(premiere/finale) Do you think they were...lighter than others?

[Drunkfrank 1,125]

The premiere and finale of season 6 were not my favorite two parters, although the finale is far better than the premiere imo. But compared to past seasons, do you feel like the episodes were, lighter in tone and action than others?

 

I certainly do.

 

The premiere didn't actually have a threat, well it did, but it felt forced in my opinion. The finale had a major threat and had an arc about defeating them, but it felt downplayed compared to others, even the very same threat back in season 2?

 

 

When I first thought of this my first instict was to think "Josh Haber is pushing the show more towards the exclusive little girls side and not the whole family/disney side" Well... no. I then thought of the Cutie Remark and Friendship games, the darkest eqg and the darkest finale (or at least tied for darkest)

 

 

DO you agree with me about the finale and premiere of season 6 being a bit downplayed and lighter than past seasons? Or not? Explain.

 

 

As a side note this sort of ties in with my biggest issue of the season, besides some key episodes none of the writers (especially new ones) seem to know what kind of era mlp is, fantasy leaning towards medieval with a good mythos and lore. The show may be slice of life, but it is set in a very fantastical world that could and should be explored more.

Edited October 15, 2016 by ryanmahaffe

[Megas 28,138]

I actually wish they would be more subdued and downplayed. I'd like for once to have a premiere/finale to be a SoL instead of a big epic adventure. I haven't liked any of the finales in recent memory while I still Consider Best Night Ever to be one of the shows best episodes

[Drunkfrank 1,125]

I actually wish they would be more subdued and downplayed. I'd like for once to have a premiere/finale to be a SoL instead of a big epic adventure. I haven't liked any of the finales in recent memory while I still Consider Best Night Ever to be one of the shows best episodes

I wouldn't mind that as long as mid season episodes be less Sol and more adventure

[BastementSparkle 20,335]

Can't really agree here, the premiere was pretty lighthearted compared to previous ones for sure, but I think it was a nice change of pace. Certainly less exciting than normal but the focus on the characters made up for it.

 

 As for the finale, some of that stuff there was honestly pretty creepy. Chrysalis's entrance for one was disturbing, with her climbing down and spinning her head around like that. Not to mention the scene with Discord and all the Fluttershy's was pretty messed up. Chrysalis tossed Starlight around a bit too, that throw into the wall looked pretty painful.

 

 Sure, it wasn't the most action-packed finale, but it had some surprisingly dark moments.

[cider float 2,539]

The premiere and finale of season 6 were not my favorite two parters, although the finale is far better than the premiere imo. But compared to past seasons, do you feel like the episodes were, lighter in tone and action than others?

 

I certainly do.

 

The premiere didn't actually have a threat, well it did, but it felt forced in my opinion. The finale had a major threat and had an arc about defeating them, but it felt downplayed compared to others, even the very same threat back in season 2?

 

 

When I first thought of this my first instict was to think "Josh Haber is pushing the show more towards the exclusive little girls side and not the whole family/disney side" Well... no. I then thought of the Cutie Remark and Friendship games, the darkest eqg and the darkest finale (or at least tied for darkest)

 

 

DO you agree with me about the finale and premiere of season 6 being a bit downplayed and lighter than past seasons? Or not? Explain.

 

 

As a side note this sort of ties in with my biggest issue of the season, besides some key episodes none of the writers (especially new ones) seem to know what kind of era mlp is, fantasy leaning towards medieval with a good mythos and lore. The show may be slice of life, but it is set in a very fantastical world that could and should be explored more.

Yeah Season 6 seems really off like it's missing something. There's just not much weight into the whole season but it's what I did expect the turn out to be.

 

 

The finale was ok though. Surprising since the four main characters in that were the ones I hated the most.

 

[Drunkfrank 1,125]

Yeah Season 6 seems really off like it's missing something. There's just not much weight into the whole season but it's what I did expect the turn out to be.

 

 

The finale was ok though. Surprising since the four main characters in that were the ones I hated the most.

