Do some bronies offend the show by not abiding by show aesthetic?

[ShadowPirateX 600]

Ever heard of artistic freedom? Fan-fics don't really affect the actual show. They're called fan-fics for a reason, so I don't see the problem.

Besides, what's the fun in not taking any creative liberties?

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

Well, since the show is not a living sapient being in this realm of existance, you cannot offend it. Because it lacks the capacity to be offended.

 

 

And as for changing the asthetic or maturity of the show, it is a fan work. And fan works are always going to exist.

 

I don't really see an issue with it, as it is the artist exploring other areas of both the shows created universe, and other styles of asthetic that the show itself would never display. Such expression should be encouraged, as it can broaden the fan base (as some may not like the overly simplistic look of the adobe flash tv show) and it allows the artist to express themselves fully.

 

Limiting that would be like limiting the showing of humans to only how we appear in reality. It would stiffle art.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,341]

Well, since the show is not a living sapient being in this realm of existance, you cannot offend it. Because it lacks the capacity to be offended.

 

 

I have to say this. I read the above statement in Maud's voice! It sounds so much like something she would say. Maybe she would add something about rocks at the end though.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

I am often troubled by fans of Friendship is Magic and the mindset in the way they approach the show. What troubles me most is that they don't seem to be able to grasp the aesthetic of the show. Not those that create pony parodies in different genres but those that draw inspiration from the show...it turns out distorted and false looking. The idea of OC's are not bad. They are good, however many people (and some seem to live in nations where MLP is not popular) do not seem to understand what show they are making a character for. If a person designs a character and wants it to fit in to an established fictional universe then why create one that couldn't possibly do so? If people abide by aesthetic then most OC's would have to be gotten rid of. The OC's and various fan fictions violate what the show stands for and collides with the aesthetic in such things as being violent, unfriendly and the over consumption of power. It is as if the people that design these characters don't know what the show is and many are old enough to know better. You don't design a character like Twilight Sparkle to put in a fan fiction of The Walking Dead. You don't put a character that belongs in a violent Japanese Anime in MLP. You just don't. By not avoiding or trying to correct them, are we giving into aesthetic corroding elements in the fandom? Am I wrong? Should the aesthetic remain supreme in the thoughts of all fan works save for parody? What of OC alicorns? What of those that don't seem to "get" the show? Those people that give an OC a dozen cutie marks, those that write Equestria as violent and evil, those that have friends turn on each other for no reason that would make sense in show context. And why are they so defensive when they are called out? Would they be more comfortable creating something based on another show more fitting for their aesthetic interests?

 

By responding, limit yourself to talk on Friendship is Magic as aesthetic may have been different in the past and may change in the future.

I was first introduced to Fim by the fanfic Cupcakes, which is a poster child of twisted mlp fanfiction that subverts the shows aesthetic. If it were not for that I would not of gave the show a chance at all years later. I understood that cupcakes was not a portrayal of what the show really was, but the fact someone took the effort to make such a memorable read was enough too perk my interest.

 

Fan made material no matter how flawed or distorted are still fan works. People who are interested in the distortion can also find appeal in the source material they may not of even looked at previously.

 

As for the show itself, if it conforms to the parodies and panders to the fanbase then there is much bigger problem than fanfiction with bad ocs. It disregards its OWN aesthetic for the sake of profit. EQG is a prime example of such a move that even the VAs said was "the fans fault for drawing humanized art all the time." No it was the writing team and their superiors fault for going with a census and what fans think they want instead of working on an actually compelling and well written story.

 

Thats my two cents on the matter.

[Invincible 2,092]

Well, i can't account for everyone, but the few OCs iv'e drawn were not done in the exact same artistic style from the show. I'm not a very good artist, abut while i drew upon inspiration from the show, i can't entirely replicate it's exact style. I could only create a sort of hybrid between my style and the show's.

 

I'm sincerely sorry if it upsets you, but not everyone can duplicate the exact same art style. That's just the way it is.

