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To me, it would be inconsistent characterizations. I know that sometimes it's necessary to have a character act out of their character in order to tell a coherent story, but it seems a little excessive sometimes.


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Agreed, I personally would love to see a CMC spin-off show.

 

I'm also not a fan of when the show has the mane six being the only protectors of Equestira and showing that without them it will become a lifeless wasteland. Which is why I dislike Magical Mystery Cure and The Cutie Remark.

 

It bothered me how the world was shown to be terrible, or dead without them, like nobody else could have possibly saved it but them. The comics had the decency to show a different set of characters that could have done it. 

 

Yeah, pretty much why I don't spin it that way in my head with mention of destiny being more of a fancy term for their worked for future.  (Edit: and cutie marks being something a little more malleable that could maybe even change given a large enough shift in a pony's life.)  I wouldn't say Twilight doesn't deserve what she has but she sure as heck shouldn't be the only one of the group to get it and in a way we see a shadow of that with them getting their own thrones in the castle but I won't be completely satisfied until they all get their alicorn ascensions.  They deserve it... though I can also see the advantages of letting them have more time to live their lives normally first. 

 

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The show makes it clear that Twilight was destined for the absurdly amazing life she has, her cutie mark is even on important artifacts to remind us of how special she is. The princesses sing a song about it, and they give us a speech glorifying Twilight, it was her destiny. Twilight didn't work for everything she has, she sat on her ass getting friendship lessons while reading in her free library home with her servant, while her friends actually work to make a living. They also played a role, Twilight would have failed without them and vise versa, they were all meant to be a piece of the whole. They made the efforts and accomplishments of the mane six into Twilight's own personal achievement, and she receives godhood. 

 

I doubt her friends will ever receive anything even remotely close to what Twilight has, it's not their destiny to be great. 

 

Upon retrospect, the show reminds me of why I hate this concept so much. I don't root for Twilight to win, because she already has. 

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There is only one thing I really hate about MLP and no, it is not the theme song. I HATE Equestria Girls with a passion. I just read a transcript of Equestria Girls instead of forcing my self to sit through that terrible spin-off series.


 

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The show makes it clear that Twilight was destined for the absurdly amazing life she has, her cutie mark is even on important artifacts to remind us of how special she is. The princesses sing a song about it, and they give us a speech glorifying Twilight, it was her destiny. Twilight didn't work for everything she has, she sat on her ass getting friendship lessons while reading in her free library home with her servant, while her friends actually work to make a living. They also played a role, Twilight would have failed without them and vise versa, they were all meant to be a piece of the whole. They made the efforts and accomplishments of the mane six into Twilight's own personal achievement, and she receives godhood. 

 

I doubt her friends will ever receive anything even remotely close to what Twilight has, it's not their destiny to be great. 

 

Upon retrospect, the show reminds me of why I hate this concept so much. I don't root for Twilight to win, because she already has. 

 

I'm not so certain.  It is clear it is Celestia's view of how things work and the nation seems to have largely followed that but I'm not so certain ever pony follows her philosophy, even if Twilight does.  As for Twilight not working?  Well we don't really see much more of her day to day life.  True, as a student she seemed to have all her expenses handled but we still know little of just how much she was simply given or if she had to take up small part time jobs or assist in other ways, perhaps being a lab assistant or librarian as part of her obligations.  In Ponyville she did run the library and I'm certain that included all the responsibilities of a real librarian.  In addition many of the tasks she has taken up have been invaluable to Equestria as a whole.  Her contributions have in no way been conventional but that doesn't translate to inconsequential, at least not to me. 

 

As for Twilight having 'won'?  I have to again disagree.  Life doesn't just stop after a few major achievements.  Rainbow Dash has finally joined the Wonderbolts, Rarity has her booteek in Canterlot and the CMC have their cutie marks but that  doesn't mean they've 'won'.  Their lives go on as does Twilight's. 

 

And the show writers... maybe they won't give such a thing to Twilight's friends but I will still dream if they do not... and write. 


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ALL THE ALICORNS. I mean, there's how many, 5?!?!? You have Luna, Celestia, Cadence, Twilight, and now the newest member Flurry Heart! And with all the alicorn OCs, there's like a million alicorns! And just like ILoveKimPossibleALot said, "When everybodys super, no one will be.".

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Applejack, sorry, She is just the weakest link of the mane six and therefore of the entirety of the show, the staff has no real idea what to do with her as is shown in various of episodes where they are forcing her into conflicts to create an episode around her, because they have to. The problem is there isn't much of to go on from her, she is the straight man, sadly she isn't really good one and her role as that often becomes confused. To the point where she barely classifies as the straight man in certain episodes.

 

Her family is more interesting than her, Applebloom and Big Mac that is, that one episode where Big Mac confessed his feelings under a tree was much more than Applejack EVER gave us in five years of this show running, that is a problem. Applebloom a character who is a child has gone through much more than Applejack.

