffon territory, and the griffons dwelling within, becoming a part of Equestria for one reason or another. It's possible Griffonstone itself and a small amount of territory are still independent, but honestly I'm not so sure. Some of this also comes from my interpretation of the Equestrian government being like a form of the Holy Roman Empire, though, with Equestria divided up into a substantial number of member states. This was something I came up with for my (now cancelled) story The West Tower. Attached is a map I made up for myself for said story. This interpretation, incidentally ,came about because of the throwaway line one of the Flim Flams have back in SSCS6K about the "Kingdom of Canterlot" and has only become more solid over time. Odds are though we'll never have total confirmation in canon because this show isn't really into the kind of worldbuilding I want. It's made to sell toys.

So, examining this logically, let's run through every character. I make no assumptions as to the sexual orientation of anypony, meaning any and all types of relations are up for grabs. Fluttershy: The one that everyone says would not have any sexual experience is the one I say is the most likely to have had some. Whether it was with Rainbow Dash as experimentation, or difficulty in saying no to somepony who was pushy, Fluttershy just seems to me like someone who would have had a little something, at some point. I'd say the experimentation with Rainbow Dash is by far the more likely though. Rainbow Dash: Yeah, no, no way she hasn't had sex at some point. Even if we take the tack of assuming her whole talking herself up thing is all talk, she's just... too Rainbow Dash to not have slept with somepony at some point. As stated above, Fluttershy is one possibility. Gilda is another given how much she came across as a jilted ex-lover. But I could also see her having slept with Muffins at some point. Or any number of other ponies. With that said, I don't think any of these would have really gone anywhere save for the Fluttershy or Gilda ones. Applejack: This is one where you have to flip a coin and decide whether or not she has serious conservative(as we humans would define it) values and thus refuse to have sex, or if she's honest with herself and others about her having needs and occasionally favoring a roll in the hay from time to time. Being very liberally minded I prefer to assume the latter, and therefore she's slept with someone at some point. (And no, under no circumstances was it Big Macintosh, ffs people.) Pinkie Pie: This is again a flip of a coin situation as to whether she's perceived as too child-like and therefore no one would be interested, or if (as I've seen expressed in a few stories) she's the type who if nothing else will make a friend smile will sex said friend in order to help them feel better. I tend to presume a combination so while I think it's likely she's had a bit of sex, I could easily see her never having had any experience on account of everyone assuming she's too "innocent" to know what sex even is. Rarity: I don't think Rarity has ever had sex in her life, though not for lack of trying. Honestly the way she becomes obsessed over "true love" like Blueblood or Trenderhoof reads very much as someone who really, really wants love in her life and yet never seems to get it. That's not to say she doesn't know how to use sex appeal because we've seen her use it plenty of times even in the show (possibly most blatantly in "Rarity Investigates" with the guards.) But at the same time I can see her having standards and/or being so wrapped up in the ideals of love that she hasn't had sex simply because she hasn't met someone who fits her standards yet. Then again she could easily be the most into casual sex of all of the Mane Six; I could totally see that too. Twilight Sparkle: Now I think for once I'mma agree with everyone else that poor Twilight has never had sex in her life. Oh I'm sure she's been propositioned a few times, especially in her later years at the School for Gifted Unicorns until she graduated, but being the socially awkward nerd she is she probably didn't even understand what they were suggesting, or shut them down with biting sarcasm. Given her tendency to go blushing like mad when she meets ponies whom she finds attractive though, I think she also hasn't had experience because she doesn't really have a clue how to approach people. And then she became a Princess and it became far harder for her to even think about approaching the subject with anyone because everyone would see the wings and horn first before seeing the person she is inside, and I very much can see that bothering her. Of course all of this assumes there aren't relationships going on between the Mane Six. If there are, ALL BETS ARE OFF.