 

That's a good way of putting it

 

I mean, there hasn't been any jaw dropping moments this season, I would still say it was really good though.

Can't really agree here, the premiere was pretty lighthearted compared to previous ones for sure, but I think it was a nice change of pace. Certainly less exciting than normal but the focus on the characters made up for it.

 

 As for the finale, some of that stuff there was honestly pretty creepy. Chrysalis's entrance for one was disturbing, with her climbing down and spinning her head around like that. Not to mention the scene with Discord and all the Fluttershy's was pretty messed up. Chrysalis tossed Starlight around a bit too, that throw into the wall looked pretty painful.

 

 Sure, it wasn't the most action-packed finale, but it had some surprisingly dark moments.

The chrysalis scene was creepy sure.

But in my opinion it didn't do anything that surprising

 

S4 premiere: Celestia V NMM

S5 Premiere: Well...the whole thing

S4 Finale: Twilight vs Tirek

S5 Finale: Most of it, but especially the Desolate wasteland moment.

 

S2 premiere/finale: Brand new villains and (for the finale) Like the first major action sequence.

 

While I think in terms of storytelling the s6 finale is about on par with the rest, it didn't do anything to get my heart racing like almost every other two parter.

 

Probably because it was far more character focused. Which is fine, I just hope they don't do that for all future two parters.

[BastementSparkle 20,335]

 

 

But in my opinion it didn't do anything that surprising

 

It was a two-parter focused entirely on secondary characters, instead of the Mane Six. Might not have been that surprising if you were spoiled, but it's certainly something unique. Actually going to the Changeling hive, which is something I've seen people want for a while was a treat too. 

 

 But, you seem mostly focused on action sequences here, I get ya. Like you said, this episode was far more character focused, that doesn't really make it "Lighter" though. Honestly, I got more chills from moments here than I have in most past episodes.

 

 

 

Which is fine, I just hope they don't do that for all future two parters.

 

I doubt it, this finale makes me feel like they wanted to try something really new, instead of just doing what we'd have expected of them. I imagine that next season, either the two-parters will be back to business as usual...or we'll get something unexpected in a different way. 

[Drunkfrank 1,125]

It was a two-parter focused entirely on secondary characters, instead of the Mane Six. Might not have been that surprising if you were spoiled, but it's certainly something unique. Actually going to the Changeling hive, which is something I've seen people want for a while was a treat too. 

 

 But, you seem mostly focused on action sequences here, I get ya. Like you said, this episode was far more character focused, that doesn't really make it "Lighter" though. Honestly, I got more chills from moments here than I have in most past episodes.

 

 

 

 

I doubt it, this finale makes me feel like they wanted to try something really new, instead of just doing what we'd have expected of them. I imagine that next season, either the two-parters will be back to business as usual...or we'll get something unexpected in a different way. 

I guess lighter was mostly referring to the premiere.

 

I guess we are getting a "LOTR with ponys" next year with the movie so I shouldnt be to concerned with slightly lighter two parters  

[Foxy Socks 2,603]

I agree with the premiere, but definitely not the finale. Just because of no obvious "action scenes" doesn't make it lighter.

[The Nth Doctor 664]

I just wish the Season had focused more on what the Premier was setting up, mainly Starlight's character growth, which then proceeded to go back to square one during her "Lesson Zero" episode. Not to mention they did nothing to help with Starlight's social anxiety and trying to make friends

 

That's something Season Five did as well, with the Cutie Map

 

"Ooh, a map of Equestria. Maybe we'll see new places?"

 

NOPE!

[cmarston1 5,964]

I haven't seen the finale yet, so I can't comment on it, but I really do believe that the premiere was a lot lighter than the others.

While I don't hate it or even dislike it, I did find it to be a bit underwhelming and dull at some points.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

The premiere is the dullest (the best part is Starlight, but they should cut that part and make it an episode). The finale were lighter than others, yes, but i prefer it over Twilight's Kingdom.

