Shanks 10,816 January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 What would happen to cause such a unity would be because there is a movement of powerful corporations and banks that are trying to push toward a one world government of "New World Order" where power is consolidated into a small cabal of criminals. There have been pushes for a North American Union similar to the European Union for quite a long time and NAFTA which was a trade agreement passed during the Clinton administration was a huge step towards that. If a North American Union were to come to pass I would not be pleased about it no matter what the reason, history has shown us that the more power is concentrated the more corruption and less liberty there is going to be so I would fight tooth and nail to reverse it and I am sure many other Americans would as well. As for how Candians and Mexicans would react they may be a bit more likely to accept it though Canada may surprise me. 3 Rarity Get's Cockroaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephala 2,633 January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 It probably wouldn't make sense otherwise since Canada and the US were certainly created under a multitude of cultures from the beginning, not under a singular or even a closely related group like how Italy or Germany were created. There aren't any natives in the US or Canada. Just children and descendants of immigrants. Save for First Nations of course. I think those are mostly government issues you are addressing which includes supports for civil and human rights. It just means that Canadians have a better government. Mm! Personally, I would have to disagree. Obviously there aren't "true" natives, and I'm an immigrant myself, but I do see the "melting pot" more prevalently in the United States than in Canada the few times I've visited. I still refer to myself as Welsh-Polish primarily, despite the fact that I haven't lived in either place for quite a few years...but in general, I'd say the national identity of Canada is much different, just in that we're a little more open. And some of the points I made were about government, yes, but I feel the government is instrumental in preserving the cultures of our First Nations (even though they tried to destroy them at one point *coughs*) in some cases. In other, they're lordish dickwads. But that's another thing entirely. American government (again from what I've seen) seems to be more focused on "you are American", even if that may not be your heritage. So that's mostly why I talked so much about government in comparison to national identity. In Canada, you're something-Canadian. In the United States, you're American. IDK. That's how it looks to me. Honestly, I'm not very good at explaining things like this...I just would not want to be compared to the United States at all, if possible. I don't think Canada has the same feel as it. However, I'm still more concerned about the horrible economics of it. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Letter 1,832 January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 How would you react? Me, personally, won't mind much. If the whole world could be one big nation, that will be great. No more wars, right? It would not end wars. To expand is just a power grab. And it wouldn't be a real nation. A lot of individual nations have nothing to gain by giving up sovereignty to some overlord government thousands of km away. Americans have nothing to gain by joining with Mexicans or Canadians. Points of view towards government would certainly conflict, especially between traditional enemies around the world. Mm! Personally, I would have to disagree. Obviously there aren't "true" natives, and I'm an immigrant myself, but I do see the "melting pot" more prevalently in the United States than in Canada the few times I've visited. I still refer to myself as Welsh-Polish primarily, despite the fact that I haven't lived in either place for quite a few years...but in general, I'd say the national identity of Canada is much different, just in that we're a little more open. And some of the points I made were about government, yes, but I feel the government is instrumental in preserving the cultures of our First Nations (even though they tried to destroy them at one point *coughs*) in some cases. In other, they're lordish dickwads. But that's another thing entirely. American government (again from what I've seen) seems to be more focused on "you are American", even if that may not be your heritage. So that's mostly why I talked so much about government in comparison to national identity. In Canada, you're something-Canadian. In the United States, you're American. IDK. That's how it looks to me. Honestly, I'm not very good at explaining things like this...I just would not want to be compared to the United States at all, if possible. I don't think Canada has the same feel as it. However, I'm still more concerned about the horrible economics of it. XD It doesn't matter what the government has to say. Governments are simply not a good indication of culture in a nation. There is simply no American "heritage". It's just a name on a map or on one's passport. I personally have no heritage of any kind. That is why I am personally individualistic. If this difference in openness and feeling is vague then maybe it has to do with what you believe about Canada. Because people have these beliefs about "culture" that may or may not be a part of reality, then it just makes this concept of a giant "nation" more unrealistic. Silver Letter!!! Silver Letter's MLP collection Have: 946 https://data.mlpmerch.com/checklist/180/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohinar 72 January 12, 2015 Share January 12, 2015 Ha, it's a pretty amusing hypothetical question. I don't think it's likely at all, though fun to think about. The USA is full of political and subcultural infighting without adding Canada and Mexico (which of course would have their own subcultures and political arguments) to the mix. If they were added we would have more breakdown in the functioning of the larger government and culture. I think it's far more likely that someday, the USA will break down into subregions with more autonomy, like state groupings with similar political and cultural aims and views. I don't really support such a thing, but there are a small minority of loud people who do. And I don't find it implausible. As for how I feel about it, I don't really see a larger country as good or bad, inherently. It would depend on the state of the three nations, who gets more say/power, what kind of government would be formed, etc. Would people lose or gain civil rights? How would differing ideas towards religion in government be resolved? And of course, economic and currency issues, which others have already mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LED Dasher 228 January 17, 2015 Share January 17, 2015 Unity among countries can be a great thing, but I don't think that the North American countries are going to unite into one country anytime soon. However, the US has more in common with Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean than it does with Europe. Mexicans, along with various Hispanics and Latinos, have lived in the US longer than Europeans have. The Southwest portion of the US originally belonged to Mexico before being taken by force, but there are a large number of Hispanics and Latinos in the area to this day. The