 

For comparison:

 

We see Pinkie Pie put her trust to her friends (Party Of One)

We see Pinkie Pie get over her pride for the sake of other happiness even if it means getting out of something she would love. Showing us how strong her "Element of Laughter" really is. (Pinkie Pride)

We see Pinkie realize she cannot force every one to be friends with her or with certain other people she likes (Maud Pie, Friend in Deed)

 

Much more to name about Pinkie Pie but we'll move on.

 

We see Twilight Sparkle realizing the importance of friendship throughout the series, we see her growth constantly over the seasons, from being the student to becoming the teacher which she struggles with. We see Twilight the one who didn't care for friendship become THE princess of friendship. We see her face her past mistakes and fixing them.

 

Much more to Twilight than I could name, but we'll move on.

 

We see Rarity embrance her generosity as series goes on, realizing that other's greed shouldn't get to her own good, we see her realizing her dreams of opening up various shops around Canterlot and expanding her business while dealing with her younger sister and their differences.

 

Much more to say about Rarity but we'll move on.

 

 

Rainbow Dash throughout the series became much more sensetive to her friends, became much more honest to them, do you think S1 Dash would admit to their friends that wonderbolts came her a nick name "Rainbow Crash"? No. But she is slowly becoming much more open with them, we see her growth.

 

Much more to say about Rainbow Dash, but we'll move on.

 

 

Fluttershy started out as a shy (obviously) person who had problems in almost every situation, yet in S6 we see her being assertive towards her brother, not taking anything from him.

 

Much more to say about Fluttershy.....

 

Applejack?...She has gone nowhere in full of six seasons, she might have been in a lot of episodes, more than Twilight if you look at numbers, but this says absolutely nothing about her character growth, she is an incosistant character most of the time just to make various episodes happen. She may be a good role model, she may be a good person, but that doesn't make her a good character: Because she isn't.

 

 

So, Applejack, sorry

 

replace her with Maud.

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ALL THE ALICORNS. I mean, there's how many, 5?!?!? You have Luna, Celestia, Cadence, Twilight, and now the newest member Flurry Heart! And with all the alicorn OCs, there's like a million alicorns! And just like ILoveKimPossibleALot said, "When everybodys super, no one will be.".

I don't understand why people are insisting that five Alicorns on a planet of who knows how many millions is way too many. Also, how are you counting things fans made up as something you don't like about the show? Alicorn OC's have nothing to do with the series.

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ALL THE ALICORNS. I mean, there's how many, 5?!?!? You have Luna, Celestia, Cadence, Twilight, and now the newest member Flurry Heart! And with all the alicorn OCs, there's like a million alicorns! And just like ILoveKimPossibleALot said, "When everybodys super, no one will be.".

I can see where it is going, but yup ~ fan-works have nothing to do with the show. (But I generally agree, that OC alicorns are a mistake, because it's quite against the rules in the show)

Though I agree, that with time, there are more and more alicorns. In my opinion, only Celestia and Luna should be alicorns due to having extremely important roles (being like 'Gods'), nopony else, especially not Princess Cadence.

 

Also Princess Celestia being sooooooooooooo weak, that she always asks Twilight for help is weird, though it is understandable, that seeing Celestia solve all problems in mere seconds would be boring.


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Overuse of villain reformation is one thing: I think they go way overboard on redeeming everyone in the show. I LIKE antagonists and nemesis. It works well and is a good dynamic. But they just keep chucking out reformations left and right.

Next up, the two parters have gone from being about the mane six to being glorified Twilight sparkle episodes: and do not trot out the "Twilight gets less normal episodes" excuse, because S5 she had just as many, S3 she had just as many, and S6 she's had just as many (co-starring with Starlight). Its rather annoying, though not unexpected: when they got rid of the EOH and made twilight an alicorn they both increased twilight's importance to the universe by several magnitudes while also removing the one thing that guaranteed the others a spot of importance.

 

 

Remove Twilight and her stupid clone from the show and it would be at least a hundred times better. I'd rather watch Zephyr Breeze than another second of them.

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I'm not so vehement about it, but I will agree, I detest Starlight glimmer, and have found Twilight to be more and more detrimental to the show since S3.
Its rather annoying that, at this point, if the other 5 are anything BUT a cameo in the two parters its viewed as a MIRACLE. Like, seriously, The S5 finale was a Twilight/Starlight solo episode, and the other 5 were barely present in the crystaling. And lets not even get started on Friendship games in EQG >.<


Twilight can be good when used properly, like in saddle and row review, but Damn if she can't be bad for things too.

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There are 3 things I hate:

 

1: Equestria Girls.

 

2: The Theme Song.

 

3: Snips and Snails.

Agreed to the theme. I'm sorry, but I just do not care for it, and no matter how many people defend it as being "part of the series" I will never stop wishing it would go away >.<

 

 

 

 

The fact that only Twilight's development ever seems to go anywhere. The rest of the mane five seem to move at a snail's pace in comparison. Twilight became an alicorn princess in half the time Rainbow Dash was able to become a Wonderbolt. 

