Earth ponies are more op than alicorns

[ManaMinori 4,149]

Possibly.

Ok, for years, people have convinced themselves that alicorns are the most ultimate race, and earth ponies are the least. The lowest on the totem pole so to speak. But what if that wasn't the case?  What if the opposite were true? 

 

With the episode "Horse Play", we learn that ponies have words like "antidisestablishmentarianism", which would mean that they believe in a higher power of divine origin (not the royal sisters). What if earth ponies were more easily able to access such power,  that the other races could not? What if, due to them being earth ponies (and a divine power having created the earth for organic life forms), the residual power of the divine's creation is drawn in from the earth, and able to be utilized by only earth ponies?

This would explain why Pinkie can break the 4th wall and have such easy access and sight into other dimensions. This would explain why Treehugger mentions chakras and past lives, as both are gateways to the divine- spiritual energy.  

[Kind Claw 408]

That's a very interesting point and if you want evidence of earth pony power look no further than Pinky Pie and heck even Cheese sandwich can material items out of thin air like a giant cheese wheel and the 'Cheese supreme cannonball surprise' lol there is even evidence of transformation being evident with earth ponies one of the pillars changing (basically going super sayin)  

however I somewhat don't agree (out of opinion) that Earth Ponies are more op than Alicorns however my opinion comes from an equalist pov on a somewhat metaphysical level, it reminds me of an old saying "you are no more or less than who you are and never superior to anybody" 

[Kadeda 178]

Earth ponies are not more op than alicorns... pinkie pie is just more op than everybody.

[SharpWit 2,919]

6 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

With the episode "Horse Play", we learn that ponies have words like "antidisestablishmentarianism", which would mean that they believe in a higher power of divine origin (not the royal sisters).

Antidisestablishmentarianism means opposition to the withdrawal of state support or recognition from an established church. It does not infer a current belief in a higher power, or discount the royal sisters as having been considered deities.

That being said, if earth ponies were on top we'd have to rename them to ponies of steel or something other. They'd have to be ridiculously strong, be practically unaffected by magic, and possibly be able to gallop fast enough to keep up with your average pegasi. They're still limited as they can't fly and magic allows you to do so much more than you can with just your hooves and mouth. When conflict arises, their best bet would be heavy fortifications and trying to use numbers to overwhelm the enemy, eliminating the effectiveness of an enemies attacks by having too many soldiers that can take the hits. They'd still be slower as projects take longer to complete and the best thing about flight isn't so much the speed but the lack of obstacles providing maximum maneuverability. Would expect any earth pony empires to dominate the land.

[ManaMinori 4,149]

53 minutes ago, SharpWit said:

Antidisestablishmentarianism means opposition to the withdrawal of state support or recognition from an established church. It does not infer a current belief in a higher power, or discount the royal sisters as having been considered deities.

That being said, if earth ponies were on top we'd have to rename them to ponies of steel or something other. They'd have to be ridiculously strong, be practically unaffected by magic, and possibly be able to gallop fast enough to keep up with your average pegasi. They're still limited as they can't fly and magic allows you to do so much more than you can with just your hooves and mouth. When conflict arises, their best bet would be heavy fortifications and trying to use numbers to overwhelm the enemy, eliminating the effectiveness of an enemies attacks by having too many soldiers that can take the hits. They'd still be slower as projects take longer to complete and the best thing about flight isn't so much the speed but the lack of obstacles providing maximum maneuverability. Would expect any earth pony empires to dominate the land.

I know what it means. But I was implying that having the word in Equestria would mean that there are churches, and that with churches, there would be a form of religious belief in canon. The earth ponies would simply be known as earth ponies- nothing more and nothing less. They don't need to be renamed to show that they're op, and most certainly don't need to have capabilities that outwardly show that they're able to match up with other races- otherwise, why by unique in that regard at all? Each race has their own abilities- that's the point. All I'm saying is it's highly likely that earth ponies have access to spiritual magic, allowing them to have insight of chakras, otherworldly / divine dimensions, a 6th's sense, ect. possibly drawn from the earth itself. They don't need to outpace a speeding pegasi or out magic Twilight to have powers of a spiritual sort within them and utilize it however they choose. in all of 8 seasons, I've never seen a single earth pony who was a showoff in such a way.