US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, and India were all former colonies that have become independent and have more in common with each other than with the UK and the rest of Europe. In reality, however, the US never had a defined culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest January 18, 2015 Share January 18, 2015 I can assure you that the least thing you'd want to deal with is the Mexican Drug War, which is still strongly ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Frostflame 3,568 January 18, 2015 Share January 18, 2015 if your referring to all north American Countries I assume you mean Mexico, America, and Canada.... in the far off future I can foresee America annexing Mexico and Canada..... but I don't think it would make a difference.... maybe make America more successful giving us more resources and a larger country but all it would really do is spark more hate for our country and as possible as it is its just as unlikely to happen even if the three countries willingly decide to merge into one large country it could spark other problems like what the primary language should be, whats legal and whats illegal, who should lead such a massive country, what government should we use.... its more likely America annexes Mexico and Canada then for them all to willingly merge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metemponychosis 1,261 January 18, 2015 Share January 18, 2015 Texas would secede sooner than Celestia can eat a cake. https://www.fimfiction.net/user/32864/Metemponychosis For dumb, self-important fics about mythology, ponies and fascist griffons that can't figure friendship out. And I'm just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousPony 157 January 21, 2015 Share January 21, 2015 What could happen to cause this unity of countries? Some sort of World War? I.. don't know... I imagine it'd take a long time to make that decision and get everyone together as one big country.. What would this country be called? The United States of Camexica? Or just America, instead of having Canada, Mexico and the United States of America. It'd be one big America. What would be the system of government that would run such a large country? I think it'd be tricky getting everyone to settle on one way to run things, especially since there are plenty of differences. I'm sure the U.S. would fight very hard to make things go their way. I'm not sure exactly what would happen in the end though... How would the rest of the world react? I feel like they'd watch curiously... I can't say much more (goodness, I feel like I don't know anything). How would people within the countries react? I know some people who would not be happy to have Mexico become a part of the U.S. :/ I think the U.S. would be kinda bossy about Canada and Mexico. I think Canada would try to stick with the way they've been, and I'm not sure what Mexico would do. I obviously don't know enough to come up with any good answers. How would you react? Well, if Canada was made to become more like the U.S., I'd be like, "no... I loved Canada just the way it was..." But if it didn't change, I'd TOTALLY move there and not have to worry about borders. Me in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakicetus 312 January 21, 2015 Share January 21, 2015 Interesting hypothetical situation, albeit unlikely. How would you react? We're doooommed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valynne 2,667 January 28, 2015 Share January 28, 2015 Mexico: We won't be poor anymore! . We arent as poor as you think unfortunately rich mexican are very rich and poor mexican are very poor but we also have middle class like the US, am from middle class, you know we just pass a problem when an actress clam to boutgh a 80 millon pesos mansion, and most of us were pissed off cuz all our taxes went to her mansion, but that doesnt mean we are poor, i invite you to investigate a bit more about our economy, i dunno your sources but they are wrong Let's just call it the United States of Mexicanusa Lol This is kinda like a Code Geass situation. I don't know about Mexico though, who would want to form with a country that unstable? Not saying that the U.S doesn't have it's problems,but forming with Mexico is just a bad idea. every country has problems, we have the drug cartel problems but the thing is between them and the civil people isnt touched, all dead ones are related to drugs or criminals, civilians cant be damaged cuz to the drug cartels we are clients, the us also is very unstable with crime rate, and am not gonna say awful things about a country i love that is the United States but we arent as unstable as some parts of US and if you think all mexico is a war zone allow me to explain that this happen on north states only Chihuahua, Sonora, Nuevo Leon but Mexico city, Guerrero, Veracruz, all center and south states of mexico are completly peaceful, is like all crimes were just pulled off in north states and the peace is with us. point is Mexico and US are both unstable in crimes but we also have peaceful sides, if they join, both crime and justice are gonna increase Please check my GIF shop! https://mlpforums.com/topic/199911-open-rethajnis-ych-comission-shop/#comment-6247435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCS 7,537 March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 I don't want anything to do with Mexico until they start making some serious progress on the massive drug cartel problem they have down there. There's also a bit of a history of their government being dishonest and corrupt. As for Canada, I don't have a problem with that politically but I have no idea if it'd work out economically. As much as I'd like to see NA, or even the whole world united, there's just way too much horrible shit in the world right now to make that practical or even beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlunderSteed 1,252 March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 if your referring to all north American Countries I assume you mean Mexico, America, and Canada.... in the far off future I can foresee America annexing Mexico and Canada..... but I don't think it would make a difference.... maybe make America more successful giving us more resources and a larger country but all it would really do is spark more hate for our country and as possible as it is its just as unlikely to happen even if the three countries willingly decide to merge into one large country it could spark other problems like what the primary language should be, whats legal and whats illegal, who should lead such a massive country, what government should we use.... its more likely America annexes Mexico and Canada then for them all to willingly merge Good god, my eyes. But yeah...a unified North America is about as ridiculous and improbable as a unified Africa. Regards, PlunderSteed Bassist, pianist, and backing vocalist for MLP-themed metal band Draconequus. Check out our latest music video, a metal cover of "Tricks up my Sleeve" here. Bassist, pianist, and vocalist for MLP-themed alt rock band Worst Princess. Check our recent live performance of "Shine Like Rainbows" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyStrike 603 March 20, 2015 Share March 20, 2015 I would be amused. I'd be busy laughing at all the flustered people upset with the change. Hopefully, if we merged we could all go with Canada's healthcare system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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