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That's why it's better to actually try to make him interesting instead of complaining about how bland he is.

There's also no point in you commenting if you're just gonna parrot the exact same weak argument every Flash-hater has been whining about. That fact is that you simply accept the idea that being bland is all Flash is meant to be, even though he’s basically as much of a blank slate that can be given a personality like as any other BG/supporting character. Again, Bronies have been given taking something small and make something big from it. Unlike haters like you who keep complaining about the exact same thing over and over without trying to see it from a different point of view, at least those of us have the maturity to adapt and compromise instead of just taking everything at face value and complaining about how he shouldn’t exist and how he deserves to be treated like the fandoms cancer. First of all: This forum is focused on making him more likable, genius. Second of all: The same could be said for any other characters in the other movies: Trixie's scenes could've been removed completely since the Dazzlings could've simply trapped the Rainbooms themselves. The Shadowbolts barely had any interaction with their "counterparts" despite all the hype and could've been switched out with other humanized rival/enemeis from the show. Filthy Rich's villany made no sense, he could've been replaced with Glademane, Svengallop,or even his wife Spoiled Rich and it would've made more sense. Timber Spruce gets a buttload of screentime together with Twilight yet he never actually "connects" with anything going on with her. He's mostly there to be Human Twilight's love interest and a red herring for Sunset, he doesn't play any part in in Twilight's issues with Midnight Sparkle and accomplishes little to nothing against Gaea Everfree. So don''t single Flash out for being "useless " when there are plenty of characters in the movies and the series that have that fault. Flash DOES have personality that can be used, and he DOES have a few character traits and flaws, and those CAN be used to give hr more depth as a character, even if it’s only a little, the little can go a long way. And I’ll say it again, we give him trait by looking through ALL scenarios and possibilities, not just the ones we WANT to. BTW, if he’s "worthless" then why are you wasting your time why even waste your breath hating on the character when you could be hating on a character who actually deserves it? At least characters like Glademsne, Blueblood, Spoiled Rich, Garble, and Svengallop did something to WARRANT the fandom’s hatred. Flash? He exists. And I'm not calling people that hate Flash "lazy hypocrites", I'm calling their reasons for hating him are lazy and hypovritical

Actually he does, aside from a few facts I put up in the first place, he does have certain unexplored aspects that can be properly utilized: An ordinary guy, surrounded by extraordinary people, stuck in an impossible situation, and having to work his way up from the bottom. Now THAT is something that me and a lot of people could get behind instead of what every other Flash-hater proposes, which is nothing but a mean spirited excuse to make fun of Flash and ridicule him, no matter the justifications they give. The 100th episode says otherwise. Not to mention appearances are deceiving. It's the inside that counts. Sure, he looks cool, acts nice and plays music. But what else? We've already seen some of that "perfect" layer peeled off and he's clearly not Mr Perfect. He has flaws and quirks that makes him likeable. The problem is that some people don't want him to be made better, that complain that he's too bland because it's easier to do, they complain about the problem but won't offer any solutions outside to "remove him from the series forever". Why? Because making him interesting takes effort, effort that they don't want to put into Flash because it's much easier to hate him and treat him like dirt then to make him likable. Flash-haters only care about problems. Flash-Supporters try to provide solutions. Not all of them, pretty much each fact I brought up was taken directly from the movies themselves, the only ones that are in head-canon territory are the Sunset guitar, Police Officer & little brother ideas. It may not be much, but we’ve done a lot more with much less. The problem is that people like you can’t be bothered to acknowledge it because it’s easier just to hate him and use the same old "he’s bland" excuse. In that case then it's a matter of adding to what we have. For example, the royal Guard/Police Officer idea I brought up. Going into depth on why human Flash might become a Police Officer is one of many good ways to start fleshing out the character properly. However Flash-haters are so focused on him being "standard high school love interest" and hating him for that instead of regarding how one could salvage him, and won't even say "This is how to make Flash a better character". And the thing is? I know other writers that have done more with him in spite of what little we have, and they don't change his "nice guy" nature to do it, they run with it: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/348490/1/maybe/maybe-not http://www.fimfiction.net/story/288283/do-i-matter http://www.fimfiction.net/story/306359/1/the-shields-we-share/agents-of-the-shield http://www.fimfiction.net/story/201993/1/but-thats-my-big-brother/ready-aim-freeze http://www.fimfiction.net/story/220322/1/i-just-wanted-to-say-im-sorry/i-just-wanted-to-say-im-sorry (I suggest you check more of Jay-the-Brony’s work. He does a good job with giving Flash more characterization even when he's not the main focus of one of the stories.) http://www.fimfiction.net/story/240074/1/why-dont-they-like-him/why-dont-they-like-him http://www.fimfiction.net/story/330315/a-sibling-moment https://www.fimfiction.net/story/318514/1/words-of-comfort/words-of-comfort https://www.fimfiction.net/story/326108/1/a-rainy-day/a-rainy-day https://www.fimfiction.net/story/356700/how-to-disappear-completely No, here's the perfect example of Female Flash: Vinyl Scratch.. Has no character aside from being a mute DJ. Has close connections with one of the mane cast. Has a cool car that can also transform. Pretty much almost the same aspects that Flash has, yet everyone love her.