[Nature's Spell 526]

As long as fanfic isn't used to rebut canon than there is no issue with different ideas. Personally I'm only interested in the show and head canyoning to understand the show better, but everybody else can do as they wish. Makes the fandom richer.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

 

EQG is a prime example of such a move that even the VAs said was "the fans fault for drawing humanized art all the time."

I wonder if that is true. I also wonder how many 6 year-old are drawing humanized ponies unless they are talking about older fans which is unusual for there to be so much influence from the lesser unconventional fan base. I think humanized ponies is also against the aesthetic of ponies which is unfortunate that Hasbro went with that.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

I wonder if that is true. I also wonder how many 6 year-old are drawing humanized ponies unless they are talking about older fans which is unusual for there to be so much influence from the lesser unconventional fan base. I think humanized ponies is also against the aesthetic of ponies which is unfortunate that Hasbro went with that.

According to the video that featured a va panel they said that Hasbro keeps tabs on alot of Fan art and have entire collections of fan made works and the trend of humanised ponies inspired Eqg. There were many "shout outs" to the bronies in it too. As much as people hate on it it was made for the fans.

 

And that is precisely the problem. When hasbro takes the reigns and shifts focus from the story they are telling to cater it to what they think the fans want it becomes a mess.

 

Think when Rarity made the dresses for the mane six way back in season one. It wasnt what they thought they wanted and they nit picked over minor details. So Rarity trying to please gave them EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANTED. The resulting dresses not only were terrible but almost killed her fashion designing career.

 

Eqg is the proverbial dress bronies thought they wanted till they realized it was junk.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Buck Testa

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

 

The resulting dresses not only were terrible but almost killed her fashion designing career.

But in this case, it was obviously successful, hence the second movie.

[Guest]

Shoot why would that offend anyone? Heck if someone wants to make a OC or whatever it maybe or how creative it maybe. They have all the right to do whatever they want to do what they drew or came up with. If you don't like something that someone has done or created for whatever reason just leave it be and ignore it. 

People should feel free to do as they please when it comes down to creating stuff and should not feel like they can't create something because another does not approve of it.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

But in this case, it was obviously successful, hence the second movie.

Meh that doesnt really prove anything beyond it riding the laurals of the shows popularity and having the sequel greenlit cause of it. Now if they get their act together and work with what they made then good on them, but as of now Eqg is terrible and its terrible because its not written well and panders to fans.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

 

panders to fans.

What does that even mean? Is that the same as not abiding by show aesthetic? Because other than the setting which does not impress, the aesthetic of friendship and kindness and other things are left intact. I saw the movie as pandering to the show itself, especially since Sunset Shimmer was essentially another Nightmare Moon.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

What does that even mean? Is that the same as not abiding by show aesthetic? Because other than the setting which does not impress, the aesthetic of friendship and kindness and other things are left intact. I saw the movie as pandering to the show itself, especially since Sunset Shimmer was essentially another Nightmare Moon.

I cannot go to far into detail without going off topic but if you want the full explanation pm me.

[Shift 4,277]

Violent and unfriendly and unharmonic fanworks of MLP can be done well; sometimes they can be done perfectly. For a "perfect" violent fanwork/fiction that doesn't exactly fit with the aetherisWHaTEVER, look at Fallout: Equestria, The Immortal Game, and Hard Reset. All three are violent works that normally wouldn't fit within the aetherium forge of the show, but it works well somehow.

 

In a nutshell, people do make violent, unharmonic, and overall unfriendly fanworks of MLP, deal with it.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Shift

[Cwanky 17,803]

Art by its very nature, is personal expression to how the individual sees fit, regardless if it fits or doesn't within a theme and context. You even say that some artists deliberately create art that is very far removed and violates norms. By definition in part, that is what avant garde does - it presents new and unusual ideas.

 

I will be the first to say that I strongly disagree and abhor many of the choices made for art relating to FiM. But people are entitled to their ideas and expressions, no matter how cliched, atrocious, and disagreeable we may find them. Art knows no standard nor limit to which it can be confined, save that of its creator.