Should there be an episode all about the guys?

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Well, seeing how we already get rather useless episodes that don't really do much in terms of plot or driving the mane 6 forward (I'm looking at you half the CMC episodes). I wouldn't find issue with an episode that was about Big Mac with some other stallions. It would be interesting to see the mane 6 from a perspective other than themselves and their sisters(I'm just counting Scootaorphin as Dash's sister at this point). It could add a interesting perspective on how the mane 6 are viewed by normal everyday ponies in their hometown, and even build up the character of other ponies.

 

But again, I've wanted a background pony episode were we see the interactions with the mane 6 from the viewpoint of the normal townsfolk for awhile now, so I would enjoy one wether or not it was stallion focused.

[Miles 2,514]

Well darn tootin, Jennabun said it 10x better than I did.  

 

Especially THIS:
 

 

If you are a guy who enjoys the show, you should be secure enough in your masculinity to enjoy it for its inherent femininity instead of enjoying it despite its femininity and needing more of a male presence.

 

I'm a guy, and that (what I quoted Jennabun) is exactly my opinion.  I enjoy it for its inherent femininity.  Heck, I gotta take a break from watching shows about cars sometimes, and I'm a gearhead!

[IridscentNionios 1,422]

@,Did i become obnoxious all of a sudden? Is it so bad to start a convo? Geez... 

 

 

I'm a guy, and that (what I quoted Jennabun) is exactly my opinion.  I enjoy it for its inherent femininity.  Heck, I gotta take a break from watching shows about cars sometimes, and I'm a gearhead!

I on the other hand would like an escape from the constant stereotypic belief that shows have to be either male-focused or female-focused and that "We need shows with female casts for feminine empowerment". As for the last one... Please take your feminist philosophies OUT of a children's cartoon. Children don't have the time or mood to get involved in our "Pointless Bickering". 

[Gernia 692]

I don't really think it would turn out all that well, and I'm not sure if the writers would ever do that, so I don't think there should be one even though it does sound interesting to me.

[Miles 2,514]

I on the other hand would like an escape from the constant stereotypic belief that shows have to be either male-focused or female-focused and that "We need shows with female casts for feminine empowerment". As for the last one... Please take your feminist philosophies OUT of a children's cartoon. Children don't have the time or mood to get involved in our "Pointless Bickering". 

 

 

Um... I never once said that shows have to be gender focused.  You are taking things out of context.  I simply mean, literally, it is what it is, ergo, that the show was made to appeal to children, mostly girls, but that it also can (obviously) appeal to men and women of any age.  I watch it because I can relate to the sympathetic warmness, loving and caring, and even witty humor that is in it.

 

Also, I'll have you know that:

One, as a straight male I'm definitely not a feminist...

Two, how exactly would they (kids) get involved in this [which is not pointless bickering, I'll have you know, we are having a calm adult convo about a show we all love]...?

Three, it might surprise you to know that I'm a conservative, yet I still absolutely agree with Jennabun.  

 

As a member a of MLP forums, since of course I assume you are a brony, why are you being the way you are?  Love and tolerate, good fellow.  You shouldn't get irate so quickly.  This is a place for people to voice there opinions in a happy manner, spreading the love, wisdom, affection, and joy of all that is incorporated into the MLP brony fandom.  And if you ever felt offended by something I said, I am sorry about that.  I'm just a blunt person.

 

Let's try and keep this as peaceful as possible, eh? 

[Jennabun 1,579]

I on the other hand would like an escape from the constant stereotypic belief that shows have to be either male-focused or female-focused and that "We need shows with female casts for feminine empowerment". As for the last one... Please take your feminist philosophies OUT of a children's cartoon. Children don't have the time or mood to get involved in our "Pointless Bickering". 

 

 

The thing is it's not inherently a bad thing to have a female-focused show. Little girls need something to look up to (and if little boys enjoy it too, all the better!). Plus, it's not far-fetched to say we need female empowerment in cartoons and kids' shows - these shows (and the media in general) shape little minds like you would not believe. Girls watching MLP can see young women in positive leadership roles, and boys watching MLP are more likely to grow up with an appreciation for femininity instead of growing up to be douchebags who treat women like dirt. Where's the harm?

 

Stop chalking up my logical argumentation to "feminist philosophies" and "pointless bickering" in order to belittle and silence a valid point of view. There's so much value to discussing television shows and the messages they send - if we never critically analyzed the media we consume, our minds would be vulnerable to a lot of toxic crap.