Warm up to him? You're joking right? Timber just he sees Twilight, he starts putting the moves on her, and then suddenly she's into him and they look ready to suck-face in seconds. Flash at the very least get something to earn Twilight's affection at first, sure it was a minor thing, but he did something before said spark happened and they started giving each other the "I want you so badly" eyes. Not to mention the fact that they're little romance either comes up out of no where or didn't really get put to use. As I've said before, if Flash and Twi's romance is underdeveloped, then Timber and Sci-Twi were an example of moving too fast.

It can only really be apathy if you knowledge both of their good aspects, which you barely have up until now. As I've said, Flash at the very least get something to earn Twilight's affection first, he actually did something before Twilight really started showing more interest in him. Twilight's attraction to him was somewhat superficial at first, but it was more a of an "interested yet uncertain" kind of way. For Sci-Twi? It was all of two second of flirting and they instantly started giving each other the "I want you so badly" eyes were ready to suck-face right of the bat. If Flash and Twi's romance is underdeveloped, then Timber and Sci-Twi were an example of moving too fast. While I'll agree that Timber got more effort put into him, as I've shown in the link above Flash has his own aspects that can be built on, and if that's not enough then now many character flaws does Timber have that you can point out? And as I said in the link above, Flash was far from a joke, especially when we see him slowly acknowledge he has to let Twilight go, and his attempt to at least patch things up Sunset shows more maturity to his character, something that was built up over the course of these movies.

And Flash has his own brand of personality that everyone seems to ignore, it just needs to be explored more. https://mlpforums.com/topic/160924-interesting-flash-facts-and-rants-on-flash-hate/

You've got it completely backwards. So the guy who clumsily flirts with a girl within the span of a few seconds is somehow okay and yet you'll say he's underutilized and underdevelope, yet despite the fact that Flash shares the same problem apparently "anything is better than him"? You do realize how hypocritical that sounds right?

Gonna have to disagree with that. The problem is that the flirting comes completely out of nowhere from Timber. He's there, he sees Twilight, he just starts putting the moves on her, and then suddenly she's into him. Flash at the very least get something to earn Twilight's affection at first, sure it was a minor thing, but he did something before said spark happened and they started giving each other the "I want you so badly" eyes. Not to mention the fact that they're little romance didn't really get put to use. I wouldn't have minded as much as it actually contributed to one of the major arcs, mainly the Midnight Sparkle issue since it looked like he was going to be one of the few people who could get through to her in the end, but that doesn't even come into play near the final part of the movie. It really speaks volumes when your romantic subplot is supposed to be a big deal and yet Spike the Dog manages to outdo it in plot relevance. If Flash is an example of too little backstory and not much to do with him, then Timber is the exact opposite, too much backstory and absolutely nothing done with it. Him wanting to leave the camp and head to the city? Never brought up after it's mentioned. Him covering for his sister? Done only so Sunset's got a red herring to chase around. Sorry, but I'll go with Flash. He's at least been built up more and has a few more aspects to be explored, not to mention his history with Sunset. Timber is limited to Camp Everfree at the moment and really has no reason to be involved with the humane cast barring visiting Sci-Twi.

No, just pointing out the fact that Flash has just as if not more potential than Timber.

I'm just gonna leave this here: https://mlpforums.com/topic/160924-interesting-flash-facts-and-rants-on-flash-hate/ You were saying?

By that logic, Pinkie and RD should be her royal concubines right now.

Here's the thing, Flash wasn't completely attracted to her until later in the movie, and he actually DID SOMETHING to earn Twilight's trust. Timber just clumsily flirted with her and suddenly they were giving each other "I want you" eyes.

Flash Sentry: Can emit ultrasonic sound blasts from certain parts of his body, and channel vibrations to enhance them. Can also create generate ultrasonic sound waves through dance movements and can focus them into hypnotic beats that can stun the enemy or force them to helplessly dance along with him. Derpy Hooves: She operates on cartoon logic and can do just about anything that should otherwise be impossible. Bad luck tends to affect her and those around her, no matter how impossible the scenario may seem.

Indeed, some are calling Skystar "Good Queen Chrysalis"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlAvd86zIVU Skip to 19:23 for some Flash info!

