VengefulStrudel 1,495 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 What about the Elitists ("We are superior to other fandoms" or "We are superior to the "false" bronies") and Closet Bronies? I'm not sure which group I belong in, I watch the show, check a lot of fan content, produce some of it, but I haven't bought any merch (nor do I intend to) nor do I bring ponies everywhere I go (ie on other forums or whatever). I guess I'd be in #1 1 Check out my art thread for some cute ponies, cookies and boops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 July 18, 2015 Author Share July 18, 2015 You forgot to mention the analysts. The count as content creators tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeet 2,027 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 The count as content creators tbh They don't really. Creators are artists and that. Analysts give their opinions on already created episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melke 160 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 That is some good analysis you got there on bronies and the types of bronies there are. I, myself, fall into the regular fan and in between transition to a content creator. I wonder if the "just fan" would can be expanded to include a small group that had gotten into the show from Generation 1(not counting generation 2 or 3). My RP OCs: Melke the cat, Syo the feline explorer, Saber the feral pony Check out my art stuff at deviantart or request something from my request shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa 5,553 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 None. I'm that fan who doesn't watch the show anymore but still participates in MLP-related things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 None. I'm that fan who doesn't watch the show anymore but still participates in MLP-related things. Yeah I am way behind in the show at this point. Season 5 isn't doing it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 July 18, 2015 Author Share July 18, 2015 Yeah I am way behind in the show at this point. Season 5 isn't doing it for me. I'm not challenging your opinion but just intrigued as to why you dislike season 5? Yeah it isn't perfect but it does have some pretty good stuff like Bloom and Gloom, Griffonstone and Amending Fences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 I'm not challenging your opinion but just intrigued as to why you dislike season 5? Yeah it isn't perfect but it does have some pretty good stuff like Bloom and Gloom, Griffonstone and Amending Fences I'm just not liking the direction they are taking. It feels like they are trying to balance between this continuity heavy story arch and not having continuity be necessary and it's like we're in this weird limbo of in between. As a result it seems like they spend time explaining away plotholes because they are afraid the older fans might point them out at some point or doing flashbacks/explanations of things that happened in previous episodes that really don't need to be explained. Overall it feels like they are going for this big overarching story and I feel some of the original charm is lost by trying too hard to develop deeper stories and appeal to the slightly older audience. I missed the days when the episodes were all just pure humor, now it's like these big quests that span over an entire season of "okay we have to figure out some big mystery". The scale of everything feels bigger and not in a way that is appealing to me. The problems have become "how do I deal with being royalty?" and such. Not to mention some of the writing has started to decline. Discord throughout season 4... Was... Terrible. His dialogue, his writing, everything about his character felt really ditzy and not as amusing to me. Perhaps it's because they overused him a bit. I guess what my biggest "eh" thing with the show lately is, would by that the simplicity is being taken away slowly. Now we have season long plotlines, references to prior episodes up the wazoo and a lot of writing that feels like it's catered to fans rather than being original. Hell episode 100 was pretty much an entire episode dedicated to fans, and it kind of feels really disconnecting to have the show creators making stuff just to please the fans. As a fan, I prefer to be told what I didn't even know I wanted rather than just being given exactly what I ask for because it ruins the surprise, it muddies up the experience for me. Sure for a lot of fans seeing episode 100 felt like a treat, but to me it feels more like just a formality than anything else. Octavia's voice sounded EXACTLY as I expected and to me... That just kind of feels... Boring. Almost everything was a matter of "yeah, the fandom has been calling that stuff for years now." This also creates a new problem for me in that: it gives fans too much control over the show. The creators are putting too much power in the fans hands and this creates an atmosphere where fan demands seem to get ridiculous. Have we all forgotten there was a PETITION to get Vinyl's eyes changed to red that received thousands of signatures? I kind of feel that catering to the adult fanbase doesn't really make for entertainment for me because essentially... If the fans already predicted it months ago... Where's the fun in watching it? Where's the entertainment in watching what was already known? If everything is just going to be predictable references to fans, I don't find the humor as solid. While the new season has its charms, and some of the humor is still solid, I don't really find it as amusing anymore. It's my opinion, and I am not expecting others to agree with it. However I'm half expecting someone to come in and go "YOU'RE WRONG. IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD BECAUSE A, B and C." