ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said: The man having to pay for child support also falls under this rule. No child support is totally different. Taking half of things during a divorce is actually fair if you care about what the spirit of it means. Because a relationship is SUPPOSED to be an equal partnership in which the assets do in fact belong equally to both parties. But it’s become a problem because the world is so infested with unscrupulous people that try to take advantage of it. But child support? No, that is, and should always be, a thing that exists. Both parties helped bring that kid into the world, both parties should financially support said kid. If the kid is being housed and cared for primarily by one parent, the other should chip in with cash. Again there are examples of sentient human scum that try to use it to benefit themselves rather than the child, but don’t punish future generations of kids because of them. Edited March 28, 2018 by ShadOBabe 1 Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said: No child support is totally different. Taking half of things during a divorce is actually fair if you care about what the spirit of it means. Because a relationship is SUPPOSED to be an equal partnership in which the assets do in fact belong equally to both parties. But it’s become a problem because the world is so infested with unscrupulous people that try to take advantage of it. But child support? No, that is, and should always be, a thing that exists. Both parties helped bring that kid into the world, both parties should financially support said kid. If the kid is being housed and cared for primarily by one parent, the other should chip in with cash. Again there are examples of human scum that try to use it to benefit themselves rather than the child, but don’t punish future generations of kids because of them. I was merely saying that since some parents (mothers especially?) can exploit the system by having a child with their husband and then divorcing the husband. In fact, I recall a couple of cases of men having to pay child support for a child they didn't even know existed because they donated at a, well, a "seed bank", if you catch my drift. Plus, what if one partner was abuse to the other partner, and the victim (or maybe the oppressor) called for a divorce. I don't think they should pay half their money to someone who abused them, but that's just me. My suggestion? Don't get married. And no, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you meet someone that you love but both parties decide to not get married, there is no unwritten law where two people who are in love but who are not married to each other cannot be together. Having children is another matter. But if I were to create an ideal "system", it would go like this: two partners would fall in love, but do not get married. (This does not make them love each other any less, of course.) If they want a child, then adopt one. The world has 7.5 billion people currently in existence. 1) We have enough humans, 2) It's not like the human species would die out if just one or a few people decided to not have children. If anything, a gradual and "natural" decrease in the population could be beneficial. Edited March 28, 2018 by Feather Scribbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Feather Scribbles said: In fact, I recall a couple of cases of men having to pay child support for a child they didn't even know existed because they donated at a, well, a "seed bank", if you catch my drift. Okay if that’s true, then that IS super stupid. Donating sperm to people that can’t conceive naturally shouldn’t tether you to the resulting potential kids. They aren’t yours. I don’t know much about that particular branch of medicine, but I cannot imagine that there is not some kind of legal clause in the paperwork that is supposed prevent that from happening. But again, I know what you were saying, but there are just as many fathers that knock women up and bail on them, leaving the resulting child in the lurch. Either way, I will never support the idea of child support not being a thing. Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said: Okay if that’s true, then that IS super stupid. Donating sperm to people that can’t conceive naturally shouldn’t tether you to the resulting potential kids. They aren’t yours. I don’t know much about that particular branch of medicine, but I cannot imagine that there is not some kind of legal clause in the paperwork that is supposed prevent that from happening. But again, I know what you were saying, but there are just as many fathers that knock women up and bail on them, leaving the resulting child in the lurch. Either way, I will never support the idea of child support not being a thing. Well, technically, they are the male's children. The rule goes that if a male's seed fertilizes a female's egg, then that baby (usually) belongs equally to both parents. (In more recent times however, men have only 10% or less in the say of the child's future.) Thus, if a female becomes pregnant, the seed that belonged to the biological father is connected to the father, and thus even if he never knew the child, he would have to pay for child support. I agree, but it should not be as "open" as it is now. Going back to marriage, there was an idea proposed that the church ultimately turned down. The idea was that when a couple got married, they would sign a contract that would last for 2-3 years. If the contract wasn't renewed in that span of time (aka every 2-3 years), then the marriage would end. Thus, unless one partner was hell-bent in ruining their ex-partner's life (blackmail, murder, etc.), if a couple became unhappy with each other, they could avoid each other, wait for the contract to expire, both ex-partners would get half of their benefits and items, and they would live on their lives without the whole messy way that divorces usually happen. 