I personally think they might've gotten pretty close and the break up and actually did have an emotional impact on the both of them. It's openly stated that Sunset it hadn't done anything to seek vengeance on Flash the first movie, maybe there was a bit of a lingering guilt that preventing her from doing so? Not to mention the fact that when she says she was only using him she seemed little uncertain… Either she was ashamed that she did or regret that she never took the relationship seriously… Then there is the fourth movie which shows her actually comforting him over his issues of there being two versions of Twilight, granted she took the Toughlove approach that she did show some concern for how he felt. not to mention she was willing to confide in him over her conflict with feelings towards Timber, showing that she at least trusts him enough to share that kind of info. Plus Flash himself states that she can tell when something is bothering her, so it's easy to say that they were close enough to be able to "read" each other during their relationship. You'd be surprised: https://mlpforums.com/topic/160924-interesting-flash-facts-and-rants-on-flash-hate/

My friend... I like the cut of your jib!

With three all-new specials in 2017, I was thinking about what to expect from them.... or rather what I'd like to see in these specials. 1: The Return of the Dazzlings We never see them again after the Battle of the bands, what happened to them? Where did they go? How did they survive without any magic? Are they plotting their revenge on the Rainbooms? Next to Tirek and Sombra these two were my favorite villains and I'd love to finally see more of them. 2: Character Development for Flash Sentry Legend of Everfree gave him a little more development and hinted at him getting back together with Sunset. I would like to see him interact with more of the cast, get some more depth to his personality, maybe even get some insight on exactly what happened between him and Sunset that caused them to break up. This guy already gets too much unjustified hatred from the fandom and I hope that might change with some more development for the guy. 3: More Areas Outside of Canterlot High Aside from Legend of Everfree, the only areas outside the school we ever see are Sugarcube Corner, Rarity's Boutique, and Pinkie's home (and a Carnival if we count the "Perfect Day For Fun" music vid). I'd like to see a lot more places and not be restricted to just the school. 4: Possible New Villains Since the Dazzlings we haven't gotten that many villains with overall agendas, I mean Midnight was brought about through Cinch's manipulations (and she only wanted to use it for minuscule goals), and Gaea Everfree was more of a "good person doing all the wrong things" kind of girl. I'd like to see more villains who'd use the magic leaking into the world for more drastic and nefarious purposes. Basically kind of like Cinch but a more dangerous threat to the Humane Seven. 5: More Interactions with Equestria I know it's a long-shot, but with more magic leaking into the world I really want to see some back-and-fourth interaction between the humane world and Equestria. Maybe have some threats make their way over to the humane world, forcing the mane seven to cross-over and help Sunset and friends out? or have the humane seven end up in Equestria for more interesting adventures! And those are my thoughts. If you guys have any ideas to add peas don't hesitate to do so!

That's not a fair assumption, if they were really making fun of him they wouldn't have taken the time to give him a bit of development in the form of moving on from Twilight, even if it was a little. Flash isn't a bad character, he just hasn't gotten more time to develop, so stop talking as though what you say about him is final, becuase newsflash, there are people that ACTUALLY LIKE HIM. That argument is nothing short of biased and hypocritical, Flash CAN be made interesting in the same way every other BG/supporting character has been on this show. So either provide a more LEGIT argument other than "he's so generic" or don't complain at all.

That "no personality" argument is BS, the problem is that people like you just want to use that as an excuse to hate him more. Also tell me, exactly what impact did he have on the plot aside from being an obvious red herring for Sunset and a simple safety blanket for Twilight? Nothing. He had absolutely no involvement in her issues with Midnight Sparkle and accomplished absolutely nothing against Gaea Everfree. Say what you want about flash, at least he contributed something even if it was minuscule. So ironically enough the "you could take him out of the story and nothing would change" argument that everyone likes to use on Flash can be applied to him as well. So now, he's not better than him, if anything he's on the same level. If anything not to mention the fact that his scenes of Twilight pretty much came off as forced on several occasions. At least Flash waited until the second movie to try and score a kiss, here they were ready to suck face right off the bat. No it's not, either provide a LEGIT argument or don't comment at all.

Twilight Sparkle, Rarity and Fluttershy: Straight Pinkie Pie, Applejack, and Rainbow Dash: Bisexua

ZephyrDash: UGH... RariBlood: Pretty sure she'd sooner bash his head in with her sewing machine.

My personal Straight Ships are: Twilight X Human Flash (Sci-Twi gets Timber) RD X Soarin Fluttershy X Bulk Biceps Applejack X Troubleshoes Rarity X Spike Pinkie Pie X Cheese

At least she waited until the second movie, Timber and Sci-Twi were ready to suck face right off the bat. The argument that he's too bland is nothing but a hypocritical argument for people too lazy to just give him a personality. Seriously, if you believe that false fact, well here's my retort.

No one likes biased hypocritical hatred.