Also, I'll have you know that:

One, as a straight male I'm definitely not a feminist...

Two, how exactly would they (kids) get involved in this [which is not pointless bickering, I'll have you know, we are having a calm adult convo about a show we all love]...?

Three, it might surprise you to know that I'm a conservative, yet I still absolutely agree with Jennabun. 

 

Thanks for thinking outside the box, friend

[websterhamster 203]

Its target audience are little girls. A young girl would probably be thinking 'Where are the Mane Six, where are all the characters I can relate to, why are there all these new characters who had only had a few lines at the most, where is the pink one?'

That's possible; however, remember that each episode includes educational value, and they're meant to be equally appealing to parents as well as young children. Trust me, they'll enjoy an episode about the male cast.

 

No one's suggesting that the Mane Six be done away with in favor of a new male cast, we just would like some more facetime with the guys in the show, that's all. One or two episodes won't detract from the show and would add immense value to it. 

[Sugar Pea 2,683]

 

@,Did i become obnoxious all of a sudden? Is it so bad to start a convo? Geez... 

 

 

I on the other hand would like an escape from the constant stereotypic belief that shows have to be either male-focused or female-focused and that "We need shows with female casts for feminine empowerment". As for the last one... Please take your feminist philosophies OUT of a children's cartoon. Children don't have the time or mood to get involved in our "Pointless Bickering". 

 

I never said you were obnoxious. If you really wanted to start a conversation, perhaps you shouldn't begin one by saying somebody is out of control for thinking how they want to about a show.

Edited June 25, 2014 by Peachie Buttbutton

[OptimisticNeighsayer 479]

 

 

Okay, here's my idea.  Cheese Sandwich comes to Ponyville to plan a surprise Week-Before-Her-Birthday-Because-She'd-Totally-Expect-It-On-Her-Birthday party for Pinkie Pie.  He wants it to be an extra super surprise, so he even keeps it secret from her bestest friends (makes about as much sense as anything else Cheese does).  He enlists Big Mac and Thunderlane to help him, since they are closer to the mane six than he is.  Trenderhoof will come by because he's been meaning to write about Cheese Sandsich's parties, and if he just so happens to be able to dance with Applejack at the party...   All I need is a way to incorporate Flash Sentry and Saorin' and I'll have a complete set.

 

This sounds like the sort of story that doesn't actually need the characters to be male to work.  When you say "an episode all about the guys" I take it that that means that their maleness actually is a relevant factor.

 

To do so I worry would make it excessively controversial as it would probably have to raise feminist issues and may risk portraying men even more negatively than they already are.

[Miles 2,514]

Thanks for thinking outside the box, friend

 

You're most definitely welcome  .

 

It's funny, really, how sometimes conversations with subjects that could seemingly tie one's political stance in a negative way actually does just the opposite - it brings in support so that an issue can have people from a wide range of backgrounds on either side.

 

I actually had a class in college last semester called "How Do You Know: Ethics in Advertising," and I can say that, I sometimes found it difficult to be in agreement with the general consensus at times, as most of the students leaned to the left on the political scale, whereas I leaned right.  Ironically, on this specific issue about MLP and gender, it's not just politics... But it's common sense that needs to be brought into play!  Like I said before, I watch the show LOVE watching MLP because it gives me a break from shows that are stupidly over masculine and/or contain retardedly high amounts of violence and sex.  It's nice to be able to sit down and enjoy a civil, innocent (yet still funny and witty enough for adults), and heart-warming show with characters who I feel connected to.  I mean, seriously, the country ways of Applejack - they're pretty much the same country ways as mine.  She even has my levels of stubbornness (of being able to do things independently unless she otherwise asks for help).  

 

Anyways, I think we'd best not let nioniosbbbb be able to unnerve us so easily.  Maybe he had a bad day, but even if that's not the case, let's just fight fire with water, instead of with fire, if you know what I mean  .

Edited June 25, 2014 by Miles Glidershy

[Forlong 1,726]

I would not support it due to a lack of interest in these characters and the fact that it is unnecessary to the show's progress.

Why?

 

Why would develop existing characters who are not only important to the mane six but also loved by the fandom be a bad thing?

 

Because it works.  Because these characters have been developed from the very beginning, and stealing focus from such strong characters to develop comparably weak and thus far meh (imo) ones...  I don't think it'd be entertaining.  Nor do I imagine it being worth it in the long run.  Besides, us guys have a billion shows where male characters are the focus / the heroes, or what have you.  I like that MLP isn't that.  Just my two bits. xD

Inspiration Manifestation.  First truly great Spike episode.  Last I checked, he had a Y chromosome.

