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I’m finding some really good retro game tracks. Found one on the Amiga 500. Known as Elvira II: The Jaws of Cerberus. Soundtrack though limiting in quantity, make up for their quality.
Personal favorite of mine is Drugged, Runaway, and Hideaway.
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Are you a fan of the old Nintendo SNES games? Donkey Kong's a great example of a SNES franchise that aged well, except perhaps DKC3. David Wise is a legend in gaming so much so that in Donkey Kong Country Returns ages later, they basically reused many of the old classics from Donkey Kong Country. Here's one a classic, Life in the Mines:
Either way, it's good to know someone who appreciates old school game music and themes.
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Yeah I do occasionally listen to Super Nintendo tracks from time to time. David Wise does live up to his last name because some of the instrument samples on Super Nintendo are just awful. Most notably is the French Horn being the absolute worst instrument sample IMO that only Final Fantasy II (aka IV) and Final Fantasy III (aka VI) makes good use of that particular instrument sample.
Personally I would much rather prefer Sega Genesis with its FM Synthesizer. To me there’s so much untapped potential out of the FM Synthesizer since there are no established instrument samples for it compared to The Super Nintendo’s soundchip. Instead the instrument samples have to be made from scratch on top of making music out of that which gives the FM Synthesizer more potential to create unique music. Of course you get the typical Banjo Guitar Twang that’s typical in most Sega Genesis games which is just as bad as the French Horn from Super Nintendo.
I usually take more interest in games that come out of obscure consoles and PCs mostly. Which in return makes the games obscure by nature.
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Ok I did some mental recovery techniques to get my sanity under control for the time being. I see. Well I wasn't intending to come across as someone who wanted to change their minds, but more so elaborate my points again for why they are deeming it irrelevant to the discussion exactly because I don't really understand where they're coming from. I'm not the kind of person that would want to change people's way of thinking. That's not who I am and not what I want to be. What I take issue with is, If they don't want to come across 'tolerant' with my posts and willing to take offense to shit all over my posts then that's A.O.K when Debating in general? Interesting. Never thought of it that way before. Though I don't agree with the line of reasoning they're going with I did acknowledge some of their points within the post that was meaningful for me to understand where they're coming from. Was it not good enough for them? Then it stops being a Debate as a form of Discussion anymore and more of a Debate as a form of Rhetoric at that point. Well I will and did admit at one point in making my post in my past Debates that I do come across as an arrogant piece of shit. But, I hate that self within me so much so that I'm desperately meditating beyond my limits (physical, mental, spiritual, and psychological) trying to conquer my arrogance to the point where I am nothing. I will not deny that I might be blind on one eye while I can see fine on the other. But, I make sure I do my best to understand their points. Guess I have a long way to go to fully eradicate the arrogance within me 100% and obtain the other eye. Cause all Human Beings possess arrogance. I did learn a lot from my opposers though I will admit that.
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Well I want to thank you. I appreciate your honesty with where you're coming with the rest of your points. The key points that I highlighted out in bold however, while a fair point, is one of those 'Grey Area' Issues indeed and seems like nothing can be done about it unless there was a mod willing to observe the Grey Area effectively. Because at the end of the day, what I've experienced towards my adversaries was a one big giant loophole they're exploiting when Debating with me in the long run. Clever and Devious. I'm not really as smart as I thought compared to my opposers. Just read this fascinating article after you made your post, https://lifehacker.com/bending-the-rules-when-are-loopholes-evil-1648397509 If this is how things are truly going down at Debate Pit, then I might as well not even bother. No matter how formal I make my arguments, how direct I come across when debating, and how thought-provoking I make my points without coming across disrespectful at all in order to make a meaningful discussion, none of it ultimately matters. Because of this loophole to be a 'dickhead' indirectly to the point that anyone can exercise their right to be a passive aggressive provoker without making it come across as such. That's frightening. Well just like smoking I'm going to start quitting making any more future posts on Debate Symposium from this point on and simply not even bother. Because its ultimately meaningless thanks to this loophole Debaters can cheekily exploit. Why be an insulting asshat directly, when you can do so indirectly without making it seem like as such? Holy Shit. My mind's going off the deep end that I never thought it would go. I wonder if I did it too. Did I? Yes? No? Maybe? IDK. Excuse me if you will, I'm just gonna have a mental breakdown. But I'm done. K thanks bye.