[SharpWit 2,919]

11 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

I know what it means. But I was implying that having the word in Equestria would mean that there are churches, and that with churches, there would be a form of religious belief in canon. The earth ponies would simply be known as earth ponies- nothing more and nothing less. They don't need to be renamed to show that they're op, and most certainly don't need to have capabilities that outwardly show that they're able to match up with other races- otherwise, why by unique in that regard at all? Each race has their own abilities- that's the point. All I'm saying is it's highly likely that earth ponies have access to spiritual magic, allowing them to have insight of chakras, otherworldly / divine dimensions, a 6th's sense, ect. possibly drawn from the earth itself. They don't need to outpace a speeding pegasi or out magic Twilight to have powers of a spiritual sort within them and utilize it however they choose. in all of 8 seasons, I've never seen a single earth pony who was a showoff in such a way.

Apologies, could have sworn I saw a what if to this question. Anyways, Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie, and Tree Hugger is a tree hugger. Nothing to read deeper into that and apply to a whole race that most certainly isn't at the bottom because they're humble.

[Senko 459]

I always saw them as roughly equal. Earth ponies have strength, Pegasi flight and Unicorns magic its why they went to war with each other (as shown in the play about the past) none of the 3 tribes was destroyed afterall if friendship is magic and Earth Ponies have strength of heart from workign together they may well have had access to powers that could counter the unicorns magic. What makes the Alicorn so powerful is they have all 3 races gifts at the same time.

[Lord Valtasar 12,709]

and then there's discord, which could either be the source of that power, or someone who can harness it to its full potential,makes me wonder, maybe he was a biological weapon created in said war.but gone out of control,causing the other races to unite to fight him instead
also, @Senko are we certain that alicorns also have earth pony's strenghth? twilight doesn't seem to have gotten any stronger physically

Edited July 29, 2018 by Lord Valtasar

[Senko 459]

1 hour ago, Lord Valtasar said:

and then there's discord, which could either be the source of that power, or someone who can harness it to its full potential,makes me wonder, maybe he was a biological weapon created in said war.but gone out of control,causing the other races to unite to fight him instead
also, @Senko are we certain that alicorns also have earth pony's strenghth? twilight doesn't seem to have gotten any stronger physically

From what I've seen Earth ponies "magic" isn't necessarily physical strength or even defined. There's also strength of heart or purpose or it could be a connection to the land that's a bit more apparent in recent episodes and the comics (I'm reading those currently).

For instance Pinkie Pie struggles to support her honory yak horns and doesn't really seem any stronger than other ponies unlike Applejack and her element of harmony was originally strength + she's spent years working as a farm pony. Then there's mayor mare who's spent her entire life keeping Ponyville ticking over despite repeated monster attacks and damage and the cakes are both earth ponies but I doubt Mr Cake is all that strong physically. We do know they have some form of magic at least and I can't see Alicorns getting unicorn and pegasi traits but not earth pony ones.

As for twilight's strength she easily supports book bags that fluttershy struggles to handle and there's been a few other incidents where she's seemed to be stronger than you'd expect of a pony.

[SDP40F amtrak 2,448]

On 6/1/2018 at 2:36 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

Possibly.

Ok, for years, people have convinced themselves that alicorns are the most ultimate race, and earth ponies are the least. The lowest on the totem pole so to speak. But what if that wasn't the case?  What if the opposite were true? 

 

With the episode "Horse Play", we learn that ponies have words like "antidisestablishmentarianism", which would mean that they believe in a higher power of divine origin (not the royal sisters). What if earth ponies were more easily able to access such power,  that the other races could not? What if, due to them being earth ponies (and a divine power having created the earth for organic life forms), the residual power of the divine's creation is drawn in from the earth, and able to be utilized by only earth ponies?

This would explain why Pinkie can break the 4th wall and have such easy access and sight into other dimensions. This would explain why Treehugger mentions chakras and past lives, as both are gateways to the divine- spiritual energy.  

Clearly it a opinion than fact or is it 

Edited July 29, 2018 by Thanos

[Jedishy 3,549]

While its an interesting theory its sort of hard to be more OP than people who could: Not raise the sun and thus kill all the food ponies need to live, time travel, age you into feebleness, create shield barries over entire cities etc. 