 

Look at any other long runner.  What makes good long runners good was the fact that they were willing to take time to develop the secondary characters and give the fans more reasons to keep watching.  If the show remains all about the mane six, it will get old fast.

 

I-is it wrong that I hardcore ship Trenderhoof and Applejack? .-.

 

I'm kidding.

 

This sounds like the sort of story that doesn't actually need the characters to be male to work.  When you say "an episode all about the guys" I take it that that means that their maleness actually is a relevant factor.

I just presented one idea.  I wasn't thinking a "guys night out" plot.  Just thinking what circumstances could bring these characters together.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,307]

Inspiration Manifestation.  First truly great Spike episode.  Last I checked, he had a Y chromosome.

Though it wasn't in my post you quoted, I mentioned in this topic that I actually like Spike.  He's one of only two male characters in the show I give a genuine horseshoe about.  Though...  He's been in it from the start, as well.  And has seen some degree of development / fleshing-out already.  Spike =/= most of the male characters on the show.  He's better.  And an inextricable part of the Mane 6 "family."  I also stated in an earlier post that I didn't care much for the stallions / colts on the show, specifically.  I'm okay with Spike being in the mix; he's an exception I make.

 

And how did you go about checking Spike's chromosomal make-up lol?  But I kid. xD

Look at any other long runner.  What makes good long runners good was the fact that they were willing to take time to develop the secondary characters and give the fans more reasons to keep watching.  If the show remains all about the mane six, it will get old fast.

I think the Mane 6 are a strong and large enough ensemble cast that they don't paticularly need the help, but that's just how I feel.  Also, the show is as much about the morals and problems faced as it is about the main characters / their respective personalities.  New problems to overcome / enemies / and resulting moral lessons help keep things interesting.  And, though I do see your point (and might totally agree depending on the show), this doesn't even necessarily mean that those secondary characters have to be male.  They could further develop other female characters.  Or create a genderless robot character powered by magic.  Just putting that out there. xD

[Forlong 1,726]

Though it wasn't in my post you quoted, I mentioned in this topic that I actually like Spike.  He's one of only two male characters in the show I give a genuine horseshoe about.  Though...  He's been in it from the start, as well.  And has seen some degree of development / fleshing-out already.  Spike =/= most of the male characters on the show.  He's better.  And an inextricable part of the Mane 6 "family."

I'm going to stop trying to "get" this and move on...

 

 

I think the Mane 6 are a strong and large enough ensemble cast that they don't paticularly need the help, but that's just how I feel.  Also, the show is as much about the morals and problems faced as it is about the main characters / their respective personalities.  New problems to overcome / enemies / and resulting moral lessons help keep things interesting.  And, though I do see your point (and might totally agree depending on the show), this doesn't even necessarily mean that those secondary characters have to be male.  They could further develop other female characters.  Or create a genderless robot character powered by magic.  Just putting that out there. xD

Family Guy has just as big and diverse a main cast and is now the worst kind of trite.  Expanding on the cast is the best thing they can do.  It will give them more options

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,307]

Family Guy has just as big and diverse a main cast and is now the worst kind of trite.  Expanding on the cast is the best thing they can do.  It will give them more options

I'm thinking that Family Guy has far more problems at this point than simply a lack of secondary character development lol.  But reiterating what I said about them being male (which was relevant to the original post): Why should the secondary chars that see further development and inclusion be male?

 

And I didn't really mean anything against Big Mac when I made the "horseshoe" comment; he's just not on my personal, very limited list of male characters I'm gladdest to see make an appearance.  It's merely a matter of personal taste and how I react to this or that character.  I don't even have a thoughtful laundry list of reasons why I like or don't care about some of the characters.

[IridscentNionios 1,422]

 

 

Um... I never once said that shows have to be gender focused.

No you didn't but neither did i say you did.

 

You are taking things out of context.

I simply didn't have the time to quote that other guy who said this. You didn't say it. No i am not talking things out of context... i am simply responding to absurd claims that i have seen countless times beyond this thread in the mlpforums. Sorry if my experience causes me to sometimes become obnoxious on those matters.

 

I simply mean, literally, it is what it is, ergo, that the show was made to appeal to children, mostly girls, but that it also can (obviously) appeal to men and women of any age.  I watch it because I can relate to the sympathetic warmness, loving and caring, and even witty humor that is in it.