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It's kinda funny, poetic, and bizarre on my end. That I would choose and consider the thought of Suffering as the lesser of evil than Death outright, while I believe that I have no reason to fear Death due to my religious upbringing. However, I respect and treat my adversaries who are NOT religious as my equal who some of them I encountered both IRL and Online that maintain their stance that they would much rather Suffer (as long as its temporary and not permanent) from the hands of an individual than their Life taken away by them succumbing to Death.
So a moral quandary arises. Which is the worst of two evils you can commit to any living creature: Making them Suffer or Taking their Life away entirely?
Here's an interesting debate from Quora that talks about if Death is worse or Suffering is,
https://www.quora.com/Which-is-worse-death-or-suffering
And here's a Christian blogspot when does Suffering become worse than Death which while not relevant is interesting nonetheless,
https://pastoralmeanderings.blogspot.com/2017/01/when-does-suffering-become-worse-than.html
However, I'm being for real here that taking away someone's Life will always be the worst decision a person can ever make and IMO the last decision I ever want to make. However, I’ve come to realize FINALLY from what my adversaries were implying for why they perceive Suffering to be worse than Death. Because there exists Permanent Suffering which I will argue that is much worse than Giving Death so if I were given the choice to do Permanent Suffering or Giving Death I would choose to Give Death. But Temporary Suffering is not that bad compared to Giving Death. So an option can be exercised for Humanity whether Suffering should be Definite or Indefinite.
So basically,
Temporary Suffering < Giving Death < Permanent Suffering.
Under a realism standpoint based on utilitarianism I would unquestionably choose to Suffer (as long as its temporary) from someone's hands because while I don't fear Dying from someone's hands or even the thought that I should have any reason to fear Death, I fear how I will be judged by the God of Abraham whom I worship currently speaking. So I want to live longer in order to struggle more with my Life in hopes of pleasing The God of Abraham. I'm not perfect. I'm a sinner in the eyes of The God of Abraham. I made mistakes in my Life and I hope to rectify most of them as long as I live. I know I made many enemies (both IRL and Online). And I know I will NEVER be forgiven from my enemies. But I never intend to wrong them and do my best to understand where they're coming from. It's only when they start to wrong me that I take relentless action to seek and bring them to Justice. So I'll seek refuge from The God of Abraham in hopes that He forgives me more so than my enemies will NEVER dream of. Cause at the end of the day, I don't expect my adversaries to forgive me. It's their choice ultimately. They don't have to. Like how they don't have to tolerate where I'm coming from. This is my biggest lesson for the day. Thank you my adversaries.
I know I went off on a weird tangent, but ultimately what I stand by is that it doesn't matter if it's an animal, insect, or a human. All living creatures have a right to live their life to their fullest. I would not choose Suffering nor Death towards any living creature. But, if somebody pointed a gun at me from behind to choose the two: I don't want to do it, but I'll make you Suffer instead of Killing you outright.
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What is your view on Walt Disney Movies?