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexamena 391 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 I did feel a bit of an eye roll when i saw big derpy and lybon catdog in the ladt episode. I can kinda see where Mist is coming from. I expected that after Slice of Life, everything would go back to normal and i think for the most part, it has. But ya, enough is enough. I like the silliness and lightheartedness of regular meaningless episodes. For instance, Big Bang Theory was way way way better with the original premise in the first few seasons but when Penny got less ditzy and Howard got married the broader story arch killed the momentum for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harshreality 60 July 18, 2015 Author Share July 18, 2015 I'm just not liking the direction they are taking. It feels like they are trying to balance between this continuity heavy story arch and not having continuity be necessary and it's like we're in this weird limbo of in between. As a result it seems like they spend time explaining away plotholes because they are afraid the older fans might point them out at some point or doing flashbacks/explanations of things that happened in previous episodes that really don't need to be explained. Overall it feels like they are going for this big overarching story and I feel some of the original charm is lost by trying too hard to develop deeper stories and appeal to the slightly older audience. I missed the days when the episodes were all just pure humor, now it's like these big quests that span over an entire season of "okay we have to figure out some big mystery". The scale of everything feels bigger and not in a way that is appealing to me. The problems have become "how do I deal with being royalty?" and such. Not to mention some of the writing has started to decline. Discord throughout season 4... Was... Terrible. His dialogue, his writing, everything about his character felt really ditzy and not as amusing to me. Perhaps it's because they overused him a bit. I guess what my biggest "eh" thing with the show lately is, would by that the simplicity is being taken away slowly. Now we have season long plotlines, references to prior episodes up the wazoo and a lot of writing that feels like it's catered to fans rather than being original. Hell episode 100 was pretty much an entire episode dedicated to fans, and it kind of feels really disconnecting to have the show creators making stuff just to please the fans. As a fan, I prefer to be told what I didn't even know I wanted rather than just being given exactly what I ask for because it ruins the surprise, it muddies up the experience for me. Sure for a lot of fans seeing episode 100 felt like a treat, but to me it feels more like just a formality than anything else. Octavia's voice sounded EXACTLY as I expected and to me... That just kind of feels... Boring. Almost everything was a matter of "yeah, the fandom has been calling that stuff for years now." This also creates a new problem for me in that: it gives fans too much control over the show. The creators are putting too much power in the fans hands and this creates an atmosphere where fan demands seem to get ridiculous. Have we all forgotten there was a PETITION to get Vinyl's eyes changed to red that received thousands of signatures? I kind of feel that catering to the adult fanbase doesn't really make for entertainment for me because essentially... If the fans already predicted it months ago... Where's the fun in watching it? Where's the entertainment in watching what was already known? If everything is just going to be predictable references to fans, I don't find the humor as solid. While the new season has its charms, and some of the humor is still solid, I don't really find it as amusing anymore. It's my opinion, and I am not expecting others to agree with it. However I'm half expecting someone to come in and go "YOU'RE WRONG. IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD BECAUSE A, B and C." Yeah I get you man... Even though I still mostly think season 5 is as good as the previous ones, anyone who doesn't think what you are saying is even partly true is kidding themselves. I don't like that they only have a story arc when they feel like it, and only occasionally bring it up. Either fully commit to one or don't have one at all. Better shows like Steven Universe have made story arcs popular again, and so it seems that the writer's hands have been forced, as story arcs are just the cool thing these days. I do however think that the show needed the adventure boost. Slice of life really worked when the characters were learning about friendship, but now that they are all good friends the choices are more limited. The show needed to explore new places and characters to stay fresh, as this point Ponyville is getting slightly tedious. Then again, I do think the 2nd best episode of this season is Amending Fences, which is a traditional slice of life Twilight episode (Seriously mist, give it a shot. You sound like you'll love it) so this shows thats the show's greatest strength is in slice of life. As for the humor, I believe it has been on point this season, even though the references do seem slightly out of place... The Shining, really!? So yeah, I really enjoyed your post, and if you don't watch the show anymore, that's your choice man. Just keep one eye open because this season has given us some good slice of life stuff so far, and the leaked episode list seems to have more slice of life in store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna the Great of all the Russias 3,034 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 (edited) Wouldn't number 1 not be a brony then? Just a fan? The title "brony" is more of a dedicated fan title. I disagree. Brony is a general term referring to any fan of MLPFIM; fans of MLPFIM and Bronies mean the same thing if you ask me. Edited July 18, 2015 by Tsaritsa Luna 2 Pony Art Thread Brony since ~25 July of 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 It is if you take into account the large amount of people who keep their love for the show a secret it isn't if you take into the account the large amount of people who do not keep their love for the show a secret, buy merchandise, or the ones that have waifus, the ones featured on cringe channels. There are just far too many factors for a "general" definition for what defines a brony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 I disagree. Brony is a general term referring to any fan of MLPFIM; fans of MLPFIM and Bronies mean the same thing if you ask me. I disagree. I am a very casual fan and I don't consider myself a