1 hour ago, DJ_Bonebraker said: I think it should be a fair playing field. Nevertheless, I know I wouldn't want anyone asking me out. That would be creepy. (And in these days, many people take legal action against people that approach them that they find creepy, especially if it is a man.) I'm not being paranoid here, I'm just saying that if you're a male and you like a girl, don't ask her out. Get to know her first. (I believe this should always happen anyway.) Edited March 28, 2018 by Feather Scribbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said: Well, technically, they are the male's children. That’s like saying the kidney I donate to somebody is still my kidney. No, in a case of donating you genetic material to a hospital, what happens to it is no longer your responsibility. And I cannot fathom that that is not in the agreement you sign when you got to donate. EDIT: Just looked it up. A case like the one you were referring to happened in Kansas, and it turns out that the child support thing is determined by which state you live in. BUT ALSO, that particular fool was answering a freakin’ Craigslist add and hand delivered his own sperm to this lesbian couple. He signed an agreement with these ladies, but their were no official medical records because these yahoos didn’t want to pay for the procedure. If they hadn’t been crazy DIY skinflints, then they would have gone to a doctor, and the legal system would have acknowledged that the man had no parental rights or obligations. Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said: That’s like saying the kidney I donate to somebody is still my kidney. No, in a case of donating you genetic material to a hospital, what happens to it is no longer your responsibility. And I cannot fathom that that is not in the agreement you sign when you got to donate. EDIT: Just looked it up. A case like the one you were referring to happened in Kansas, and it turns out that the child support thing is determined by which state you live in. BUT ALSO, that particular fool was answering a freakin’ Craigslist add and hand delivered his own sperm to this lesbian couple. He signed an agreement with these ladies, but their were no official medical records because these yahoos didn’t want to pay for the procedure. If they hadn’t been crazy DIY skinflints, then they would have gone to a doctor, and the legal system would have acknowledged that the man had no parental rights or obligations. Ahh, now I get it. The several articles I read left out those many important details. But what if a female partner doesn't want to "do the act" with the male (aka have sex) but she/they still wants children, and thus she gets his/their seed into her/them via other means (how they do it alternatively, I don't know, and I don't want to)? You can't make a rule like, "If the couple are within 500 metres of each other, the child is also the father's responsibility." What are your thoughts on the mother have the majority of the rights when it comes to children? (Such as being anpe to abort the child without telling her/their male partner/the father, having the option of not allowing the male partner to be with the female partner in the hospital as they give birth, the children going to the mother if a divorce happens (pretty much no matter what the circumstance), even if the father is still alive and well, etc.? Edited March 28, 2018 by Feather Scribbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Feather Scribbles said: Ahh, now I get it. The several articles I read left out those many important details. But what if a female partner doesn't want to "do the act" with the male (aka have sex) but she/they still wants children, and thus she gets his/their seed into her/them via other means (how they do it alternatively, I don't know, and I don't want to)? You can't make a rule like, "If the couple are within 500 metres of each other, the child is also the father's responsibility." What are your thoughts on the mother have the majority of the rights when it comes to children? (Such as being anpe to abort the child without telling her/their male partner/the father, having the option of not allowing the male partner to be with the female partner in the hospital as they give birth, the children going to the mother if a divorce happens (pretty much no matter what the circumstance), even if the father is still alive and well, etc.? Well that’s exactly what happened there. They wanted a child through child birth, and got ahold of a male’s sperm. But they didn’t do it through a