ZethaPonderer replied to Coffee's topic in Media Discussion
Walt Disney was a visionary and a great artist. He may have his flaws, but he never lets his flaws blind his vision in making memorable classics. Taking stories that were in the public domain and Disney-fying them. Walt Disney Animations is what gave birth and influence to the Anime Industry in Japan. Fantasia is beautiful, along with Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs, and Pinnochio. The Disney shorts involving Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and Goofy were no slouches either although some of them came across a bit too propagandistic and dated which is to be expected since Warner Bros. were no different back then. Their timeless humor does hold up though alongside Tom & Jerry. The animations of these old animated films hold up even to this day. I will always have respect for Hand Drawn Animations far more so than Flash. I know you can do a similar process in Flash where you can animate similarly to Hand Drawn. However, nothing beats the amount of time, effort, struggle, and patience of drawing that piece of animation over and over till it looks like eye candy. Walt Disney IMO would be ashamed for what his company has become. -
I see. I guess that's fair since most of people would want to keep their arguments short and sweet which results in them being informal in the long run in order for it to be easily digestible for viewers unlike a formal argument which requires a bit more to digest. For the record I mostly come across naive when it comes to debating with users around here in the grand scheme of things. However, what you've wrote as your general rule is what I've come to observe so far in my experience with Debate Pit, but on a more grey area issue. While I understand most users are not trying to come across as an insulting asshat, what I take issue with is how they don't need to come across as an insulting asshat in their posts directly. Instead they can indirectly come across as an insulting asshat by being passive aggressive, backhanded provokers within their posts. Let me give an example that would demonstrate my point, I make a point that I believe Suffering is not a good excuse IMO because it is a part of Life and anyone who makes an argument that "This So-and-So will suffer" as a logical argument comes across as an emotional response whenever someone makes a post about something that involves Suffering towards something or someone and doesn't necessarily mean that this argument is logical in anyway. Here's a rebuttal from one of my opposers, How does this help me understand this person's argument in question? If anything he comes across as a passive aggressive, backhanded, provoking person misconstruing the point of what I originally intended about my argument towards Suffering. Like I said it's a grey area issue here where on one hand maybe that's not what I perceive as such since he's just a making a point. However it doesn't change the fact that my opposer is currently going on an emotional tangent where an argument could be made that he's implicitly coming across as an 'insulting asshat' or 'being a dick' which is unacceptable. Not only was this example of mine misconstrued, but from my experiences there are certain topics where these posts unfortunately come across as such. If this grey area issue is acceptable behavior in Debate Pit then I believe the time is right to create a new Area within the EverFree Forest Forum. This new area within the EverFree Forest Forum shall be known as "The Rhetoric Grounds of Tartarus" where people don't have to respect your opinions, understand where you're coming from, and have a meaningful discussion unlike Debate Pit. Instead you get to crush opposing ideas, questions, opinions, and facts people make at any means necessary. Committing Logical Fallacies in the highest order? Check. Insulting your opponents left and right? Check. Defecating all over their arguments to make it completely irrelevant without explaining why it's irrelevant? Check. Ridiculing your opponents forever even if they die? Check. That or what @Twiggy said and get a Mod for DS lol. Well I understand what you mean, but from my experience while some of my opponents are not coming across as 'dickheads' directly, they are indirectly coming across as passive aggressive, backhanded, provoking, shit stirrers which is another form of being a 'dickhead' though indirectly of course. You can look all over my post with the example to see my point. Other than that I agree and understand where you're coming from. Perhaps my mind can go off the literal route where if I practice and preach hard enough than it becomes secondary in nature to me and anybody who opposes what I practice and preach accordingly in wherever I am, it comes across as if they're breaking DA RULZ when really Practicing and Preaching doesn't necessarily have to correlate with Following the Rules.
