FlareGun45 2,221 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Outta all the times on the show that Spike could've bonded with Twilight's family, it never happened. Twilight does think of Spike as family as shown in Once Upon a Zeppelin, and he returns the favor, but for some reason. he's never really bonding with anyone else in the family. Canterlot Wedding, Twilight has shown to have a relationship with Shining and Cadance, but to think that Spike coulda had a guy friend, like a brotherly figure outta Shining. Twilight was really excited to become an aunt to Flurry Heart, but what is Spike to her other than someone who put her to sleep with his singing? In all things considered though, the little time he had to interacting with Twilight's family, it was mostly asking him for a favor (Princess Spike, Flurry of Emotions), or the hero of the Crystal Empire. I mean it's better than nothing, but still. Is Twilight really the ONLY family he's got? Woulda seemed sweeter if he felt like he had a place within the Sparkle family as a whole. Now that it hasn't happened, it makes me want him to meet his original family even more! At least Scoots now has Rainbow's family to make up for her parent neglection, and she does have aunts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,361 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 (edited) I've read a few fics about Shining treating him like a little brother and/or the parents treating him like a second son. They're adorable AF. Edited January 6, 2018 by A.V. 2 By Emerald.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Canterlot 9,603 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Maybe it's because Twilight's family is RACIST towards dragons *But probably not RA RA RASPUTIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganondorf8 11,314 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Considering that Spike never leaves Twilight's side and that the rest of the family are located elsewhere, they never really get a chance to interact with him as often as Twilight does--which is practically every waking moment barring exceptions. This is just a guess on my part which might not even be close to being correct. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 (edited) We might not see it but you could think of Spike as Twily's son! OR They might just not be ready to have the responsibility of being Grandparents, Aunt, Uncle, Cousin and I don't even think that Twily was ready for the responsibility of being a mother! Edited January 6, 2018 by Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious I don't know why I put grand infront of aunt and uncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainstorm 4,111 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Spike is part of Twilight's family, Twilight did say, "But Spike, you're as much as part of my family as anypony," Spike choose to stay behind to keep the castle up and running. And I'm sure Twilight and Spike went on a small cruise when she returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Brainstorm said: Spike is part of Twilight's family, Twilight did say, "But Spike, you're as much as part of my family as anypony," Spike choose to stay behind to keep the castle up and running. And I'm sure Twilight and Spike went on a small cruise when she returned. I said "They weren't ready for the responsibility for to be called ..." it'd just be awkward to truly bond if he was calling his granny by her name instead of calling her Granny or one of the infinite versions of the word Gran! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainstorm 4,111 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said: I said "They weren't ready for the responsibility for to be called ..." it'd just be awkward to truly bond if he was calling his granny by her name instead of calling her Granny or one of the infinite versions of the word Gran! Oh. I always see Twilight and Spike as Brother and Sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Brainstorm said: Oh. I always see Twilight and Spike as Brother and Sister. remember that Twily hatched Spike with her magic when she was just a filly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Brainstorm said: Oh. I always see Twilight and Spike as Brother and Sister. Same. As a parent who has enough real world comparison, their interactions never come across as mother and son, especially in later seasons. If their intention was to present them like mother and son, then this stands as one of the greatest writing and characterization failures in the entire series. Hell, that would probably negatively impact how I see both characters. Their relationship is closer to Applebloom and Applejack. Big sister who had to take on a slightly more matronly role, but sister nonetheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeric said: Same. As a parent, their interactions never come across as mother and son, especially in later seasons. But he's still Twily's son! Here's proof of that in cannon incase anypone forgot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said: But he's still Twily's son! Here's proof of that in cannon incase anypone forgot! The doctor who delivered my kids isn't my kid's father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Jeric said: The doctor who delivered my kids isn't my kid's father. AND SHE'S RAISED HIM FOR ALL HIS LIIFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said: AND SHE'S RAISED HIM FOR ALL HIS LIIFE A big sister can be an adoptive guardian. Happens often IRL. Heck, Applebloom was raised by a grandmother and two older siblings. But this is neither here not there. Spike doesn't look at Twilight as his mother as evidenced in Winter Wrap Up Like I said, if Twilight is operating as his adoptive mother, and not just as a sisterly guardian, she is either a shit mother or the writers sucked balls at creating this relationship. Pick your poison. Anyway, the actors feel like it's a sibling relationship too so I firmly stand by my belief. But hey, headcannons are cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareGun45 2,221 January 6, 2018 Author Share January 6, 2018 Uh brahs? I'm not talking about Twilight and Spike's relationship though! I'm talking about Spike and Twilight's family - including Shining, Cadance, Flurry, the parents, yunno