If you watch my earlier comments i have said that Hasbro will not introduce or delve upon male characters unless it benefits the story or show-exploration/canon. I just don't want us jumping from one stereotype(male-character filled show) to another stereotype(Female-character filled show).

 

Also, I'll have you know that: One, as a straight male I'm definitely not a feminist... Two, how exactly would they (kids) get involved in this [which is not pointless bickering, I'll have you know, we are having a calm adult convo about a show we all love]...? Three, it might surprise you to know that I'm a conservative, yet I still absolutely agree with Jennabun.

I don't care/mind if you are what you are but honestly if you expect kids 6-10 or whatever Mlp's demographic is to understand complex ideas like that you are gonna have a bad time... It's fine teaching equality and for the most part mlp does it right but the best course to avoiding having such problems is disregarding them as a problem. Like what happened about Scootaloo's wings and Rainbow Dash. Morgan Freeman himself said something like this "If you want to stop racism stop talking about it!" aka stop making different colors, genders, e.t.c. into a problem. That's the thing... because you THINK they are problems this rises.

 

As a member a of MLP forums, since of course I assume you are a brony, why are you being the way you are?  Love and tolerate, good fellow.  You shouldn't get irate so quickly.  This is a place for people to voice there opinions in a happy manner, spreading the love, wisdom, affection, and joy of all that is incorporated into the MLP brony fandom.  And if you ever felt offended by something I said, I am sorry about that.  I'm just a blunt person. Let's try and keep this as peaceful as possible, eh? 

Let me just stop you there... I am willing to tolerate you, love you, interact peacefully with you. I am simply passionate about some of my arguements having seen the bad side of people and the extremism that comes from siding with males-females. I wish for someone to have the GUTS to make a good show without having to make their cast all female or all male. 

In any case i do not hold grudges for any of you and i can proudly say that this is one of the BETTER debates i've had. ((I've participated in now locked threads... "So hardcore" ) However i have met people who support the idea or call shows "Feminist". Like really? Just because we're friendly towards your ideas you are gonna label us familiar to our cause? Do you understand why i am upset about this? Because it's a part of labelling and labelling is part of assumptions and assumption is the mother of all f@*kups. Kids shows should be kids shows... ENTERTAINING. If they can be educating as well so be it but don't involve them into subjects they are not involved themselves. I've heard other crazy ideologies about what the show should do in order to teach people valuable lesson so they can "be more accepting" of certain people. They don't realize that cartoon shows make you aware to some problems... they don't actually solve them.

 

The thing is it's not inherently a bad thing to have a female-focused show.

Never said it was... Also without specifically targetting you i would like to point out how everyone here in the internet jumps at conclusions and assumptions from "not-adequately-worded-text". Yet there is an inherent inability or "scoop" or "cop-out" or however it's called in making shows that have shared gender cast. It's saddening really.

 

Plus, it's not far-fetched to say we need female empowerment in cartoons and kids' shows - these shows (and the media in general) shape little minds like you would not believe. Girls watching MLP can see young women in positive leadership roles, and boys watching MLP are more likely to grow up with an appreciation for femininity instead of growing up to be douchebags who treat women like dirt. Where's the harm?

There isn't... and indeed TV can affect people greatly but if you're letting TV teach you about life when 80% of the shows it has can litterally cause me to have cancer then you're not doing it right. It might seem far fetched but TV is dying... i at least don't watch TV anymore and trust the Internet more to give me what i like. This should be the parent's job... This should be what THEY do. NOT TV. 

 

Stop chalking up my logical argumentation to "feminist philosophies" and "pointless bickering" in order to belittle and silence a valid point of view. There's so much value to discussing television shows and the messages they send - if we never critically analyzed the media we consume, our minds would be vulnerable to a lot of toxic crap.

I am sorry if i am worried about the propagandisation of the media and criticize the way children are laid to such things. I am worried about the labelling of cartoons and entertainment as something they are not. I am not gonna dismiss the good they offer but if you trust for your logical point of view to be transmitted by a commercialized company/show that creates spins off or whatever else just to get toys... you are getting your hopes too high. Well you can still try and continue to do this but know that your arguement is going to be twisted/adapted to fit needs that aren't yours. I am sorry but i am not willing to compromise my ideals for this... Sorry... it's not about your arguement... your arguement is nice and all. I'm just against the way you choose to express your arguement... i am not going to stop it but i still don't think it's the best way to do this.

 

I never said you were obnoxious.

This is just me being passive-aggresive.

 

If you really wanted to start a conversation, perhaps you shouldn't begin one by saying somebody is out of control for thinking how they want to about a show.