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Every now and then I find a select few topics in Debate Pit that piqued my curiosity and willing to chime in to discuss that which would be relevant to the topic at hand. I discuss it by explaining that which hasn't been brought up in the discussion. So far my experiences with Debate Pit has been pretty modest. However, I have come across such Debaters whom I believe don't do a good job debating with me at hand and what I personally believe violates the rules and etiquette that are mandatory when being a Debater in Debate Pit. One of the most basic rules and etiquettes I believe some of my Debaters violate are the following according to the Debate Symposium Rules & Handbook, Now the reason why I highlighted out these specific three points is because some of the Debaters who wish to Debate with me come across as such whenever they're debating with me. I could be asking a simple question that would be relevant within Debate Pit and apparently these Debaters who I have a problem with wish to take offense with everything I've said to support the relevancy of my question that would be meaningful. Such Debaters I have a problem with intend to cherry pick and misconstrue my posts to fit under their narrative. I will provide examples and proofs of how I debate with my opposers and how my opposers debate with me through a basic Logical Ground where Debater A is Myself while Debater B is My Opposer. This is Quote 1, I witness some Debaters from my experience that "quote mine" to the extreme in order to misconstrue my post entirely (AKA Straw Manning) which is honestly unacceptable not just for myself to understand their points, but for themselves, and for the Debate Pit entirely. The way how I usually Debate as Debater A with my Debaters as Debater B is the following under Quote 2 below, I want to answer a poignant question. Which Debate as I put them all in quotes seems acceptable at face value to be a more meaningful and thought-provoking discussion? Quote 1 or Quote 2? I understand the way how I quote my Debaters at face value might not seem all that different since if I'm willing to bold/underline certain statements while at the same time quoting the whole post of my opposer's post then it is no different from my opposer quote mining specific points within my post. However, there's a huge distinction that separates between me and my opposer with the way how I quote and the way how my opposer quotes. At least with my method, I'm willing to explain either their points are fair. If not, then I explain how their un-highlighted points are irrelevant explicitly and conclude that the un-highlighted points does not add up to the discussion in relation to their highlighted statements that I deem worthy. Which is why I quote the whole post entirely in order to understand the big picture (highlighted statements) and the little details (un-highlighted statements) on top of that throughout their post in order to come to a more reasonable conclusion of their post. Whereas my Opposer's method "quote-mining" comes across as if they don't care what I've said throughout my post entirely and they're simply misconstruing my post entirely (AKA Straw Manning) to fit under their narrative in order to highlight out how irrelevant my post is while ignoring the little details to explain their points in an explicit manner for why my post is irrelevant to begin with. What they're doing is not Debating anymore IMHO, but simply finding out flaws within that person's argument, and only focus on the flaws of that person's argument to undermine the whole point of his post entirely which is unacceptable. This is a shallow, narrow-minded and biased perspective of how anyone in their right mind should ever debate with another person. I will leave behind these forms of Logical Fallacies that my opposers have committed against me so they can look back at most of their posts and think twice about making their future posts in the future. It's not only helpful for them, but for myself and for others as well, https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/65/Cherry-Picking https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/169/Strawman-Fallacy https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/51/Argument-from-Fallacy I know that I'm not a perfect individual as well, but I do my best to understand what I don't understand. I may have committed a violation of at least one rule within the Debate Pit Rules & Handbook which is obsessively making the same points over and over again. However, in my defense I don't understand my opposers's points and I re-iterate my points again to highlight out why my opposers are ignoring them to help me understand. My violation is nothing compared to the numerable violations that my opposers have committed against me.
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general Phrases That Don't ACTUALLY Make Any Sense/Aren't Helpful
ZethaPonderer replied to a topic in General Discussion
"Most of what you said is irrelevant to the discussion. Therefore the rest of everything you said so far is irrelevant throughout this discussion." How is most of what I said deemed irrelevant to the discussion? Can you explain and provide points on your end for how most of my points are irrelevant to the discussion? You won't explain? You're just gonna leave me hanging here? So basically your point of deeming most of what I said being irrelevant is by you making an argument from fallacy (argumentum ad logicum) against me. Or how I'd like to personally call it The Irrelevant Fallacy where a person claims that a point you make is irrelevant to the discussion, but doesn't go on the details at all to help the person understand why is it irrelevant. How is this helpful? Typical shitshow in debates. -
Followers are more of the norm when dealing with online social forums. But a Friend is something more meaningful than a Follower. A Follower doesn’t necessarily have to be your friend, while a Friend always follow you no matter how bad things get cause they have so much in common. But other than that I have nothing against people who wanna follow me though I really could care less about this “Follow The Person” system cause it’ll breed a sense of desire for that person being Followed to become arrogant. In my case, I’m better off making as many enemies as inhumanly possible cause it’ll give me the motivation to keep going with my Life. It’ll aspire me to become better, stronger, and smarter than my enemies. All for the sake of achieving my own independence and survival.
