Why do some people treat Equestria as utopia?

[4april 374]

Equestrian has its flaws but in many ways it is much better than our world.

 

As many pointed out, Equestrian seems to have a low crime rate. Every pony appears to be happy and content. There is much more equality.

 

Ponies do work hard for money. But they are not crazy for it. They value many more things like friends, family etc. more than money. Of course, maybe Poniville is the exception...

 

Finally, the concept of a cutie mark is not attractive to some. But it does seem to have its merits. You get a mark to show your talent and you work on that talent. I don't think this means the ponies only study their specialty though.

 

It also seems like society in Equestria care about others. I am sure that no one goes hungry there.

 

I would say Equestria is no better than our world overall, though we could learn a little from them.

[Trixio 443]

meh...perhaps for the fact that, after all, the friendship (in Equestria) seems a sentiment heard and taken more seriously than the people of the real world. 

In the real world, friendship is mostly selfish and opportunistic. Usually people tightens friendships exclusively for not feel themselves alone and for not to appear to others as a "loser".Not to mention those friendships aimed exclusively at business purposes.

For example,once people got their circle of friends and their girlfriends / boyfriends, they close their doors to the others and become a kind of "asocials" .. but with friends.This is also true for so-called "bronies".

Yes,this also seems to exist between the characters of Equestria, but cheaper than the real world.

 

However, for me Equestria is not my dream. My inner world is my dream.

[Malinter 3,064]

Well in general, Equestria IS a nicer place. Although bare in mind. Equestria is only one continent on a planet and the show as implied many times that all is not well outside its borders for ponykind.

 

 Equestria just as the luxury of having a ruler who actually gives a real shit about her subjects. There are almost no real human leaders in the world that do that. Simply because kind, caring people cannot get though the cesspit that is the political system. 

Edited November 24, 2015 by Malinter

[Black Sabbath 2,486]

Because some people like to see the ponies as a mary sue race and therefore justify xenocide upon all evil human scum. 

 

Because ponies are the superior, apex species! And everyone that isn't a pony is evil scum and needs to die become a pony.

This picture sums up my feelings about this post...

[Xeltor23 704]

I don't personally see Equestria as Utopia, considering that it isn't as safe as we thought it is in the beggining, but I still can't take the ponies seriously at 100% ; I mean, look at the guards in "Rarity Investigates" ; they're supposed to protect Canterlot's castle, and they're so good at it that they're diverted by a cake. Yep, a cake. I mean, they do need some rest and recognition, but to the point of letting their duty down for cake? They may be isolated cases, we don't know about it, but it's still a little bit important.

Also, compared to our world, they don't have wars; they know the concept, of course, but is there a war going on right now? No, we would have heard of it. They probably don't have social inequalities as important as ours.... compared to our world, it's soft. I mean, really.

[silvadel 1,393]

Well in general, Equestria IS a nicer place. Although bare in mind. Equestria is only one continent on a planet and the show as implied many times that all is not well outside its borders for ponykind.

 

 Equestria just as the luxury of having a ruler who actually gives a real shit about her subjects. There are almost no real human leaders in the world that do that. Simply because kind, caring people cannot get though the cesspit that is the political system. 

 

Actually PONYVILLE seems to be a nicer place, and small towns in our world can have that kind of sheen as well.  When we get glimpses of the cities like Manehattan, Cloudsdale, or Canterlot, we see a lot more of the issues that are more often seen in the real world.

 

In Ponyville's case it is that small town 1950s atmosphere.

Edited November 24, 2015 by silvadel

[ManaMinori 4,146]

Because equstria is perfect. It's a World were evil is defeated even if the evil is victorious, it's a place were there is no war, no riticule beyond childish squabbles, and best of all, it's got magic!!!! If that's not the definition of a fantasy utopia then I don't know what is!!!

if it truly wer a perfect utopia, then evil and squabbles wouldn't exist there at all. But they do, so by logic, it's not perfect

It's largely a case of 'first glances' and a lot of the fanbase having been here since S1 when Equestria definitely seemed more like a paradise than reality showed. In the end after a few dark villains and certain philsophical questions that perfect image is falling, but I think it's easy to see why it is seen as a Utopia.

 

Again; first glances.

ironically, witn as much as people claim to be turned off by gen3, it's more of a paradise than g4 is. No villains, no disagreements between ponies, just friendship and laughter, and peace.

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,162]

if it truly wer a perfect utopia, then evil and squabbles wouldn't exist there at all. But they do, so by logic, it's not perfect

ironically, witn as much as people claim to be turned off by gen3, it's more of a paradise than g4 is. No villains, no disagreements between ponies, just friendship and laughter, and peace.

 

Outside of the quality issues that G3 has (opinion varies on that), I think the main reason why some would be turned off by the utopian feel of G3 is that is can be seen as boring or static. While admittedly G4 is more dangerous, there also looks to be growth and progression that can feel more fulfilling.

 

At least that is how I see it.