Yea yea maybe it wasn't worded well... my bad.

[Sunny Fox 5,961]

Two of my favorite arcs from the comics are the one about Big MacIntosh, and the one about Cadance-Shining Armor. Because they give time to characters that have been somewhat sidelined in the show proper, and happen to be male. (Technically, Cadance and Shining Armor share the comic between them, but it's still more development of SA's character than has ever been done in the show). Is it an absolute necessity? No. Could it make for an entertaining couple of episodes? Most definitely yes. I say, let's have a male episode or two. It won't destroy the show.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

 

Why would develop existing characters who are not only important to the mane six but also loved by the fandom be a bad thing?

Spike has had development and plenty of screen time. The other two major male characters, Big Macintosh and Shining Armor, do not necessarily demand such. All the other male characters had one time episode appearances. There are many other characters closer to the fandom and the major characters in Ponyville that can be expanded on first.

[Jangocoolguy 433]

Episode could be about

 

...The MALE Six!

 

[deadprofile 1,123]

It would be neat, but I doubt it will ever happen. There isn't much "conflict" that could be made due to their lack of characterization in the show.

 

I am more interested in the Two Sisters personally, more or less because it's more of a plausible episode and there is so much they could delve into. Plus, it would fit in with the series...

It would be neat, but I doubt it will ever happen. There isn't much "conflict" that could be made due to their lack of characterization in the show.

 

I am more interested in the Two Sisters personally, more or less because it's more of a plausible episode and there is so much they could delve into. Plus, it would fit in with the series...

[Miles 2,514]

Okay, it seems it was just a lot of misunderstood intentions on both ends.  Sorry 'bout that.

There are two things I do still want to comment on...

 

I don't care/mind if you are what you are but honestly if you expect kids 6-10 or whatever Mlp's demographic is to understand complex ideas like that you are gonna have a bad time... It's fine teaching equality and for the most part mlp does it right but the best course to avoiding having such problems is disregarding them as a problem. Like what happened about Scootaloo's wings and Rainbow Dash. Morgan Freeman himself said something like this "If you want to stop racism stop talking about it!" aka stop making different colors, genders, e.t.c. into a problem. That's the thing... because you THINK they are problems this rises.

 

 

Firstly, I don't expect kids to understand the complexities, etc... So, that was probably just a misunderstanding.
Secondly, I totally agree with you about the equality/gender/race/whatever-have-you issue.  I think the problem only arises when people bring it up, basically like what you said in the above quote.  
HOWEVER... What relevance is this to MLP?  

 

 

Let me just stop you there... I am willing to tolerate you, love you, interact peacefully with you. I am simply passionate about some of my arguements having seen the bad side of people and the extremism that comes from siding with males-females. I wish for someone to have the GUTS to make a good show without having to make their cast all female or all male. 

 

 

MLP is not all female.  

 

Wait, I just want to clear up any other possible misunderstandings you may have about my view.  I'm a simple, traditional country boy.  I watch MLP because it's good, clean, funny, and at the same time brings out the more passionate side of myself via its heart-warming love and tolerance.  However, I do not think the show is utterly feministic.

 

Also, I have a feeling that you and I are more similar than you may think.  Because, this:
 

...people who support the idea or call shows "Feminist". Like really? Just because we're friendly towards your ideas you are gonna label us familiar to our cause? Do you understand why i am upset about this? Because it's a part of labelling and labelling is part of assumptions and assumption is the mother of all f@*kups. Kids shows should be kids shows... ENTERTAINING. If they can be educating as well so be it but don't involve them into subjects they are not involved themselves. I've heard other crazy ideologies about what the show should do in order to teach people valuable lesson so they can "be more accepting" of certain people. They don't realize that cartoon shows make you aware to some problems... they don't actually solve them.

 

 

AND THIS:

 

I am sorry if i am worried about the propagandisation of the media and criticize the way children are laid to such things. I am worried about the labelling of cartoons and entertainment as something they are not. I am not gonna dismiss the good they offer but if you trust for your logical point of view to be transmitted by a commercialized company/show that creates spins off or whatever else just to get toys... you are getting your hopes too high. Well you can still try and continue to do this but know that your arguement is going to be twisted/adapted to fit needs that aren't yours. I am sorry but i am not willing to compromise my ideals for this... Sorry... it's not about your arguement... your arguement is nice and all. I'm just against the way you choose to express your arguement... i am not going to stop it but i still don't think it's the best way to do this.

 

 

Are actually things that I totally agree with.