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I’m grateful and glad the more I live my Life. Why? Cause I’m making a lot of people around here who hate me for who I am and why I ponder to the point of pure zealotry. Why? Cause it’ll give me the motivation to get good and be a better person compared to my adversaries.
I made many enemies not only online, but IRL as well. I’ve been, experienced, and witnessed such people who are willing to hate me with the intent of killing me outright. Scary I know, but that’s reality for me since I just want to to come across as an understandable and understanding individual.
However, don’t take it as if I don’t have anything against people who wanna be cool and friendly with me. As I intend to be cool and friendly with them too and I mostly come across as such IRL who speaks my mind and say as a straightshooter. Somehow my presence alone with my personality IRL attracts mean-spirited, cynical, bigoted and misanthropic people to shit all over me.
Respect? What’s that? Sounds as old and archaic as Chivalry.
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@JonasDarkmane See that’s the beauty behind people you don’t know for sure you’re dealing with online and IRL. While I will admit that my reasoning throughout this post comes across not only overreacting, but paranoid as well there’s a reason for that. You remember the last time we talked about me being a Shia Muslim? The kind of Muslim that are in a minority in the grand scheme of reality.
People who are in the minority are in the minority for a reason. Because people like us are in grave danger of being ostracized, humiliated, bullied, ridiculed, and even worse. Killed for what we speak and stand for. Look it up. You’ll soon find out how horrific and brutal people like us get killed on a daily basis *cough* Saudi Arabia *cough* just for speaking our minds.
I will also admit that I’m in a psychiatric hospital and seeking therapy to overcome my mental instabilities. So far my counselor and psychiatrist tells me that I’m making my way to a good recovery. Both physically and mentally. I wonder if my adversaries are?
I just want people to tolerate my presence and who I am even if they disagree with me because unlike them I don’t intend to disrespect anyone who has a different opinion than me and do my best to understand and acknowledge their points. Do my adversaries (be they hidden or open) do?
Again you can make your point that I need to draw a line when it comes to Real Life and Online, but Online is just as much of a part of Real Life as Real Life gets. Online is Virtual Reality while Real Life is Real Reality. However, both are intertwined to me IMO and both are necessary to understand Reality as a whole. People can hire a Hitman to assassinate people in real life with the Internet. People can hate online and in real life. People can cyberbully online which will inevitably translate to bullying that individual in Real Life thanks to the Internet. You see how intertwined both The Internet and Real Life actually are?
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Oh, I know about the rift between Sunni Islam and Shia Islam and how truly brutal it is that is no laughing matter. As for religious marginalization, know about that as well, speaking as a Norse Heathen living in a Christian occupied country.
As for your adversaries tolerating you, that is for them to decide. It can be rather difficult if other peoples opinions on you matters greatly to you. It gets even more difficult when its strangers opinions on you that you start caring about, or even possible opinions that strangers may hold. Perhaps some things are best left to be unknown and unexplored. Maybe not interesting topics, but rather other peoples thoughts, especially personal ones.
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Hmm... interesting point there @JonasDarkmane. One that I never thought of. Strangers may be strangers, but they are people too with hopes and dreams. Strangers reveal a part of their personality when they are interacting with you first time (both Online and IRL) even if they don’t think they are and think they’re being clever disguising their personality as they’re anonymous or some shit. I don’t think ALL Strangers are bad people. Some of them do come across as nice individuals. Take yourself for an example
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. It all depends on consistency in terms of how they speak, what are their manners when they speak, and how they’re willing to come across as such to other people.
But I understand what you mean. Human Nature is fickle and unpredictable. Expect the unexpected and all that. While I may not want to think or even tolerate the idea that Humanity has developed misanthropic ideals, I definitely agree with you there that I should expect the unexpected just as much.
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Have you ever seen the user above you on this site?
ZethaPonderer replied to Bethielikesponies's topic in Forum Games
Seen you. Don’t know you. Rarely to Almost Never interacted but you OK. -
Alex Jones: People willingly get together and love each other, and feel each other, and fk each other, and kill each other, and eat each other. Also, Sandy Hook School Shooting is a conspiracy theory along with the US Government putting chemicals in our waters that turn the friggin’ Frogs Gay.
