Is Trixie the great granddaughter of Starswirl the Bearded?

[Grumpy Enchantress 587]

They both dress similar and it would explain her desire to be seen as a great magician if she has his legacy on her. What do you think?

[DaReaper 1,945]

I think if she was she would make sure everpony knows. That would be out before the fighing of a ursa major

[Malinter 3,064]

If she is, she probably doesn't know she is. Apparently Trixie has been to the School for Gifted Unicorns so you'd think her magic was better. I'd guess she left or was kicked out for not following the rules. Much like the implications of RD being kicked out for being similar in attitude.

[Sunny Fox 5,952]

They both dress similar and it would explain her desire to be seen as a great magician if she has his legacy on her. What do you think?

There are two things that would argue against this theory.

 

1. Nothing in the show has ever given us the slightest indication that this is the case.

2. Nothing in the show has ever given us the slightest indication that this is the case.

 

Technically, that's only one thing, but it's such a big one that I thought it could bear mentioning twice.

[Grumpy Enchantress 587]

Apparently Trixie has been to the School for Gifted Unicorns so you'd think her magic was better.

She was probably accepted for being related to one of the greatest magicians of all time!!! 

 

There are two things that would argue against this theory.

 

1. Nothing in the show has ever given us the slightest indication that this is the case.

2. Nothing in the show has ever given us the slightest indication that this is the case.

 

Technically, that's only one thing, but it's such a big one that I thought it could bear mentioning twice.

Headcanon?

Edited March 10, 2014 by Grumpy Enchantress

[Malinter 3,064]

I just hope the "trixie is related to starswirl" doesn't connect to "starswirl is discord".

 

Trixie being related to Discord would be both amusing and horrifying. Though it'd be fun if she was totally immune to his magic and that being the reason hers is so bad. She's be like the pony version of Rincewind. Knows only one god-teir spell but can't use it or learn any other magic as a result.

[Frostgage 7,977]

This is would be an amazing plot twist. But even if not, theories like this are why they need to bring Trixie back. Her character has more potential than anypony else on the show.

Edited March 10, 2014 by Frostgage

[Khaoios 1,970]

Doubt it.  Even though they dress alike, Trixie seems to be more "cocky" and "boasts" too much.  Judging by what I hear in the show about Star Swirled, he sounds like a loner, quiet, and territorial type of unicorn.  That's just my point of view though.

[Legacy Dash 439]

If that was the case, surely Trixie would've inherited *some* of Starswirl the Bearded's magical abilities.

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

It certainly is plausible. It would certainly explain her air headed elitist attitude

[AnonBrony 1,469]

Interesting headcanon. I doubt it but maybe. It's possible I suppose. But then again it's also possible for him to be a relative of Twilight's.  One thing for certain is if that were true it would make Trixie a more regular and important character to the show.

[deadprofile 1,123]

It is an interesting headcanon...

But,

It does not seem to me that family lineage has any weight on one's own accomplishments in Equestria. Personal talent and the life "here and now" is what is most important to modern day Equestria.  If family lineage did have anything to do with relatives of Starswirl, then there would be celebrities for celebrities sake, especially if you are the child of a celebrity ...and we all know how that is IRL and that just doesn't exist in Equestria as far as we have seen.

 

Plus, since it is canon that Starswirl never learned about friendship, it is highly unlikely that he would have developed a relationship with any pony close enough to even have offspring (even if Starswirl was actually a female bearded pony).  All close relationships stem from being friends, and if Starswirl couldn't make friends, as if he's be able to get a reward like children....unless there are prostitute ponies, but if that's the case, it doesn't matter because Trixie would never know and her mother sure wouldn't know either (because of many partners)....

Edited March 10, 2014 by Treble Bolt

[Painted Lattice 131]

I like this idea.

 

Perhaps an inferiority/superiority complex with how Trixie doesn't think she'll ever be able to match up to his level of power but she longs for it.

 

Perhaps she hates Twilight because she does have that sort of potential.

 

Orrr she just doesn't know she's related to him or not.

[Seaweed-Headed Dragon 359]

It's an interesting thought. That would very interesting to see it in an episode.

[Denim&Venöm 19,703]

I believe there's a story on FiMfiction that deals with this.

 

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/173969/a-great-and-powerful-legacy

[Forlong 1,726]

Two mages ware the pointed hats with wide brims associated with mages.  It must be because they're related, not because their mages.

[PinkiePieJr 122]

That actually would seem like it could be. Put aside the fact that a cape and hat is not a factor of showing you are related, but still it would seem fitting. However, Wasn't Star Swirl like WAY long ago. Like at least when Celestia was young, if not before her birth (and she's at least 1,000 yrs. old). So if Star Swirl was super long ago, then granddaughter wouldn't work. She would have to be "x number of great" granddaughter.

