Colts and Cute-ceañeras

[Yoshi89 5,293]

So, every time we've seen a Cute-ceañera in the show, the foal who's being celebrated is a filly. Diamond Tiara and Zipporwhill had theirs and Twist talked about planning for hers. When Featherweight got his cutie mark, no party was even mentioned. Is it much in the same fashion that Cute-ceañeras, much like Sweet Sixteens and Quinceañeras, are strictly for fillies only?

[A Joe in the Bush 255]

That would make sense, especially since Equestria is a Matriarchy, rather than a patriarchy like Earth.

[Shadow Beam 1,179]

It seems plausible. 

 

In Latin America the quinceañeras are restricted only to women, whereas males tend to celebrate their 18th birthday instead, because beer.

[Vixor 80]

So, every time we've seen a Cute-ceañera in the show, the foal who's being celebrated is a filly. Diamond Tiara and Zipporwhill had theirs and Twist talked about planning for hers. When Featherweight got his cutie mark, no party was even mentioned. Is it much in the same fashion that Cute-ceañeras, much like Sweet Sixteens and Quinceañeras, are strictly for fillies only?

 

Nah. It's likely simply a case of the female characters getting more screentime on average, and thus we see more into their life, including when little events like that happen. Not that characters other than the main characters tend to get much screentime overall in this show in the first place, regardless of gender. 

 

That would make sense, especially since Equestria is a Matriarchy, rather than a patriarchy like Earth.

 

No, it really isn't. Equestria is gender-egalitarian, not matriarchal or patriarchal. There's no indication whatsoever that one gender is advantaged over the other there, socially or economically. We've seen ponies of both genders doing all sorts of careers, and in general both genders seem equally influential.

 

Now, you can argue that, since the current lineup of alicorns is female, they technically have a matriarchal government at the top levels (one of the definitions of a matriarchal government is simply that the head of state(s) is/are female). They wouldn't turn down an alicorn candidate due to gender or anything silly like that however, so I must stress that it doesn't mean that a male couldn't become an alicorn. Starswirl likely almost did, had he properly understood friendship (quoting Celestia here). The only thing that it really means, and I'm using the two ponies that we know to have ascended recently as an example, is that Twilight and Cadence earned it through their merit and capability, and both happened to be female.

 

Lower levels of the government we don't see much of, but considering there are ponies of both genders everywhere else, it's safe to say that the government is also staffed by both genders. By lower levels of government, I mean stuff like mayors and other officials, a potential senate if Equestria has one, etc.

 

But yeah, their society is very clearly gender-egalitarian. There is not, and never has been, anything to suggest that it's matriarchal or patriarchal.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

 

 

Nah. It's likely simply a case of the female characters getting more screentime on average

Excellent post on both counts. I doubt that males are left out of Equestrian society. It would appear to be equal and it might be easy to assume that females hold a privileged place, there is no hard evidence to support it, even taking the royal government into account.

[1Bit 1,531]

Obviously, in season 1, the show still had the focus on the female characters mainly, so it probably didn't cross their mind about what colts had as opposed to the fillies.

 

But everyone above has solid ideas. They probably would have a similar celebration but most likely less frou-frou and fancy.

[Steve Piranha 29,447]

So, every time we've seen a Cute-ceañera in the show, the foal who's being celebrated is a filly. Diamond Tiara and Zipporwhill had theirs and Twist talked about planning for hers. When Featherweight got his cutie mark, no party was even mentioned. Is it much in the same fashion that Cute-ceañeras, much like Sweet Sixteens and Quinceañeras, are strictly for fillies only?

Interesting question. For one part, being celebrated only for fillies out of it's name, that comes from the traditional Latin american celebration "Quince Años", which is celebrated for women. But for the other, colts also get cutie marks , but we haven't seen a cutieañera for a colt because the plot didn't demanded it. Which ever it is, is anyone's guess

[MLPFanatic34 3,235]

I wonder if we'll see more cute-ceaneras in the future.

[cider float 2,538]

Maybe it's a cultural thing and Featherweight just isn't part of it.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,863]

Yeah, it seems to be a filly only type of thing , given the origins of the word itself. We should have some kind of colt equivalent.