doctor, so their was no legal proof that the guy wasn’t just an irresponsible lover that didn’t use protection. So my opinion on that is if you want a guy’s sperm, but don’t want sex with the guy, you pony up the money to go through the actual donation process or suffer the consequences of the legal system. And don’t give strangers on Craigslist containers full of your, ahem, DNA. That last point should be common sense. A lot of those situations have a different answer depending on said situation. But I believe abortion is the murder of a human child, so my opinion on THAT doesn’t give much of a damn what the parents in that situation feel. I could be moved a bit in the case of a rape (but that’s still not an infant’s fault), but most cases aren’t rape. They’re irresponsible people that couldn’t be bothered to keep it in their pants or use protection. And I don’t think the consequences of death should fall on the unborn child for that. So in light of that opinion, if were talking about people that had consensual sex that resulted in a pregnancy, then my favor is going to fall with the parent that doesn’t want to kill the baby. If that is the man, then so be it. Edited March 28, 2018 by ShadOBabe Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadOBabe said: Well that’s exactly what happened there. They wanted a child through child birth, and got ahold of a male’s sperm. But they didn’t do it through a doctor, so their was no legal proof that the guy wasn’t just an irresponsible lover that didn’t use protection. So my opinion on that is if you want a guy’s sperm, but don’t want sex with the guy, you pony up the money to go through the actual donation process or suffer the consequences of the legal system. And don’t give strangers on Craigslist containers full of your, ahem, DNA. That last point should be common sense. Well I believe abortion is the murder of a human child, so my opinion on THAT doesn’t give much of a damn what the parents in that situation feel. I could be moved a bit in the case of a rape (but that still not an infant’s fault), but most cases aren’t rape. They’re irresponsible people that couldn’t be bothered to keep it in their pants or use protection. And I don’t think the consequences of death should fail on the unborn child for that. So in light of that opinion, if were talking about people that had consensual sex that resulted in a pregnancy, then my favor is going to fall with the parent that doesn’t want to kill the baby. If that is the man, then so be it. Sadly, thing's aren't changing in that favor. (The last point you made.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mystic Brush said: that woman cant have any type of body hair. if you dont shave where society thinks you should, youre considered gross and, unsanitary. UGH, I know right?? Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said: UGH, I know right?? And what about men not being allowed to shave their legs and such? I hate my leg hair, but if I ever shave it and anyone finds out, I'll never hear the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Feather Scribbles said: And what about men not being allowed to shave their legs and such? I hate my leg hair, but if I ever shave it and anyone finds out, I'll never hear the end of it. What about it? Both situations suck. You keep acting like this is a contest to prove who has it worse Scribbles. Cut it out. 1 Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said: What about it? Both situations suck. You keep acting like this is a contest to prove who has it worse Scribbles. Cut it out. I'm not trying to make it a contest. I was merely voicing my issues with stereotypes. (I have many issues with stereotypes.) I'll quit posting here for awhile. Edited March 28, 2018 by Feather Scribbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 Just now, Feather Scribbles said: I'm not trying to make it a contest. I was merely voicing my issues with stereotypes. (I have many issues with stereotypes.) I'll quit posting here for awhile. That’s fair, but it seems like every time some girl says something bugs them, you post something along the lines of you saying you wish you could do that. Maybe clarify a bit more that you sympathize with their troubles. 1 Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feather Scribbles 194 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 Just now, ShadOBabe said: That’s fair, but it seems like every time some girl says something bugs them, you post something along the lines of you saying you wish you could do that. Maybe clarify a bit more that you sympathize with their troubles. Alright. I'm just stressed at the moment. I'm taking the night off. I meant no offense to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadOBabe 18,997 March 28, 2018 Share March 28, 2018 Just now, Feather Scribbles said: Alright. I'm just stressed at the moment. I'm taking the night off. I meant no offense to anyone. It’s cool. I think the debating is getting me a little prickly as well. Time for fun stuff! Check out my artwork any time: http://shadobabe.deviantart.com/ "OMG; You are such a troll. XD" - PathfinderCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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