Now, seemingly a contradiction - how can I agree with you AND Jennabun, when seemingly you are on different sides?

Well, I just think you misunderstand what Jennabun actually means.  

All in all, I'll just say this - TV shows are for entertainment.  MLP... is for entertainment.  However, because of the fact that children (and adults too, really) learn from basically anything they look at, hear, etc., TV shows put ideas into our heads.  I personally see nothing wrong with what MLP could possibly teach kids.  So... I guess my question is, to you of course, nioniosbbbb, what exactly am I missing that you think MLP is doing wrong?  

[IridscentNionios 1,422]

 

 

MLP is not all female.  

It is not but it actually focuses on such things.

 

Wait, I just want to clear up any other possible misunderstandings you may have about my view.  I'm a simple, traditional country boy.  I watch MLP because it's good, clean, funny, and at the same time brings out the more passionate side of myself via its heart-warming love and tolerance.  However, I do not think the show is utterly feministic.

I personally watch it because Queen Chrysalis made me a brony. Plus there are "cute" sections. I mostly am the fandom/fanart guy and less a fan of the actual show i would say. There are certain things i do not like about the show but not so much as to affect my opinion on it. One of them is the all female cast or mostly female cast. 

 

 I personally see nothing wrong with what MLP could possibly teach kids.  So... I guess my question is, to you of course, nioniosbbbb, what exactly am I missing that you think MLP is doing wrong?  

I don't believe its doing something wrong. I believe that it is wrong that you guys might consider that this is the best way to get your good arguements and ideas across. Mlp while entertaining is for Hasbro nothing more than a commercialized product that gives them money. The artists may have varying decrees of freedom and expression but this is only limited by the threshold that Hasbro is willing to give in order for them to have/make money. As soon as Hasbro deems it nesseccary Mlp is going to go down the road of commercialization in gen 3 and everything you know about the creativity of the show is gonna go down the drain. But i am rambling and we are derailing...

So long as they do it well there is no reason for them not to do it and as for those that are against it they are just afraid of change.

[Jeric 46,890]

6-10 year olds can most certainly understand complex real world issues, especially through nuanced allegory.

 

I could spam this thread with 150 years of literary examples to illustrate that

 

30 years if animation if you want apples to apples ... one example was a Hasbro property.

 

Also, the show doesn't need to alter its gender focus.

[IridscentNionios 1,422]

 

 

6-10 year olds can most certainly understand complex real world issues, especially through nuanced allegory.

If friendship doesn't involve itself in those issues it will not present itself in fim. It would be bad for friendship if fim showed actively that it was siding with one gender on that matter.

 

Also, the show doesn't need to alter its gender focus.

It's another thing "not needing" to change its focus and another thing if it would do any good. Why should we stop this if it was good? Most people here don't want to simply because of preferencies. 

[Miles 2,514]

I'm done going back and forth with you, nioniosbbbb.

 

I'm going to make this as straight forward as possible.

 

I don't care about the commercialization, profit making, so on and so forth, that Hasbro does/gets with MLP.  

The show itself puts forth excellent life lessons, traits, morals and values, and should I ever have kids, I'd be happy to let them learn from it.

Lastly, I do not watch it "because it has a mainly female cast" - rather, because it provides a show I can feel emotionally connected to for all the right reasons.

Peace.

[IridscentNionios 1,422]

 

 

Lastly, I do not watch it "because it has a mainly female cast" - rather, because it provides a show I can feel emotionally connected to for all the right reasons.

Never said you were watching it for the female cast.

 

I don't care about the commercialization, profit making, so on and so forth, that Hasbro does/gets with MLP.   The show itself puts forth excellent life lessons, traits, morals and values, and should I ever have kids, I'd be happy to let them learn from it.

I am just telling you the hard truth about why MLP is as is and what it has or can be. If they see it benefits them to have males in the show they will do it. It's not all about the money... but it does give you some freedom of movements knowing you actually have the money to have the freedom do you understand?

I am not upset that it has an all female cast. I am upset because some people just go all whiny mody and say "I don't want males in the show because i like it for the females." That's fine and all but that's just that... your opinion. None should nessecarily abide by it and if you stop liking it just because a few males actually went and did something more than just stand like decoration behind the females then i'm sorry you're just an immature little kid like that video i posted from nostalgia critic.

The problem is that some people don't actually hate males... they just... don't want change. They are actually shallow and hollow people that don't actually have something to express other than seeking to patronize a show according to their tastes. I am sorry if i don't exactly agree on that attitude.