Though on an interesting note earth ponies power is not strength but a connection to the earth that makes them gifted at working with plants and animals(Source). So the supernatural senses connected to life do make sense in that regard  

[EpicEnergy 23,253]

On ‎6‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 3:36 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

Ok, for years, people have convinced themselves that alicorns are the most ultimate race, and earth ponies are the least. The lowest on the totem pole so to speak. But what if that wasn't the case?  What if the opposite were true? 

I think people and the show make alicorns seem more powerful and higher than they really are. This is true in a few ways, but it is also false as well, and I will talk about both in this comment.

Alicorns have very high political power, with Celestia being the high ruler and the other alicorns as rulers over certain areas of Equestria. Alicorns also have a very special role in Equestria, be it raising the sun or spreading love and light throughout the land. This special role corresponds with their cutie marks, which means that an alicorn’s purpose in life is their special role as an alicorn princess. All of that is what makes an alicorn special.

There are many other areas, on the other hand, that other races in Equestria can be in that makes them just as special and significant as alicorns. I’ll just briefly summarize the main areas, starting with the races’ special abilities: earth ponies have a special connection with the earth and they have great strength, unicorns have a special magical ability, and pegasi have the special ability to fly. All these races have cutie marks that signify what each specific pony’s unique, special, and natural abilities/talents each one has. These natural talents are normally in correspondence with the pony’s race’s ability.

Overall, my point is that each individual pony has something that makes him/her special; therefore, no matter how small their specialty seems to be, each pony is equal no matter what race they are because each one has something special that makes them significant in life. To put this into the current topic’s context, to say that alicorns are more op than earth ponies or vice versa is an inadequate comparison in terms of significance in life. It’s stupid when you think about it – it is like saying whoever casts spells is higher than whoever makes desserts and foods with their bare hooves. It is ok to have opinions, like saying casting spells and saving the world is way cooler than simply working on the farm. However, when you say saving the world and casting spells means that certain being/race is higher and more significant than any other then you are going too far; moreover, that seems like speciesism (or racism), and we all know that isn’t a tolerable practice in the United States at least, and it really shouldn’t be allowed anywhere else.

There is something else one must consider about ponies. Each pony has the potential to do other things outside of his/her special abilities. For example, the mane six each have special abilities, yet they take time off to help others (like founding and then teaching in the School of Friendship). Clearly, ponies are not limited to their special talent and they can contribute in many other ways, adding to their significance in life.

On ‎6‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 3:36 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

With the episode "Horse Play", we learn that ponies have words like "antidisestablishmentarianism", which would mean that they believe in a higher power of divine origin (not the royal sisters). What if earth ponies were more easily able to access such power,  that the other races could not? What if, due to them being earth ponies (and a divine power having created the earth for organic life forms), the residual power of the divine's creation is drawn in from the earth, and able to be utilized by only earth ponies?

This would explain why Pinkie can break the 4th wall and have such easy access and sight into other dimensions. This would explain why Treehugger mentions chakras and past lives, as both are gateways to the divine- spiritual energy.  

Your examples are ok, but they don’t suffice when it comes to what race is superior if any. I could simply say that Pinkie’s fourth wall break does not equal superiority for earth ponies with Luna doing her otherworldly wall breaks every night simply by entering the dream realm and that she can assess/alter whatever dreams she wishes. I do see your point though, that earth ponies could be more than we think they are, but it is an unnecessary point because one shouldn’t need someone else to convince them that earth ponies are superior when all one has to do is look at earth ponies’ significance in life to see the answer. Pinkie Pie always gives everypony a smile each day to make them happy, the best antidote for sadness and even depression. Earth ponies are constantly working to make foods (apple farms), help the animals, and other various talents that help the earth. Alicorns protect Equestria and, like the royal sisters, uphold it politically; thus, providing a sense of security, organization, and peace throughout the minds of its citizens. I don’t see any reason why one would assume any race/individual is more superior than the others.

Well, I hope I didn’t digress or ramble too much because this is a rather large comment.

Edited July 31, 2018 by EpicEnergy
a few sentences reworded for better clarification