[L1ghtn1ng_Flash 213]

if it truly wer a perfect utopia, then evil and squabbles wouldn't exist there at all. But they do, so by logic, it's not perfect

ironically, witn as much as people claim to be turned off by gen3, it's more of a paradise than g4 is. No villains, no disagreements between ponies, just friendship and laughter, and peace.

Although a perfect utopia is supposed to be apsolutly perfect, by the very nature of Balence, it is unrealalistic and imposible to ever create, as by the laws of Physical nature, you can not have order with out chaos, and vise versa, the Chinese understood this and created the symbol Yin-Yang to embodie this very fact of nature, the law of Balence is one thing that cannot be Underminded and forgotten, therefor Equestria is not only a utopia, but also a place where The laws of nature are in complete Balence, Also the reason why it makes sense for there to be such drastic changes when Evil is awoken in equestria, is because of their Damn peace, the only conflict during peace is that of bullies and Politics, so in Order for the universe to Exsist, Balence must be kept, so the universe Alows Great Evil to Exist, not only that, But for Those Who Have Read Rainbow Factory, that Place Could very well be the closest thing to being cannon without actualy being Cannon that this Fandom Has ever created, that Facility could very well exist in the show, if not for it being rated G I have no doubt that someone would create Something like The Rainbow Factory and place it in the Show its self and it would Make sense. Universal Balence is what keeps everyone Alive and In existence, without it, we would almost certainly have Destroy our selfs long ago when we first started being sentient, with in a day we would all Cease to exist.

[cmarston1 5,960]

Because of the nature of the show and it's rating we don't get to see any of the cruel reality from real life in the show.

And therefore the view of equestria as utopia is formed.

[Jammo 986]

I don't know about you guys, but if a giant red demon centaur came and wrecked my shit, I'd miss my cozy lifestyle and playstation pretty quickly.

[silvadel 1,393]

I don't know about you guys, but if a giant red demon centaur came and wrecked my shit, I'd miss my cozy lifestyle and playstation pretty quickly.

 

It was more than that -- he robbed the essence of the ponies.  That would be far worse than him breaking your stuff.

[AlbaTross 1,586]

In my personal headcanon, the needs of all ponies in Equestria are provided for. I believe most, if not all land across Equestria is owned by the crown, and that there's a rent in kind/labour in place. I think ponies live somewhere free of charge and receive a monthly living dividend in exchange for providing an unpaid service to the community that matches their personal talents. Technically, I think mayors are the ones who oversee their individual communities and appeal to Princess Celestia, acting as advisors of sorts for the allocation of land and housing, but Princess Celestia does technically have the final say, as evidenced in how quickly and easily she was able to have Twilight put up in the Golden Oak Library at the start of season 1, though I doubt she makes use of that power often.

 

Ponies who make money off of their service in the form of products that can be sold probably receive less of a dividend each month or none at all, and that may also be relative to the amount of land allocated to an individual pony or family, hence why the Apples still need to sell a lot to keep their farm, and they probably also pay rent in kind by exporting some of their apples. I think it is also possible for a select few really wealthy ponies, such as the Richs, to purchase their homes from the crown, but I doubt it's any more common than it is in Russia in our world.

 

In short, I think the reason why there is no homelessness poverty or hunger in Equestria is because the system provides the needs of ponies regardless, except for those who don't belong to a particular town and/or have chosen a wanderer lifestyle, as they would be hard to keep tabs on. That also explains why even young fillies can have their own homes; it's not that they're somehow able to afford them, but that they don't have to. I'm sure few colts and fillies actually do live on their own, but the crown can put them up somewhere if they don't have a family to live with, in the hopes that they will give back to the community once they do discover their talents.

 

People like Equestria because the stress of making ends meet seems to be absent in all but a select few cases. Ponies are more able to live their dreams, as the system recognizes talent more so than unskilled labour. It's also worth noting that there is an absence of large corporations. At most, there are small businesses that can employ a very small labour force, but it's likely that those ponies are there because that is the best fit for them. In general, ponies also have more time to spend with friends and enjoying life, as I doubt the vast majority are on any kind of 9 to 5 system. Alienation that is present in our world seems to be minimal in Equestria. Sure, I don't think it's a perfect world, but it is an example of how much better our world could be.

[ManaMinori 4,146]

It was more than that -- he robbed the essence of the ponies.  That would be far worse than him breaking your stuff.

I would still take that over war, homelessness, poverty,shootings, calousness and disregard for life, corrupt worldwide world leaders, and everthing else going on irl

Everything with TIREK was resolved in a few hours

[Gestum 2,493]

Because some people wants a fantasy world that they can escape into and they choose Equestria as that world.

[silvadel 1,393]

I would still take that over war, homelessness, poverty,shootings, calousness and disregard for life, corrupt worldwide world leaders, and everthing else going on irl

Everything with TIREK was resolved in a few hours

 

Was it now?  I think there was a lot more than a few hours between when he drained his first unicorn and when he got the rainbow power hit down.