[A Joe in the Bush 255]

Nah. It's likely simply a case of the female characters getting more screentime on average, and thus we see more into their life, including when little events like that happen. Not that characters other than the main characters tend to get much screentime overall in this show in the first place, regardless of gender. 

 

 

No, it really isn't. Equestria is gender-egalitarian, not matriarchal or patriarchal. There's no indication whatsoever that one gender is advantaged over the other there, socially or economically. We've seen ponies of both genders doing all sorts of careers, and in general both genders seem equally influential.

 

Now, you can argue that, since the current lineup of alicorns is female, they technically have a matriarchal government at the top levels (one of the definitions of a matriarchal government is simply that the head of state(s) is/are female). They wouldn't turn down an alicorn candidate due to gender or anything silly like that however, so I must stress that it doesn't mean that a male couldn't become an alicorn. Starswirl likely almost did, had he properly understood friendship (quoting Celestia here). The only thing that it really means, and I'm using the two ponies that we know to have ascended recently as an example, is that Twilight and Cadence earned it through their merit and capability, and both happened to be female.

 

Lower levels of the government we don't see much of, but considering there are ponies of both genders everywhere else, it's safe to say that the government is also staffed by both genders. By lower levels of government, I mean stuff like mayors and other officials, a potential senate if Equestria has one, etc.

 

But yeah, their society is very clearly gender-egalitarian. There is not, and never has been, anything to suggest that it's matriarchal or patriarchal.

When the leader of the town, the country and the military are all female, it starts looking like a matriarchy to me. The only stallion in a position of power I can think of is Appleloosa's sheriff. I don't think the country is gender-egalitarian. (Though if we want to continue this, let's take it to a different thread, rather than derailing this one.)

[cider float 2,538]

I feel like women tend to do these sweet 16 things.

 

Men tend to throw parties for a purpose like for business related reasons or to get a bunch of girls under his roof.

[Attack of the Pwns 894]

I'd imagine that they celebrate in some capacity, although it may not be as formal, like others in this thread have theorized.

 

On another note, we do see Rumble and another colt at Zipporwhill's party, so apparently colts can at least attend Cute-ceneras.

[Vixor 80]

When the leader of the town, the country and the military are all female, it starts looking like a matriarchy to me. The only stallion in a position of power I can think of is Appleloosa's sheriff. I don't think the country is gender-egalitarian. (Though if we want to continue this, let's take it to a different thread, rather than derailing this one.)

 

You know, we haven't had a chance to see many ponies in positions of power period, regardless of gender. There's the princesses and princes, a mayor or two, and... that's about it really. 

 

We just don't get many examples of ponies with positions like that in the show (they exist, one of the first things coming to mind being stuff like the mayors of other towns, but we just don't get a chance to see them), so you can hardly say that one gender is somehow dominating such positions, especially when there are mares and stallions pretty much everywhere else. As I said before, I'm sure ponies of both genders staff the government, which would include stuff like mayors and whatever other government officials exist.

 

Moreover, there are plenty of examples of socially and economically influential ponies of both genders, as well as again, simply a lot of mares and stallions in all sorts of positions/careers, and in general no sign of discrimination or strict gender roles. I'm pretty sure it is gender-egalitarian.

 

Anyway, I'd really rather not make another thread on such a topic, as it would draw a lot of attention, and I don't particularly feel like dragging things out much longer. Perhaps just ending the conversation soon would be best. Not too much else to say anyway, and I stand by the fact that it's gender-egalitarian.

Edited August 10, 2015 by Vixor

[GuyNamedEarl 1,332]

There are a lot more fillies than colts ib the show, so natural the focus would be on female characters.

[mars 4,863]

Cuteceañeras are based of a Quinceañera, which is a traditional coming of age ceremony for Latin-Americans. 
On a girl's fifteenth birthday, she has the party as a celebration of her 'becoming a woman'. It's more like a huge birthday party rather than a ceremony now. 

Quinceañeras are primarily for females, so it makes sense in-show that only fillies celebrate it.

[Megas 27,821]

Colts don't get Cute-ceaneras because I'd figure they'd get their equivalent of a Bar-Mitzvah instead

[derpy4ever 48]

it would make sense it it was a filly thing. the two sexes often have different ways of doing things.