them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Just now, MegaSean45 said: Uh brahs? I'm not talking about Twilight and Spike's relationship though! I'm talking about Spike and Twilight's family - including Shining, Cadance, Flurry, the parents, yunno them! Organic conversation is organic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeric said: Heck, Applebloom was raised by a grandmother and two older siblings. Actually Applebloom's mother is AJ and her father might be Big Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Just now, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said: Actually Applebloom's mother is AJ and her father might be Big Mac How far have you gotten into the show? Have you seen Season 7 yet? Perfect Pear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jeric said: How far have you gotten into the show? Have you seen Season 7 yet? Perfect Pear? Yes I've seen season 7! Doesn't show that AJ wasn't FORCED to lie to Applebloom about who her parents were Edited January 6, 2018 by Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,361 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 I agree with @Brainstorm and @Jeric. In fact, what was their first onscreen interaction (in the S1 premiere)? Sibling-like bickering. 3 minutes ago, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said: Actually Applebloom's mother is AJ and her father might be Big Mac 2 By Emerald.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 Just now, Sherbertlicious Music-Guardlicious said: Yes I've seen season 7! Doesn't show that AJ wasn't FORCED to lie to Applebloom about who her parents were Ah. So this is the point I take my leave of this conversation. It's been fun though. Now to directly address @MegaSean45 ... I do believe that Twilight Velvet, Shining, and Night Light have a close familial off screen relationship with Spike. The reason we haven't seen it is likely due to narrative efficiency and economy in the scripts. It would be nice to see some other shared dialog between the other family members (we did get some interaction between Cadance and Spike in Princess Spike that came across like a sister chiding him). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareGun45 2,221 January 6, 2018 Author Share January 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jeric said: Ah. So this is the point I take my leave of this conversation. It's been fun though. Now to directly address @MegaSean45 ... I do believe that Twilight Velvet, Shining, and Night Light have a close familial off screen relationship with Spike. The reason we haven't seen it is likely due to narrative efficiency and economy in the scripts. It would be nice to see some other shared dialog between the other family members (we did get some interaction between Cadance and Spike in Princess Spike that came across like a sister chiding him). Well there's always the comics! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hierok 11,831 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 17 hours ago, MegaSean45 said: Outta all the times on the show that Spike could've bonded with Twilight's family, it never happened. Twilight does think of Spike as family as shown in Once Upon a Zeppelin, and he returns the favor, but for some reason. he's never really bonding with anyone else in the family. Canterlot Wedding, Twilight has shown to have a relationship with Shining and Cadance, but to think that Spike coulda had a guy friend, like a brotherly figure outta Shining. Twilight was really excited to become an aunt to Flurry Heart, but what is Spike to her other than someone who put her to sleep with his singing? In all things considered though, the little time he had to interacting with Twilight's family, it was mostly asking him for a favor (Princess Spike, Flurry of Emotions), or the hero of the Crystal Empire. I mean it's better than nothing, but still. Is Twilight really the ONLY family he's got? Woulda seemed sweeter if he felt like he had a place within the Sparkle family as a whole. Now that it hasn't happened, it makes me want him to meet his original family even more! At least Scoots now has Rainbow's family to make up for her parent neglection, and she does have aunts. The reason he was not long in Once Upon A Zepplin was that otherwise Twilight couldn't go. So I think he is, but just offscreen. If I don't understand something or Interpret it wrong, I'm dutch. Sometimes I gamble for meanings of the words. And sometimes I write the wrong words, like week and weak for example. Sorry for it already. Discord, Twilight, Sunset, Fluttershy, Starlight, Rarity, Luna, Celestia, Big MCintosh, Cadence, Shining, Minuette, Lyra, Rara, Sweetie Belle, Cheerilee, Derpy, Spike. !Feel Free To Talk And Walk Where Ever You Like On This Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truffles 2,033 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeric said: It would be nice to see some other shared dialog between the other family members (we did get some interaction between Cadance and Spike in Princess Spike that came across like a sister chiding him). And Shining getting very cross with him over his "joking" about befriending a changeling. As for the topic itself, there really isn't a lot of Twilight's other family members being supportive of Spike which I suppose is why the thread was started. The only thing I can think of is earlier in the same episode where Shining assures Twilight the guards will look after him. In "Equestria Games," Cadance is supportive of Spike, too, but it's more akin to reverence over his role in the Sombra incident and not talking to him like a family member. Hmmm. 1 Are you a Spike fan? Click on the image above for a compendium of nearly every Spike scene in the show! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kaeya Simp 13,988 January 6, 2018 Share January 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeric said: Like I said, if Twilight is operating as his adoptive mother, and not just as a sisterly guardian, she is either a shit mother or the writers sucked balls at creating this relationship. Pick your poison. OFF CAMERA! OFF CAMERA M8! DON'T CALL TWILY A SHIT MUM, SAY SHE IS A BAD MOTHER, DON'T CUSS AT HER BECAUSE ON CAMERA THE WRITERS ARE SHIT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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