brony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna the Great of all the Russias 3,034 July 18, 2015 Share July 18, 2015 I disagree. I am a very casual fan and I don't consider myself a brony. As long as you're a fan of some type, I still consider you a Brony. Again I don't consider the term Brony to refer to more dedicated fans but instead a very broad term; that's what sub-categories are for to specify a Brony's level of dedication which, in your case, is a casual Brony. And whether one would actually label themselves as one I consider to be irrelevant (actually you appear to be more dedicated than others I know who would call themselves Bronies). Though if you disagree still I guess we'll just leave it at that because, unlike what I thought initially, there's no defined definition of the term. At least from what I perceived, the explanation of MLPFIM fan being the same as Brony seemed to have been well accepted when I looked into it and it's what I stuck with ever since. Pony Art Thread Brony since ~25 July of 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim&Venöm 19,881 July 19, 2015 Share July 19, 2015 I guess some mix between 1. and 5? I enjoy MLP a heck of alot lot more than casual fans, have a decent amount of merch and aren't' keeping my love for the show a secret. But at the same time, I'm not exactly fanatical in my devotion either, and while I'd call my interests in MLP an influence, a subculture, a hobby and a passion, I'd hardly call it a lifestyle. So, either a more extreme version of 1. or a more mild version of 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerKingBakudan 702 July 19, 2015 Share July 19, 2015 (edited) I definitely fall into #1. I love the show, but I don't go to cons, I don't like fan content (with the exception of custom-made plushies), and the only time I ever buy merch is when I'm shopping for gifts to give people on birthdays, Christmas, and stuff like that.But oh man…… this category. Lol. Didn't you forget the "Elitist Brony Assholes"? Remember: they're always better at being a "brony" than you are. What about the Elitists ("We are superior to other fandoms" or "We are superior to the "false" bronies") and Closet Bronies? These people are a cancer. I've only run into just a few of them here, but the rate at which they've turned up to try to ruin everything for me is alarming. They treat MLP like a religion of sorts, and like the Westboro Baptist Church, they'll get offended over the dumbest things and try to rebuke people. I mean, why am I getting comments saying I want to change the show into something dark and violent? These stupid motherfuckers obviously never engaged in comic book talk before, ie. Who would win in a fight between Goku and Superman? It's a norm for people across multiple fandoms. There's no reason why MLP should be exempt. Yes, the show has to develop within the parameters of being a family-friendly cartoon. That doesn't mean that WE do.There's nothing wrong with being a fan of the show. But that's no excuse for you not to man up and accept that others will enjoy it differently from you. Anyone who says otherwise isn't worth pissing on. Edited July 19, 2015 by Lord-Pomegranate No questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritishBrony2012 840 July 26, 2015 Share July 26, 2015 (edited) Not sure what group I be in, I called myself brony, enjoy the show, loved ponies (never stop thinking about them), look into fan-made stuffs like music, art, videos and fictions, but don't go over the top and let most people know I love MLP, but do put on my profile/interests that Ponies/MLP is one of the things I like. Not sure which group I be in. Edited July 26, 2015 by AdamBurt Proud British Brony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphys Hedge 671 July 26, 2015 Share July 26, 2015 I'm more along the lines of 1. I'm just a fan of the show. I'm also a clopper, but let's not talk about that. I don't create content, besides drawing sometimes. Character in profile picture is Pearl from Steven Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Sassy Dashie~ 712 July 26, 2015 Share July 26, 2015 I fall into group 2. I write a bunch on fan fiction, and my passion for drawing ponies is ridiculous. I also love writing and singing songs that are pony related. <3 Friendship is not about whom you've known the longest..It's about those who've never left your side. Ask me anything! My OC Siggie by the lovely MiniKirby123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chara 1,565 July 27, 2015 Share July 27, 2015 (edited) There is ONE group in the fandom that is also avoided by most of the fandom and all I can say is that they express their love for the show in a... well I can say is that its Inappropriate. I am in the middle of 2 and 1 I make music due to being inspired by MLP but I don't make it revolved around it. Edited July 27, 2015 by ZachEclipse signature made by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteffieMusings 295 July 28, 2015 Share July 28, 2015 I have to admit that I fall under group 1 most of the time. I might have fallen under group 2 a couple years ago. I feel more like a casual brony. My webcomic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ac3xAssasin 453 July 29, 2015 Share July 29, 2015 (edited) I would consider myself a dedicated fan, I watch the show regularly and I have a decent collection of merch, but I have in no way let ponies take over my life. However I don't create any content nor am I a helpful type. so I am probably above a 1 but below a 5 Edited July 29, 2015 by Ac3xAssasin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grepper 3,193 August 1, 2015 Share August 1, 2015 I'd call myself "just a fan." I do have several gigabytes of pony music, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cedar 1,408 August 1, 2015 Share August 1, 2015 Needs a group for jaded cynics. Roleplaying OC: Red Cedar - Cast Character: Applejack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebula 28 August 1, 2015 Share August 1, 2015 (edited) I come under #1 but i also enjoy fan creations. Edited August 1, 2015 by Nebula OwO what's this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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