[SunsetBaconDrive 169]

I actually do prefer To Where and Back Again over Twilight's Kingdom as odd as that sounds. I found the season 6 finale to be a balanced blend of action and story telling, where the four heroes had their mini arcs. And 2  other characters had character development we have been craving for. The only season finale I don't care for is Cutie Re-Mark, that was a finale with simply good ideas that were shoe horned into a compilation of stories.  

 

The Crystaling was the worst premiere and I do prefer Princess Twilight Sparkle(arguably another lack luster premiere) 

[Drunkfrank 1,125]

I agree with the premiere, but definitely not the finale. Just because of no obvious "action scenes" doesn't make it lighter.

For the record, I do not think it was lighter just because of less action scenes.

 

I also feel both of them lacked that "one" scene that is dramatic and tense. Not just fight scenes.

 

For Season 3 it was Celestias ballad

For Season 4 it was Twilight vs Tirek and Lunas transformation (not the following fight scene)

For season 5 it was the cutie mark stealing and the Desolate wasteland moment

 

Season 6 premiere didn't have any of that, and the closes the finale comes is the second Luna dream, which, while done well, doesn't compare in my personal opinion

 

Doesn't take away from the finale being a 9/10 in my books but still my thoughts

[The MegaBrony 219]

Yes. That was a relatively boring finale after S4's Dragon Ball Z fight and S5's Bad Futures.

[Sonic5421 429]

I really enjoyed the Season 6 premiere myself, mainly due to the Royal Family being the ones to save the day for once alongside Starlight and Sunburst instead of the Mane Six, but I did not enjoy the Season 6 finale with how they treated the Royal Family and Elements of Harmony there with being kidnapped and captured by Chrysalis, leaving them out of action for majority of the finale so it could focus on Starlight, Trixie, Thorax, and Discord. It was a risky gamble that, in my honest opinion, failed horribly.

 

Worse, only Luna appeared in the first part, with a mention of the other Royals so we don't forget them, then when we get to see all of them, they are helpless, trapped in cocoons and unable to escape until Chrysalis' Swarm turned on her, destroyed her throne, and freed the very same ponies whom they had been ordered to kidnap only a few hours, if not a couple of days, ago. Worse still, Celestia only gets a couple of lines of dialogue speaking to Thorax and then suggesting they head home at the end of the second part, while Luna had a few lines in both parts, including while trying to fight off her own kidnappers while warning Starlight of the threat.

 

I'm generally getting fed up with the way the writers are treating the Royal Family like crap lately and hope that things change for the better for them in the Season 7 premiere.

[M'gann M'orzz 745]

The opener was just different, like regardless of the subjective quality of it, it was more of a character focused somewhat slice of lifeish 2 parter than most are.

 

 

The finale though, there might not have been a big long fight, but it was as serious as pretty as most of them, the S5 opener doesn't have a big fight ether but do people call THAT lighter? Plus Chrysalis in particular got some legitimately creepy moments.

Edited October 17, 2016 by M'gann M'orzz

[Thrond 3,271]

Oh, absolutely, though in different ways. The premiere isn't lighter in tone, but it is less plot-heavy, and the finale is both pretty lean in plot and not especially serious. If I recall correctly, almost an entire half of "The Crystalling" is an outright slice-of-life episode, and even the big threat to Equestria is more focused on how characters reacted to it than any villain, mainly because there is no villain. The finale is a whole lot more conventional, but it's story is little other than an excuse to have four different characters in a leading role, and it's a whole lot more comedic and character-driven than the last couple of finales. Both have almost nothing in the way of action scenes, which to me seems like the right direction for this show - I'm not sure why anyone would want My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic to be action-heavy, and I think the fewer action scenes there are, the better. So yes, I do think these two-parters were lighter, but that's why I liked them.

[Unlikeable Pony 2,700]

Yes. That was a relatively boring finale after S4's Dragon Ball Z fight and S5's Bad Futures.

Sadly, I'm starting to think we'll NEVER get anything approaching the level of epicness that was the S4 finale's fight scene. Even in the upcoming movie I doubt we'll get it topped, given how things have been going

 

 

Also, sadly, I doubt we'll ever see the crystal war timeline again.