[Grumpy Enchantress 587]

I believe there's a story on FiMfiction that deals with this.

 

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/173969/a-great-and-powerful-legacy

Ooooh! Thanks, I didn't know about that.

 

Two mages ware the pointed hats with wide brims associated with mages. It must be because they're related, not because their mages.

Your point would hold up at all if we'd seen any other pony dress this way outside of a Starswirl tribute. We haven't, though. MLP doesn't exist in the real world and has it's own mythology. What's considered a typical wizard outfit to us has been shown to be related to a specific great magician, if that wasn't the case Twilight would dress like he did outside of Halloween because she's the greatest living magician.

 

That actually would seem like it could be. Put aside the fact that a cape and hat is not a factor of showing you are related, but still it would seem fitting. However, Wasn't Star Swirl like WAY long ago. Like at least when Celestia was young, if not before her birth (and she's at least 1,000 yrs. old). So if Star Swirl was super long ago, then granddaughter wouldn't work. She would have to be "x number of great" granddaughter.

Him being around since Celestia was young was never shown canon. Celestia is crazy old, she could have known him all his life and he lived to be old as shit and it still wouldn't have to be when she was young.

Edited March 11, 2014 by Grumpy Enchantress

[ReverseFaller 2,484]

I don't know if she is. It'd be awesome if she was though. She would so shove the fact that she's related to Starswirl in Twilight's face. Twilight may even get a little jealous. 

[Sunny Fox 5,952]

 

 

 

Headcanon?

 

The thing is, even headcanon needs to have some basis from the show. And "both have robes and wizard hats" is simply not enough evidence that she is his descendant. Still, if you really want to believe that, go right ahead. It's just not convincing to me. If it does turn out to be the case, though, I'll be the first to admit you called it. Interestingly enough, the comic series will have a Starswirl story in it next issue, so maybe you'll be right on the money. (Doubtful, but possible)

[Grumpy Enchantress 587]

The thing is, even headcanon needs to have some basis from the show. And "both have robes and wizard hats" is simply not enough evidence that she is his descendant.

But they're the only ones who do wear it and it gives an explanation to why Trixie feels the need to be so great and powerful.

 

Still, if you really want to believe that, go right ahead. It's just not convincing to me. If it does turn out to be the case, though, I'll be the first to admit you called it. Interestingly enough, the comic series will have a Starswirl story in it next issue, so maybe you'll be right on the money. (Doubtful, but possible)

I'm not saying it's canon, just asking if it's a fun fan theory that makes enough sense. If that does happen in the comics, it'd be so awesome, though!!! Edited March 11, 2014 by Grumpy Enchantress

[Sunny Fox 5,952]

But they're the only ones who do wear it and it gives an explanation to why Trixie feels the need to be so great and powerful.

 

I'm not saying it's canon, just asking if it's a fun fan theory that makes enough sense. If that does happen in the comics, it'd be so awesome, though!!!

Starswirl was an actual (presumably Court) Mage, so his robe and wizard hat fits. Trixie is a traveling performer, so her robe and wizard hat fits. That doesn't hint at them being related, it's just a result of them both doing things related to magic. And Trixie is "the Great and Powerful" because that fits in with her act. She wouldn't attract crowds by being the "Humble and Apologetic" Trixie all the time.

 

So fun your theory may be,

But it doesn't make sense to me.

[Grumpy Enchantress 587]

Starswirl was an actual (presumably Court) Mage, so his robe and wizard hat fits. Trixie is a traveling performer, so her robe and wizard hat fits. That doesn't hint at them being related, it's just a result of them both doing things related to magic. And Trixie is "the Great and Powerful" because that fits in with her act. She wouldn't attract crowds by being the "Humble and Apologetic" Trixie all the time.

Yeah, but we've never seen any other magicians dress this way.   Also, again, it would explain why Trixie wants to be such a great magician when she isn't very good at magic at all. 

 

So fun your theory may be,

But it doesn't make sense to me.

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Okay, I think it makes sense but I can't rhyme. 

[mars 4,863]

Aah! I /love/ this theory. Or maybe Star Swirl lived so long ago that she is a distant relative. Still, her family feels proud of their heritage and push their children to be strong magic users. So when Trixie can only do show magic, they feel ashamed of her which is why Trixie feels so jealous of Twilight (who her family admires).

 

Would never be canon? Yes. But it's still fun to make fan theories!

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

I would love this to be true. I have my own little character arc in my mind that I think would be the most interesting direction to take the Trixie, and the key to it is that Trixie comes from a family of respected magic-users, something that would push her to try and become a brilliant sorceress in her own right.