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news Jeffrey Epstein Arrested for Sex Trafficking Minors
ZethaPonderer replied to Misty Shadow's topic in General Discussion
I think I’m going to be physically sick after reading that NPR article. Sex Trafficking is just as bad as Animal Abuse. May Jeffrey Epstein be cursed for life and rot in the deepest pits in hell forever. -
Y’know I’m getting pretty sick and tired watching all these Cute Animal Videos Online and having to see such comments that reeks of pure Misanthropy.
For those of you who don’t know what is Misanthropy well here’s a definition and a video,
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/misanthrope
IMHO, I’m convinced Misanthropy is a social and mental illness the more people express themselves like this not only online, but in real life as well. Let’s be for real here. It is wrong to be a misogynist and it is wrong to be a misandrist. So of course it is just as wrong to be a misanthrope altogether. It is ethically wrong and a major threat for Humanity to evolve and grow. Misanthropy to me is a Satanist ideology. Satan hates Humans with a fiery passion. Therefore any Human that hates Humans along with the rest of Humanity because ALL ARE EVIL and NEVER TO BE TRUSTED are essentially practicing and preaching what Satan abides by to fulfill his goal in proving The Abrahamic God being 100% wrong for creating Humans in the first place.
I express my bias 100% and I stand by it till death. Not all Human Beings are Evil creatures worse than The Devil. Most of us are good natured creatures who just want to fulfill the path of righteousness and live up to virtues that’ll contribute everything in Life to evolve, grow, and be meaningful. I have more respect for Philanthropists than I have for Misanthropists.
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Oh word selector on my iPhone. Plz give me your words of wisdom again but this time me tapping words that appear on the far left, “Is the rest of the Israelites was the day I wanna was a good day I wanna was a good day I wanna was a good day” Awe-inspiring. Repetition is gold. Repetition is key to living a good and successful life in this world. True way for the Israelites to live like this for the sake of Humanity to have a good day. (No joke, the Israelite part for real on my iPhone word selector in quote. lolz)
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Wait I have a reputation? I'm more infamous around these parts.
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Cocks are delicious when deep fried. Colonel Sanders love em thick and juicy. No shame in eating cocks as long as the procedure is painless. Body tattooing cocks on the other hand is just straight up begging to be punished (daddy?) and male cruelty at its finest. And yes I'm sane as enasinsaneassinine. Fight for the rights of cocks everywhere. They have a right to live just as much as we and if we wanna eat them give them a painless, humane, and respectful death.
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Oh word selectors on my iphone. Plz give me your words of wisdom for today only by tapping at the words that come from the far right, “Has and how about the corn 🌾 I gotta day we have to come home 🏠 night we will go see you later 👋 I love 💗 your way I am at home 🏠 this morning is a little fun but when y’all get here I’ll be back” That is so beautiful. Education is beautiful.
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Kentucky Fried Cock
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“Hi 👋 I just wanna is that I cannot begin to imagine how much fun you are and how about you make sure you get your message about the coming days of your life.” Word selectors again.
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“I don’t know if I wanna was a good day I wanna was a good day I wanna was a good day.” Word selectors on your iPhone keyboard everyone.
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This fantasy is far from final. The worst has yet to come.
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Food Fetish
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I have a rigid body to the point where my body cracks in odd places. My toes. My knees. My fingers and knuckles. My elbows. I’m not that flexible. In fact, my body cracks so much you might as well call me The Cracken. So far, my physical health is in good condition according to my physician despite all the crackiness of my body.
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Senpai. I think I did, however I don’t remember my senpai entirely through memory. If I did, then perhaps me not remembering my senpai entirely must be a traumatic experience so great that my mind has suppressed it. Had many crushes in my life, but did not give in to them since obviously I’ll be crushed and followed the Lone Wolf route ever since. I’m doing OK so far with my decision. Don’t really need a senpai anyway.