 

I also hate how Applejack, Pinkie, and Fluttershy never received any goals to work toward. They definitely feel like they're in stagnation at this point. 

Add onto that, we got newbie dash for Dash's "Finally becomes a wonderbolt episode". Seriously. I cannot stress how bad of an episode that was. It'd be like if Princess twilight was about Twilight fucking up constantly and being a terrible princess but she had potential so she was allowed to remain one.

 

 

I know, right?  They don't have to be huge goals but giving them a reason to do what they're doing would be more interesting.

 

 

Anyways, onto them not having goals (as clover and greenflare pointed out). Yeah, this is a BIG problem for AJ, pinkie and fluttershy at this point. If the series only ran for about 2-3 seasons, it wouldn't have been such a problem, since they could do episodes about just introducing them and who they are without growing stale. But at this point, having a lack of a Goal SERIOUSLY hamstrings them in what the staff can do with them; AJ's practically got half her episodes being about her FAMILY not her.

One of my favorite of the IDW comics is the Mayor mare/AJ comic because it actually focuses on the fact that AJ has no ambitions in her life, points out that she would be qualified for alot more than she's doing, and gives a fairly logical reason why she might want to try and branch out someday for that reason.

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Starlight Glimmers presence in season six.  :blink:  I don't dislike her as a character or anything, but her inclusion in this season just seems kind of pointless to me. There are better villains that they could've chosen to develop further instead. 

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Character stagnation. It's getting better, but recent seasons of the show have often felt like the main characters aren't growing at all. Given that these characters are why I watch in the first place, it's disappointing to see them get stuck in place and not move forward. 

 

I dislike the show playing it safe in general, but I also dislike when it has an ambitious idea that's compromised by the running time. There's points where what the show is going for just doesn't seem to fit into the episode itself, and it's those episodes that I find the most frustrating, because they have a lot of great ideas and admirable bits, but they're not fully realized and are obviously diminished. 

 

In addition, I wish that it would introduce fewer new characters and focus on the ones we already have. I appreciate season 6's change in focus towards more character-driven stories, because it goes a long way to correct the main character stagnation of the previous two seasons. 

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The show likes to introduce new things and immediately forget about them, or never expand on it. Celestia has Blueblood and Cadance as a niece and nephew, but we never hear about if there's a genuine royal bloodline past Cadence. Sombra comes and goes and his time stasis is like it never existed, Tirek and his brother's past are mentioned in passing, the origins and history of Equestria are terribly lacking, and the Buffalo are now entirely irrelevant. Heck, the only recurring species are the griffons, donkeys, and dragons. That leaves the zebras, Saddle Arabians, Yaks, and Breezies without a second mention. There are multiple settings, regions, and cities on the world map that are never seen, and the Everfree (castle included!) are even starting to fade out.

 

The writers need to come back and expand instead of just throwing out more promising-yet-abandoned ideas. I'm hoping these're covered by the movie, but that's a faint hope at best.

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One of the show’s problems is that it constantly makes new characters that are either similar to older characters or are only going to appear for one episode. I have no problem with seeing new characters once in a while, but I would rather they focus more on the ones that need more screen time and character development.

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Most of the setting in the show takes place in Ponyville, Canterlot, Manehattan and the Crystal Empire. I want to see new places that the show clearly mention by name or by reference. Places like Saddle Arabia, Trottingham, Las Pegasus, Yayakistan, Fillydelphia, Maretonia and many others are simply not shown enough. So much potential to showcase the MLP world and it's different cultures.

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For me it's the lack of actual, ongoing storylines.

 

Season 3 seemed to be getting there by having the box and the episodes where the mane-six all earned their keys to it peppered in leading up to it being opened in the finale, but they seemed to have backtracked and not done anymore actual story arcs.

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For me it's the lack of actual, ongoing storylines.

 

Season 3 seemed to be getting there by having the box and the episodes where the mane-six all earned their keys to it peppered in leading up to it being opened in the finale, but they seemed to have backtracked and not done anymore actual story arcs.

Much as I wish they could, they just can't have a serialized narrative. Discovery Family wants the ability to rerun episodes in any order, so every episode has to be self-contained. It's a significant constraint this show has to deal with.

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The intro is the thing I hate the most, besides that there's nothing I really hate about the show itself but I do hate how people act when they hear older people watch the show. I'd like to be more open in the fact that I watch the show but it's hard.


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I guess i dislike that its the only 'feminine' thing guys seem to be okay with liking a lot of the time O.o

 

but i don't really dislike anything about it outside that pretty much. its an awesome show^^


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I changed my name again cuz lately fluttershy has been more my favorite pony :3 I like her innocence, and I think I may get active in the fluttershy fan club. I really like a lot of the other main 6 too though.

I'm also a FlutterDash supporter.

I still love Korrina from pokemon a lot and plan on keeping my Korrina profile for now :P

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